**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

[azxd]

Is nobody else pissed that Zimmerman acted so horribly in this situation and now democrats want to repeal the law that allows you to defend yourself? Because I am.

NOPE !!!
And what some politician wants to do, doesn't make for an automatic action.

Heller V DC is another example for you ... Local politicians didn't want people to be able to defend themselves ... The court saw things differently.

 

[azxd]

Is nobody else pissed that Zimmerman acted so horribly in this situation and now democrats want to repeal the law that allows you to defend yourself? Because I am.

They'll use any excuse to repeal any rights we have left. If it wasn't this it would be something else. This country is on a one way street towards tyranny, with or without Zimmerman.

He's under the assumption that GZ is going to be found guilty, and then politicians will use this to revoke a law.

The case could also have the effect of solidifying the stand your ground law.

Time will tell !!

 

[azxd]

My point in bringing that up.

SYG and CD laws are being vilified in the hoplophobic and anti self defense government media as part of this circus, when they did not apply at all, as far as I can see.

+ REP

It's my understanding that these laws remove civil retaliation potential, and I agree completely that these laws are being vilified unjustly.

 

[azxd]

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George Zimmerman gets MUCH more Press than Ron Paul. Shocker.

Vote Fraud is not in "The News" AT. ALL.

 

[azxd]

Can I ask you guys...........why do you care so much about this bullshit case? Young black dudes get killed everyday by other black dudes or cops.

Killing some morning time, but ...

 

[matt0611]

Can I ask you guys...........why do you care so much about this bullshit case? Young black dudes get killed everyday by other black dudes or cops.

That's a good question for the media and the masses. (the reason its a big deal to the media and to the masses is so they can rev up racial animosity and use it for their agenda (anti-gun laws, "hate" crime laws, etc)).

I'm only paying attention to it because the media, the progressives, al sharpton et al have turned it into a circus for their own gains.

Its pretty sickening actually and even more sickening that some in this forum are buying it hook line and sinker.

 

[cheapseats]

That's a good question for the media and the masses. (the reason its a big deal to the media and to the masses is so they can rev up racial animosity and use it for their agenda (anti-gun laws, "hate" crime laws, etc)).

There's nuthin' wrong with bein' Conservative, there's nuthin' wrong with bein' Moderate . . . if yer Libertarian.

Nuthin' sends Moderates back to the Democratic fold like ANTI ABORTION HYSTERIA and a small number of unusually well-armed men waxing extreme about WE'LL HAVE WHAT THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES ARE HAVING . . . AND YOU CAN GRAB THIS FIREPOWER WHEN YOU CAN PRY IT FROM OUR COLD DEAD HANDS.

I'm only paying attention to it because the media, the progressives, al sharpton et al have turned it into a circus for their own gains.

THE GAME.

Observe that the other (flip) "Side" (of the coin) ain't exactly HAVING IT OUT, once and for all, on this selective hurling of the RACE CARD into election politics.

Observe that this OBVIOUSLY HAND-PICKED DRAMA occupies a LOT of "The News". This case features NOWHERE amid Market News.

Howzabout #HaleyBarbour's PARDONS?

Its pretty sickening actually and even more sickening that some in this forum are buying it hook line and sinker.

"All" we need to do to get LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALL into the Corner Office ('cuz it ultimately makes the most economic AND social AND moral sense) is to "EDUCATE THE SHEEPLE" to untether themselves from #MainstreamMedia smoke-and-mirror-rile-the-fringes-get-the-Audience-rubbernecking BULLSHIT, and keep their eyes on the PRIZE = PRINCIPLES.

Whaddya think of our chances of pulling that off between now and November?

How d'ya like the odds on pulling it off AMONG REPUBLICANS, BEFORE AUGUST?

 

[BlackTerrel]

That's a good question for the media and the masses. (the reason its a big deal to the media and to the masses is so they can rev up racial animosity and use it for their agenda (anti-gun laws, "hate" crime laws, etc)).

I'm only paying attention to it because the media, the progressives, al sharpton et al have turned it into a circus for their own gains.

Its pretty sickening actually and even more sickening that some in this forum are buying it hook line and sinker.

It's a big deal because the killer WAS KNOWN and obvious yet the police didn't even bother to charge him with anything. That is why the case is unique and why people are discussing it.

If people never brought it up the murderer would have never been charged and would still be doing the same thing he always has. I'm glad it received the attention that it did.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Why did the media lie about what Zimmerman told the 9/11 operator making it appear he was racist?

It was one media and it was quickly exposed as a lie by other media.

The facts of the case as they are now are enough to convict the murderer. They for damn sure should have been enough to at least charge him with a crime but they weren't. The exposure is the only thing that will bring justice to this case so it can't be swept under the rug.

 

[BlackTerrel]

It is amazing how everyone thinks they know what happened when they didn't see it happen and have to rely on witnesses that also did not see it very well. Unless they can tell by voice analysis software who it was screaming for help, we may never know if it was Zimmerman or Trayvon yelling for help. Most people yelling for Zimmerman's head think this is a racial crime while Zimmerman's past has shown no racism at all, actually it has shown him to be a friend to many blacks.

Because it DOESN'T MATTER who was crying for help.

Why was there a confrontation at all? Only because Zimmerman thought a kid with skittles was a menace and decided to chase him down. Then there was an altercation and Zimmerman brought a gun to a fist fight.

