Paul Ryan pitches the Ron Paul vote

[Brett85]

Does it matter that four justices voted the right way? Nope. Obamacare got passed.

You're under this illusion that these other justices wouldn't have voted for it if their vote had mattered. If Roberts hadn't taken one for the team, I assure you someone else would have. They vote against it only to maintain appearances.

The Supreme Court is as much of a scam and theater as the other two branches of Congress.

That simply isn't true at all. There were reports that Kennedy lobbied Roberts hard for over two months, trying to convince him to join the conservatives and strike down Obamacare in it's entirety. Had Roberts joined the other four conservatives, the entire law would've been struck down.

 

[TheTexan]

That simply isn't true at all. There were reports that Kennedy lobbied Roberts hard for over two months

Edit; misread your post. However, the flip side of that coin isn't much better. All this means is that Kennedy wasn't as "persuasive" as the other men pulling his strings.

Unless you want to tell me that Chief Roberts is truly a principled man, an unmovable object, and his principles aligned with passing Obamacare. Because depending on how you look at it, that's even worse. There's nothing more dangerous than a principled socialist. And Bush gave him the seat.

 

[Okie RP fan]

Paul Ryan is supposed to be the libertarian prince charming, right? After all, he was a big Ayn Rand fan and student, right?

What a crock of nonsense. I don't know what the media was trying to pull when they played those cards after he was announced.

And, it appears he didn't answer the question, instead, he had to resort to a personal attack on Ron Paul (essentially is what it was).

 

[Badger Paul]

"On an issue where Ron has been particularly explicit, the Federal Reserve is yet again trying to bail out the fact that Obama, President Obama has failed on fiscal policy," Ryan said. "All of this money printing, which is coming from the Federal Reserve, risks debasing our currency. It risks undermining the value of our dollar, it risks increasing prices on things like food and gas. And among the things that the government can do to harm its people, one of the worst things is to debase its currency. "


Bully! Now all you need to do is fire your foreign policy staff, promise you won't bomb Iran, won't appoint Bolton or Lieberman as Secretary of State or Defense or NSA and denounce the neocons, then we can talk about support.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Who you vote for is really very irrelevant. It makes no difference.

That said, I would hope no Ron Paul supporter would support someone who laughed at, belittled, lied about, and cheated Ron Paul. I would think that would also rule out voting for them. But again, voting doesn't really matter.

 

[opinionatedfool]

Actually, Paul Ryan, I wouldn't mind if Obama win over Romney this time around. They are really the same, but I don't want romney botching it for Rand Paul in 16.

 

[TheTexan]

I don't want Mitt Romney to win because I'm fairly sure he's a socialist

 

[Tudo]

Hey paul you sleazy lowlife, I would support OBAMA before I gave you 60 seconds of support. I'd support you falling down a flight of stairs along with your boss. For what you people did to Dr Paul?

Ha, you can forget it.

 

[Tudo]

Who you vote for is really very irrelevant. It makes no difference.

That said, I would hope no Ron Paul supporter would support someone who laughed at, belittled, lied about, and cheated Ron Paul. I would think that would also rule out voting for them. But again, voting doesn't really matter.

Yup, what he said.

All the more reason to REJECT the regime in all ways

 

[Bruno]

NH is gonna be close.

Those of you who were here will recall the "Northern Pass" ads I bought last year.

Behold the new (with much thanks to many members here and at RevBox for the tweaking of this image) ad campaign.

I'm going to start setting this up when I get home to run in the same papers that the Northern Pass ads ran in.

+ rep, count me in on the donations!

 

[lakefx]

When it comes to the lesser of Evils, I find the case difficult or impossible to Romney > Obama. I'd rather see the evil i know than the evil I can fail to imagine.

Ryan has it wrong. We'd rather have 4 more years of Obama's foreign policy and economic doldrums, than 4 years experimenting with a big government, super-rich chicken-hawk neocon.

Rand Paul 2016

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

I'm happy I live in a swing state.

Denying Romney your vote must feel that much sweeter

 

[papitosabe]

"On an issue where Ron has been particularly explicit, the Federal Reserve is yet again trying to bail out the fact that Obama, President Obama has failed on fiscal policy," Ryan said. "All of this money printing, which is coming from the Federal Reserve, risks debasing our currency. It risks undermining the value of our dollar, it risks increasing prices on things like food and gas. And among the things that the government can do to harm its people, one of the worst things is to debase its currency. "

uhhhh.... He does realize he's running as Mitt "the TARP bailouts were necessary" Romney, right?

 

[WesSeid]

I might differ from some here, I don't dislike Paul Ryan. I think I have more views in common with him than differing. If he was at the top of the ticket and had a real chance to beat Obama, I could vote for him. But he's not and I don't think his running mate is the best choice on my ballot. I'll stick with Johnson.

