**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

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Human Beings with emotions have biases. Some studies report that even BABIES consistently gravitate to lovelier faces.

WIVES/MOTHERS consistently vote against the better interests of All Women, vis-a-vis bias in favor of FAMILIES.

Racism is not new in America. Injustice is not news in America.

Unless someone MAKES it News.

GATEKEEPERS make news. VIP's make news. SCANDAL makes news (but not Corzine too much, considering the number of DISAPPEARED dollars). GRUESOMENESS, a bonus. Which is a "natural" segue to DISASTERS making news.

SQUEAKY WHEELS with Lobbyists/PR/Pros very often make news. Squeaky Wheels with CHUTZPAH sometimes claw their way front stage and center...Cindy Sheehan...brief flashes in an unjust pan.

But not Ron Paul.

Still.

Whassup?

Stay the course?

 

[BlackTerrel]

OF COURSE you wouldn't be BLATANTLY biased-toward-Black on Ron Paul Forums.

So let me get this straight:

1. I'm biased in favor of blacks.

2. Except for when I'm biased in favor of whites like in the Epic Beard Man thread from 2010.

3. But #2 is just a trick to hide my bias.

Look this is why I hate debating conspiracy theorists. Any evidence that goes against your line of thinking is part of the cover up. You're basically arguing that my lack of bias is proof of being biased. How can I argue that?

You CONSISTENTLY lean/slant/FEEL in favor of Black.

No I don't. I just posted a thread from 2010 where I defended a white guy who beat up a black guy and I called the black guy an "ignorant piece of shit". Oops I forgot - that is part of the cover up.

If you aren't in Obama's camp outright, operating SUBTLY (he IS known to have trumped Establishment in Social Media), you "naturally" quasi-apologize for him because that would be CONSISTENT with being biased in favor of Blacks.

Trumped establishment in social media... I don't even know what that means.

I am a SPADE CALLER from way back, with SPADE having ZERO reference to Blacks. I have been calling a spade a spade since Negroes were still sometimes "accidentally" called ******s.

Ok thanks for clarifying.

Let us be windex-clear that I wouldn't say ANY of this, but for my belief that DOOM-ISH-NESS impends.

Now. You can say I am in Romney/Johnson/Whoever's camp, and I will say it is not true.

Then I could waste a buncha Time = Scarcest Resource looking for a several-year-old thread, or cut to the chase.

You're jumping all over the place and are striking me as a bit unbalanced

I have been "on" to YOU since you feigned WHADDYA MEAN, when I posed the question: WHY DID ROD BLAGOJEVICH'S APPROVAL RATINGS REMAIN OVER 40%, LONG AFTER IT WAS IN THE CRAPPER WITH OTHER VOTERS?

Oh haha I remember you now. You were telling me that blacks were racist because Blagojevich (white guy) had higher approval ratings among black people than white people. Your logic made as much sense then as it does now.

 

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Oh haha I remember you now. You were telling me that blacks were racist because Blagojevich (white guy) had higher approval ratings among black people than white people. Your logic made as much sense then as it does now.

More like, you were FEIGNING IGNORANCE about savvy (Black AND White) Politicians systematically BUYING BLACK VOTES WITH HERE-YA-GO BENEFITS.

Obama ALSO feigned ignorance . . . said he had NO IDEA that Blagojevich was swashbuckling.

I called BULLSHIT on that. You said it was PLAUSIBLE, 'cuz Obama held national rather than state office.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Never should have continued following him after he was told he wasn't needed.

/CaptainHindsightAway

 

[newbitech]

Never should have continued following him after he was told he wasn't needed.

/CaptainHindsightAway

why call the cops in the first place/?

 

[RonPaulMall]

Never should have continued following him after he was told he wasn't needed.

/CaptainHindsightAway

That's second guessing though. What if Trayvon had gone behind those condos, slipped in to an unlocked door, and raped a woman. Then the same people would be criticizing him for staying in the car like a coward.

 

[jmdrake]

Get the riot gear ready ... Zimmerman is gonna walk.

Quite likely because he was overcharged. Stupid mistake by the prosecutor? Prosecutor giving into demands of the ignorant masses? Or strategic move by the prison industrial complex to protect one of their own? Who knows.

Why was he even arrested, on what grounds, other than to appease the outraged masses

Ummmm....you do realize that he was arrested the night of the shooting before there was any publicity and then released after the DA got involved right? I'm sure a phone call from his daddy who's a retired judge from Virginia had nothing to do with it. I'm sure if you killed someone and the lead investigator wanted to charge you that the DA would get up from his bed in the middle of the night and contact the police chief and come to your rescue. /sarcasm.

