Official Vice Presidential debate thread - October 4, 2016

[timosman]

The best part was the message from our corporate sponsors by the Electoral Commission representatives about 15 minutes before the debate on NBC stream.

 

[William Tell]

If only Bill Weld was on the stage so everyone would know they have 3 flavors of poisoned ice cream to choose from.

 

[misterx]

I didn't imply anything of the sort. Quit projecting your Trump fever onto my posts.

(mod edit) How was I projecting Trump fever onto your posts? I was accusing of you saying it's ok to attack Trump, but not ok to attack Kaine for the same behavior.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I didn't imply anything of the sort. Quit projecting your Trump fever onto my posts.

It's like they are all playing from the same book of stupid. If actual reality does not fit the narrative, then just claim that you implied whatever bullshit they need to fill out their narrative and keep on pressing. They don't GAF if they have to lie about what you and I believe in order to extend their narrative, they would just as soon dump us down an outhouse hole as look at us if we won't worship their pet despot. This is precisely the kinds of behavior I was talking about back in July-October of 2015 when I kept saying that the T-Rump Retrovirus is an infectious disease that destroys the faculties of reason. You can 1000% prove him dead wrong about your position and he's going to keep pretending like you are a fracking Hillary supporter. Because such concepts of truth, integrity, and honesty means exactly jack and shyt to these people.

 

[William Tell]

Weld loves entangling alliances.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Are you high? How was I projecting Trump fever onto your posts? I was accusing of you saying it's ok to attack Trump, but not ok to attack Kaine for the same behavior.

Your accusation is the direct result of Trump Fever. No rational or sane person would have accused Originalist of such crap.

 

[misterx]

Your accusation is the direct result of Trump Fever. No rational or sane person would have accused Originalist of such crap.

Then what he mean with the eye roll? Thanks for the profanity laced rep by the way. How very mature of you.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Then what he mean with the eye roll?

He meant y'all were being hypocrites. Because y'all are being hypocrites.

ETA: And yes, you damn well did lie. You accused Originalist of opposing Pence while defending Kaine. That's a bald-faced lie and you damn well know it.

 

[misterx]

He meant y'all were being hypocrites. Because y'all are being hypocrites.

I can't speak for every Trump supporter, but I am not being a hypocrite at all. I said Trump lost the first debate because he kept interrupting, and was easily provoked. I said the same thing about Tim Kaine tonight. I am consistent, you folks are not.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I can't speak for every Trump supporter, but I am not being a hypocrite at all.

Bullshit. If you weren't being a hypocrite then you would not have accused Originalist of defending Kaine.

I said Trump lost the first debate because he kept interrupting, and was easily provoked. I said the same thing about Tim Kaine tonight. I am consistent, you folks are not.

You are about as consistent as the mud you keep slinging at everyone who refuses to worship your pet despot.

 

[misterx]

Bull$#@!. If you weren't being a hypocrite then you would not have accused Originalist of defending Kaine.



You are about as consistent as the mud you keep slinging at everyone who refuses to worship your pet despot.

It's not hypocritical to accuse someone of doing something that they seemingly did.

How is my position inconsistent? Simply saying it is not consistent does not make it so.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

It's not hypocritical to accuse someone of doing something that they seemingly did.

He only "seemingly" did so from somewhere deep within the Trump-addled recesses of your fevered brain. You don't get to just make bullshit up and then claim your bullshit is reasonable.

How is my position inconsistent? Simply saying it is not consistent does not make it so.

You just make shyt up and sling it at people because they won't worship your pet despot. There is nothing consistent about that, unless you want to say that you consistently make shyt up and sling it at people?

 

[Keith and stuff]

Pence won the debate by a mile. He is clearly the least bad of the 3 known VP candidates. Kaine is the worst.

 

[misterx]

He only "seemingly" did so from somewhere deep within the Trump-addled recesses of your fevered brain. You don't get to just make bull$#@! up and then claim your bull$#@! is reasonable.



You just make shyt up and sling it at people because they won't worship your pet despot. There is nothing consistent about that, unless you want to say that you consistently make shyt up and sling it at people?

I'm ignoring your crazy rants. You sound like an unhinged twelve year old. Please don't kill yourself when Trump wins.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I'm ignoring your crazy rants. You sound like an unhinged twelve year old. Please don't kill yourself when Trump wins.

Because calling you out for just making lies up and slinging them at people is "an unhinged twelve year old?"

How about you and your lot just stop lying about people, and then I won't have to keep calling you lot out? Or is that just too much to ask?

And what makes you think I see any difference whatever between Trump winning, Clinton winning, or Johnson winning? Are you trying to imply that I am a Hillaryshill simply because I won't worship your pet despot?

 

[Influenza]

Discussing Syrian refugees: Kaine claims it is unconstitutional to deny entrance to people based on blah, blah, blah. I wonder how he would explain the fact that no Syrian Christians are included in this refugee program, even though they are the ones under threat?

They are under threat, along with millions of other Syrians that were displaced internally and externally.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Pence won the debate by a mile. He is clearly the least bad of the 3 known VP candidates. Kaine is the worst.

I didn't watch debate today but even if Pence won the debate, one can't understimate Kaine's ground game for Nov polls. He seems to be far more popular among minorities, gays, african-americans, jews, muslims, neocons etc. There are only so many straight christian voters in swinging states.

Kaine 'ready to become president' if necessary, says former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland

 

[Peace&Freedom]

My impression of Tim Kaine, from tonight's debate:

As for Kaine and Pence's debate demeanor, vis a vis Hillary and Trump's demeanor, it should be noted that Trump was authentic and natural in appearing "unpolished" or straightforward, AND Pence was authentic and natural in appearing "polished" or poised, like they were real, approachable human beings being their individual selves. Whereas Hillary was plastic and programmed in her "polished" appearance, and Kaine was plastic and programmed in his "unpolished" or unhinged spit-out of campaign talking points.

Even Kaine's former campaign advisor thought Kaine looked unnatural and fake compared to the guy he used to know, or had gone through a "Hillary team" makeover, and had been turned into a sound bite machine. The relevant demarcation between the two tickets is not over being prepared versus unprepared, but one side being more real, versus the other side being more plastic. So Trump supporters are being consistent in their perceptions, despite the weak attempt of the Trump bashers to paint things otherwise.

 

[CPUd]

wow

 

[CaptUSA]

Oh boy, oh boy.... Can't wait for Presidential debate #2, the Return of the Sith!!! It's gunna b awesome!!!!

(seriously, folks. Admittedly, I didn't watch the entire moronic debate, but I hope everyone, at least in these noble forums, understands that the post-debate coverage is all about keeping up the ratings. It has nothing - zero, nil, nada - to do with policy proposals. It's hype. Ebb and flow drama. You can expect Trump to "win" the next debate. All leading up to the finale!!! All - this season - on American Presidential Idol!!)