Paul Ryan is what is wrong with the Republican Party. He's a big-government, fake-conservative neocon who pretends he's not a big-government, fake-conservative neocon.

At that rally, I would have asked him how a person supposedly for limited government needs 28 years to balance a budget.

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

Hey paul you sleazy lowlife, I would support OBAMA before I gave you 60 seconds of support. I'd support you falling down a flight of stairs along with your boss. For what you people did to Dr Paul?

Ha, you can forget it.

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Hey paul you sleazy lowlife, I would support OBAMA before I gave you 60 seconds of support. I'd support you falling down a flight of stairs along with your boss. For what you people did to Dr Paul?

Ha, you can forget it.

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Hey paul you sleazy lowlife, I would support OBAMA before I gave you 60 seconds of support. I'd support you falling down a flight of stairs along with your boss. For what you people did to Dr Paul?

Ha, you can forget it.

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Hey paul you sleazy lowlife, I would support OBAMA before I gave you 60 seconds of support. I'd support you falling down a flight of stairs along with your boss. For what you people did to Dr Paul?

Ha, you can forget it.

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+rep.


For truthiness.

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

Oh, I forgot to mention...

Hey paul you sleazy lowlife, I would support OBAMA before I gave you 60 seconds of support. I'd support you falling down a flight of stairs along with your boss. For what you people did to Dr Paul?

Ha, you can forget it.

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Go f**k yourselves, you, Mitt Romney, and you, Paul Ryan, singularly or as a duo, with a 42" retractable baton of the same design Tonya Harding used on Nancy Kerrigan. Repeatedly, with gusto and enthusiasm.

Tell you what: humor my request, film the act, and put it on the internet. I gladly offer as much as the princely sum of $0.17 for the privilege to view it. I'll give you a nickel more if either of you are donning a football helmet or are wearing funny oversize Mickey Mouse gloves while performing the act.

Of course, I will immediately rip the video and up it to TPB, but hey - you want my vote? That's how you get it.

We already know you've f**ked the nation by denying it even the chance to vote for freedom, for liberty, and sanity in the candidacy of Ron Paul. I think my request is only fair.

 

[coffeewithgames]

You know, Paul Ryan has had his chance to provide a balanced budget. The best he could do was what? 30 YEARS?! I mean, maybe he has changed it since then....

Romney gave us ObamaCare, and ObamaCare isn't going away because of the Supreme Court ruling. We should vote against Romney, just because of ObamaCare if we are "conservatives"...not to mention Romney has no consistent record to run on, other than inconsistency in his political positions.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Well, the thing is that I'm just giving my honest opinion. I'm not going to change the way I view things in order to get praise from people here. My view is basically that Obama and Romney are equally bad on foreign policy issues, but Romney is an improvement over Obama on domestic issues. Like I said, I'm still planning on voting 3rd party, but I'll still feel sick on election night if Obama wins.

I wouldn't expect you too.

But you could change the way you view things based on a factual reality.

That reality is many people right on this forum, committed to voting for McCain in 2008 for the same reasons you are saying that Romney is an improvement over Obama on domestic issues.

People thought it would be the end of the Republic and doom forever.

It wasn't and won't be this time. The country will wag on until TPTB pull the plug, like I stated before.

Tinkering around the edges over SCROTUS appointments and minor turns of phrase is just so much re-arranging of deck chairs on the Titanic.

I have a very personal reason for wishing a Romney defeat, but that aside, people here should be encouraging it simply as a smart political move.

2016 looms quickly and word around the campfire is that Hillary is going to run.

After another fours years of Obama, with a liberty candidate that has us behind him, that is a win.

 

[donnay]

Paul Ryan: ‘Do you want Barack Obama to be re-elected? Then don’t vote for Ron Paul.’

Paul Ryan: ‘Do you want Barack Obama to be re-elected? Then don’t vote for Ron Paul.’

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...cted-then-don-212347213--politics.html?_esi=1

Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan made a pitch to Ron Paul supporters during a rally in Lima, Ohio, on Monday when asked why libertarians should support the Romney-Ryan ticket.

"For those of us who would have voted in the primaries for, say, Ron Paul, why should we vote for you and not, say, libertarians or Vermin Supreme and the Pony Party or something like that?" a man from the audience asked during the question and answer session.

"Do you want Barack Obama to be re-elected?" Ryan asked. "Then don't vote for Ron Paul."

 

[fr33]

uhhhh.... He does realize he's running as Mitt "the TARP bailouts were necessary" Romney, right?

And the Mitt, "Ben Bernanke is doing a fine job" Romney.