Have you never been in a fist fight in your life? Introducing a gun into the mix is what made it murder. Otherwise they both would have walked away with a couple bruises and no one would have cared.

 

[matt0611]

It's a big deal because the killer WAS KNOWN and obvious yet the police didn't even bother to charge him with anything. That is why the case is unique and why people are discussing it.

If people never brought it up the murderer would have never been charged and would still be doing the same thing he always has. I'm glad it received the attention that it did.

You have to be quite naive to believe "justice" is the only agenda here. That has been shown to be quite clear IMO.

 

[Cowlesy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Trials

 

[cheapseats]

...a kid with skittles...

As opposed to A KID WITH A GRILL. Either your Racial Bias or your Bleeding Heart is showing.

YOUNG. BLACK. DUDES. GETTING. SHOT. DEAD. ARE. THIRTEEN. TO. THE. DOZEN. As you know.

 

[BlackTerrel]

You have to be quite naive to believe "justice" is the only agenda here. That has been shown to be quite clear IMO.

Justice sure as hell wasn't being received before the case was covered.

As opposed to A KID WITH A GRILL. Either your Racial Bias or your Bleeding Heart is showing.

YOUNG. BLACK. DUDES. GETTING. SHOT. DEAD. ARE. THIRTEEN. TO. THE. DOZEN. As you know.

What are you arguing?

 

[cheapseats]

What are you arguing?

Some people's bias sustainedly runs AGAINST Blacks. YOUR bias sustainedly runs in FAVOR of Blacks. (I have already told you/Board that I BELIEVE you are an Obama Apologist.)

Zimmerman is agenda-based DIVERSION.

 

[Anti Federalist]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Trials

This.

While I have maintained all along, and continue to maintain that, legally, GZ was on shaky legal ground to claim self defense, this circus of a prosecution, with government owned media outlets deliberately distorting crucial evidence, and the prosecutor "praying" with the victim's family, and grossly overcharging, will not facilitate justice at all.

It's a lynching.

 

[cheapseats]

It's a lynching.

Not for nuthin' were Public Hangings PUBLIC.

In the TOWN SQUARE, no less. The better to hold a CROWD . . . and Street Vendors.

Don't do what HE did . . . or THIS could happen to YOU.

Do NOT protect your 'hoods. Leave that to Professional Gunslingers.

But if you SEE something, by all means, SAY something...and don't be discouraged if you get a RECORDING when you dial 911 in some areas. That means The Professionals are even MORE on the job.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not for nuthin' were Public Hangings PUBLIC.

In the TOWN SQUARE, no less. The better to hold a CROWD . . . and Street Vendors.

Don't do what HE did . . . or THIS could happen to YOU.

Public shaming.

Maybe thirty days of this would be better punishment than 30 years closed away in prison that nobody will see.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Some people's bias sustainedly runs AGAINST Blacks. YOUR bias sustainedly runs in FAVOR of Blacks.

Not true and I have condemned black individuals more than once on this forum.

Here is me in 2010 supporting "Epic Beard Man" the white guy who beat the crap out of a black "ignorant piece of shit".

The black dude was clearly all talk and had never been in a fight in his life. Notice how he holds the pole with one hand the whole time rather than raise his fists to defend himself. Stupid move.

Best part is even after he got his ass beat he was still talking trash. Shut the fuck up - you just got your ass beat, call amber lamps and take care of yourself and stop instigating fights you ignorant piece of shit!

I'm consistent.

(I have already told you/Board that I BELIEVE you are an Obama Apologist.)

It's great that you already told people this but again it is not true.

 

[cheapseats]

Not true and I have condemned black individuals more than once on this forum.

Here is me in 2010 supporting "Epic Beard Man" the white guy who beat the crap out of a black "ignorant piece of shit".

OF COURSE you wouldn't be BLATANTLY biased-toward-Black on Ron Paul Forums.

Too, there is the abiding component of SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS/DEEDS ARE [whoever/whatever I am effectively biased AGAINST, by being fundamentally biased in FAVOR of someone/something else].

I'm consistent.

NO ONE BUT NUT CASES AND ROBOTS/AUTOMATONS are 100% consistent, 100% of the time.

You CONSISTENTLY lean/slant/FEEL in favor of Black.

It's great that you already told people this but again it is not true.

What ELSE would you say, about my saying:

(I have already told you/Board that I BELIEVE you are an Obama Apologist.)

If you aren't in Obama's camp outright, operating SUBTLY (he IS known to have trumped Establishment in Social Media), you "naturally" quasi-apologize for him because that would be CONSISTENT with being biased in favor of Blacks.

I am a SPADE CALLER from way back, with SPADE having ZERO reference to Blacks. I have been calling a spade a Spade since Negroes were still sometimes "accidentally" called ******s.

[PeeCee asterisks NOT mine.]

Let us be windex-clear that I wouldn't say ANY of this, but for my belief that DOOM-ISH-NESS impends.

Now. You can say I am in Romney/Johnson/Whoever's camp, and I will say it is not true.

Then I could waste a buncha Time = Scarcest Resource looking for a several-year-old thread, or I could cut to the chase.

I have been "on" to YOU since you feigned WHADDYA MEAN, when I posed the question: WHY DID ROD BLAGOJEVICH'S APPROVAL RATING REMAIN OVER 40% WITH BLACK VOTERS, LONG AFTER IT WAS IN THE CRAPPER WITH OTHER VOTERS?

It was a thread about CHICAGO-STYLE POLITICS coming to Washington DC.