 

[jmdrake]

That's second guessing though. What if Trayvon had gone behind those condos, slipped in to an unlocked door, and raped a woman. Then the same people would be criticizing him for staying in the car like a coward.

Or more likely if the 13 y/o witness who was going to go over to the fight but didn't because his dog got off the lease had gone over there and gotten shot by a stray bullet you would then finally realize just how stupid Zimmerman's actions were.

 

[puppetmaster]

Or more likely if the 13 y/o witness who was going to go over to the fight but didn't because his dog got off the lease had gone over there and gotten shot by a stray bullet you would then finally realize just how stupid Zimmerman's actions were.

stupid yes, criminal....?we will see how it plays out.

If stupid was a crime in this country 300 million people would be in prison.

 

[matt0611]

stupid yes, criminal....?we will see how it plays out.

If stupid was a crime in this country 300 million people would be in prison.

Exactly, many people in this thread keep equating stupid/unwise == criminal.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

If this happened to one of your kids would you be patting GZ on the back for a job well done defending himself? No.

 

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Exactly, many people in this thread keep equating stupid/unwise == criminal.

I wouldn't have bumped the thread but . . .

Tom Cruise as Lt. Daniel Kaffee, A FEW GOOD MEN: "My client's a moron, that's not against the law."

Masterminds & Mainstream Media can CONCOCT a sensation, but the Audience has to play along for it to actually WORK.

 

[jmdrake]

stupid yes, criminal....?we will see how it plays out.

If stupid was a crime in this country 300 million people would be in prison.

There are a lot of people in prison who haven't committed a crime but were just stupid. Furthermore most tort lawsuits are for people doing stupid things that aren't criminal.

Exactly, many people in this thread keep equating stupid/unwise == criminal.

So? I haven't equated stupid with criminal. What Zimmerman did was possibly criminal. It depends on exactly what happened before, during and after the fight. The evidence is inconclusive. Typically in this situations we have a preliminary hearing and possibly a trial. The lead investigator thought there was something criminal and that's why Zimmerman was arrested. Many people in this thread keep equating possible reasonable doubt == innocent.

The specific point I've been making about GZ being stupid is to deflect the idea that what he did was somehow the right thing to do. It wasn't.

 

[RonPaulMall]

Or more likely if the 13 y/o witness who was going to go over to the fight but didn't because his dog got off the lease had gone over there and gotten shot by a stray bullet you would then finally realize just how stupid Zimmerman's actions were.

If a 13 year old kid got shot because Trayvon Martin attacked an armed man, that would be on Trayvon Martin, not Zimmerman. Zimmerman risked his life trying to protect his neighborhood. Trayvon likely lost his while trying to prove how "thug" he was. In terms of relative stupidity, Trayvon has this thing one by a mile.

 

[jmdrake]

If a 13 year old kid got shot because Trayvon Martin attacked an armed man, that would be on Trayvon Martin, not Zimmerman. Zimmerman risked his life trying to protect his neighborhood. Trayvon likely lost his while trying to prove how "thug" he was. In terms of relative stupidity, Trayvon has this thing one by a mile.

Any reasonable jury would find Zimmerman negligent for the 13 y/o death in such a scenario. Just because Zimmerman may have had pure motives does not excuse him from needlessly creating a dangerous situation. That's why you can get sued for a "rescue" that ends up paralyzing someone. I agree with you that Trayvon was stupid. He should have been packing.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

If a 13 year old kid got shot because Trayvon Martin attacked an armed man, that would be on Trayvon Martin, not Zimmerman. Zimmerman risked his life trying to protect his neighborhood. Trayvon likely lost his while trying to prove how "thug" he was. In terms of relative stupidity, Trayvon has this thing one by a mile.

In terms of relative stupidity you have this thing WON by a mile.

 

[azxd]

Quite likely because he was overcharged. Stupid mistake by the prosecutor? Prosecutor giving into demands of the ignorant masses? Or strategic move by the prison industrial complex to protect one of their own? Who knows.

YEP, and I doubt the masses will be satisfied until they have blood on their hands

 

[azxd]

If stupid was a crime in this country 300 million people would be in prison.

Nominated for the most accurate statement I have read this month

 

[azxd]

Exactly, many people in this thread keep equating stupid/unwise == criminal.

Rack it up to exposed emotional bias ... I do.

Jumping to conclusions before knowing the facts of the case, is one method of exposure ... The other is more subtle, but the bias can be discerned.

 

[azxd]

If this happened to one of your kids would you be patting GZ on the back for a job well done defending himself? No.

Are you somehow taking this story a bit personal ?