Official Health Care Ruling Thread (Obamacare upheld)

[AlexAmore]

Can you guys tell me if this has an legs to it? I'm in NH and trying to figure out the next step for specifically blocking it here.

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/new-hampshires-democratic-governor-signs-gop-bill-blocking-obamacare-exchange/

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

I'm sorry, but I am not at all surprised. It's how the corporate state rolls.

It's here to stay and (unless the implosion of the UFSA comes first) the GOP will be "saving" Barry's Big Fascist Medical System in 25 years, just like they're "saving" Social Security and Medicare now.

+ REP

This is also a big part of why I'm not that enthusiastic about Rand. He talks about "saving" and "preserving" SS but I've never heard him say repeal/privatize it, or even that it's unconstitutional.

We need to change the debate and just aiming for less of government programs doesn't work.


Repeal
End
Privatize
Self ownership

^^^^these should be our buzzwords. NOT:

Fix
Preserve
Save
Reform

 

[AuH20]

+ REP

This is also a big part of why I'm not that enthusiastic about Rand. He talks about "saving" and "preserving" SS but I've never heard him say repeal/privatize it, or even that it's unconstitutional.

We need to change the debate and just aiming for less of government programs doesn't work.


Repeal
End
Privatize
Self ownership

^^^^these should be our buzzwords. NOT:

Fix
Preserve
Save
Reform

He's saying that to get elected. Even Goldwater retracted his campaign promise to make S.S. voluntary after the media villified him. Rand is playing the game.

 

[matt0611]

Relying on the state to secede ? LOL using the state for more state just gets you...more state.

We need a way for the individual to secede, is there a way ?

State sucedes from union, county secedes from state, city/town secedes from county etc

 

[romancito]

Its only a 1% tax, which isn't too bad for me not making a large income. Would probably end up saving me money.

Is only 1 percent now. The details will unfold and the bill will become as large as if you would have purchased it from day one. Don't you see that doctors will be in control of the hospital in control of the insurance company in control of state and county and city agencies that will be down to your home to exactly quantify what it is that you shall remain in control.

Take for example that you may not be hired for a job if you have showed being irresponsible for not purchasing what you should have. Specially a government job. I personally will disqualify you for any position if you remain non-compliant. And that is me who believes in freedom. Your record of noncompliance will follow you for the rest of your life.

So you may be looking at full employment. 50 percent working in compliance related duties and 50 percent reporting to them.

 

[matt0611]

Its only a 1% tax, which isn't too bad for me not making a large income. Would probably end up saving me money.

LULZ Did you just land on this planet today or something?

 

[Anti Federalist]

As long as you don't make over 75k a year income taxes are nothing. So tell me, do you make 75k every year? How does the income tax affect you?

I'm not going to splash my finances all over a public message forum, but yes, my income gets taxed every year, at a double digit rate.

 

[shane77m]

Now we have a tax for just existing.

I wonder if they will start rounding the homeless and unemployed that don't pay it?

 

[cajuncocoa]

Fifth, the decision totally removes a growing left-wing talking point that suddenly they must vote for Obama because of judges. The Supreme Court as a November issue for the left is gone. For the right? That sound you hear is the marching of libertarians into Camp Romney, with noses held, knowing that the libertarian and conservative coalitions must unite to defeat Obama and Obamacare.

Crap, he really IS delusional.

 

[romancito]

I think this is the end, really. We will have a different way of life from now on. A change. A new kind of society. And I don't think you will be able to eat anymore hot sauce.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Crap, he really IS delusional.

High.

They gotta be high.

That's the only logical explanation.

 

[Pericles]

Hmmm. I wonder what's happening in gun stores around the country? this ruling has to be great for business. Maybe I will purchase another toy as well...

Ammunition is already tight - not going to get any better in the next 6 months, IMO.

 

[ItsTime]

Crap, he really IS delusional.

It's happening. I am seeing it first hand. More people who have said they would never vote for Romney are now thinking about it. People are mad and will do irrational things.

 

[romancito]

Look at it from the bright side. You will be able to enroll in an Associate degree in Individual Healthcare Compliance Officer. Then go for the Bachelor and then the Master's degree in Complicated Compliance Healthcare Performance Deputy. Then of course a whole number of vast courses and degrees will grow for Officers and Administrators of Non-compliant Orders in large numbers of government agencies. And everyone will be looking at their vacations schedules and planning their vacations with month of anticipation.

I love China.

Lets start a training company for 350 dollars for 4 hours on Saturdays, for 2 CPUs.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It's happening. I am seeing it first hand. More people who have said they would never vote for Romney are now thinking about it. People are mad and will do irrational things.

Irrational is right.

"Goddamn Obamacare!! I'll show him, I'm gonna vote for the guy who invented it! Hell yeah!!"

 

[ItsTime]

Irrational is right.

"Goddamn Obamacare!! I'll show him, I'm gonna vote for the guy who invented it! Hell yeah!!"

It is going to swing the election in favor of Romney (if nominated). Too many people in the middle that were sitting on the fence that don't like Obama care and will drink the Romney kool aid.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It is going to swing the election in favor of Romney (if nominated). Too many people in the middle that were sitting on the fence that don't like Obama care and will drink the Romney kool aid.

Probably.

I was trying my damnedest to thwart that, if for no other reason than I live close enough to that asshole's NH home that the Security State descending on my head would make life untenable.

I think it may be time to jet.

This is getting unbearable.

 

[frodus24]

IMO-The only thing that will change the course of the country will be another Revolutionary War. I feel that war is coming to this country and it will not be pretty.

 

[AuH20]

IMO-The only thing that will change the course of the country will be another Revolutionary War. I feel that war is coming to this country and it will not be pretty.

Which entails tearing down our corrupt institutions and imprisoning all the perpetrators. History has shown us that you can't vote tyrants out. You must physically remove them.

 

[VanBummel]

IMO-The only thing that will change the course of the country will be another Revolutionary War. I feel that war is coming to this country and it will not be pretty.

Which entails tearing down our corrupt insitutions and imprisoning all the perpetrators. History has shown us that you can't vote tyrants out. You must physically remove them.

I'd feel much better about this if statists didn't outnumber us so heavily.