Obama's Birth Certificate - Still Missing

[lynnf]

Oh, no! Mr. Bill!

Maybe someone can enlighten me to this: why did neither Clinton nor McCain spend some milions to get rid of obama? I mean, they WOULD have brought this issue up if they thought that obama was really inelegible....

easy -- they just assumed he was eligible like most everyone else. then, too, even if they did suspect, they may have judged that the issue was untouchable within the Democrat party. also, Hillary and Bill are not infallible (hence their flawed and losing campaign strategy) and they may have just missed it.

lynn

 

[Truth Warrior]

if that's your argument, then you've cut yourself off at the knees. back then citizenship went with the father only, and Obama's father was a Kenyan so
by your standard Obama is a Kenyan if he was born in Kenya or the U.S.

lynn

Being born IN the U.S.A. MAKES you a U.S. citizen automatically. Just ask the current crop of pregnant "criminal aliens" from Mexico.

 

[werdd]

It's sad, that no one cares or is paying attention to this. They are ignoring the most precious document we have, the constitution.

When we defy and ignore one of the most basic principles of our nation, the qualifications to be president, we know that they could give a shit about the rest.

Why has the governor of hawaii sealed his supposed certificate? Why does Obama not demand it be released? Why is the media not reporting on this??

"Obama is a christian, and he was born in hawaii, okay get it? Don't ask questions."

Fuck that man, im not buying it anymore.

Don't ask questions about 911, dont ask questions about Waco, don't ask questions about the federal reserve, dont ask questions about the NWO, the NAU, or the NAFTA superhighway. Don't ask why we have a fiat currency, don't wonder how the federal reserve act got passed in 1913, don't remember that we didn't have to pay an income tax at one time, don't wonder how we got fooled into paying it, and don't wonder how the US turned into a welfare state.

If you ask any of these questions, you are batshit insane as labeled by the media, and as yongrel put it "Dumb" because you don't buy the official spoonfed story that our very big goverment biased press wants you to believe.

 

[smithtg]

does anybody know the status of berg's case with the SCOTUS

 

[Truth Warrior]

It's sad, that no one cares or is paying attention to this. They are ignoring the most precious document we have, the constitution.

When we defy and ignore one of the most basic principles of our nation, the qualifications to be president, we know that they could give a shit about the rest.

Why has the governor of hawaii sealed his supposed certificate? Why does Obama not demand it be released? Why is the media not reporting on this??

"Obama is a christian, and he was born in hawaii, okay get it? Don't ask questions."

Fuck that man, im not buying it anymore.

Don't ask questions about 911, dont ask questions about Waco, don't ask questions about the federal reserve, dont ask questions about the NWO, the NAU, or the NAFTA superhighway. Don't ask why we have a fiat currency, don't wonder how the federal reserve act got passed in 1913, don't remember that we didn't have to pay an income tax at one time, don't wonder how we got fooled into paying it, and don't wonder how the US turned into a welfare state.

If you ask any of these questions, you are batshit insane as labeled by the media, and as yongrel put it "Dumb" because you don't buy the official spoonfed story that our very big goverment biased press wants you to believe.

A simple and obvious answer is, [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Federal Constitution Is Dead[/FONT] .

 

[werdd]

A simple and obvious answer is, [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Federal Constitution Is Dead[/FONT] .

good article, we needed a doctor to revive it.

Instead, we got a war hero with no understanding of economics, and a communist messiah, a "constitutional law expert", a beneficiary of exactly what the article talks about.

 

[smithtg]

does anybody know the status of berg's case with the SCOTUS

ok so im replying to my own post

links for all to read

http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd408.htm

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm

 

[nodope0695]

so in digging deeper ...i found this: {emphasis mine in the 1st sentence}

"Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to
the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between
December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the
office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was
not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts John
McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone.

US Law very clearly states: `. . . If only one parent is a U.S.
Citizen at the time of one's birth, that parent must have resided in
the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after
the age of 16.' Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. Citizen is a fact.

Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even
though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii
being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years-
prior-to Barack Obama's birth, but-after-age-16.

In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for
automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother
turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18. His
mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the
time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen.
Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have
needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S.
Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . .
but that would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are
ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack Obama was
sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter
because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a
U.S. Citizen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5
of those years being after age 16.

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some
time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than
living in Indonesia. This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of
U.S. Election law."

to go further & really spell it out:

Thanks for that info...and that is exactly what Phil Berg was explaining in his lawsuit agianst Obama. How the judge could justify dismissal of the case is a travesty...and shows a total lack of balls on his part. What a coward that judge is.

 

[hillertexas]

http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd408.htm

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm

thanks.

also: http://www.obamacrimes.com/

Philip J. Berg Will Be Arriving U.S. Supreme Court, Washington, DC at 3:15 p.m. today to file for an Injunction to Stay Presidential Election Pending Writ of Certiorari regarding Obama who is "NOT" qualified to be President of the United States

(Press Release - 10/30/08 - Contact information and pdf of press release at bottom)



(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/30/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he will
be at the United States Supreme Court today, October 30, 2008 to file:

Application to Justice Souter for an Immediate Injunction to Stay the Presidential Election of November 4, 2008; and
Writ of Certiorari.
Berg stated, “I am hopeful that the U.S. Supreme Court will grant the Injunction pending a review of this case to avoid a Constitutional Crisis by insisting that Obama produce certified documentation that he is or is not a “natural born” citizen and if he cannot produce documentation that Obama be removed from the ballot for President.

Berg’s case, Berg vs. Obama was dismissed from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Docket # 08-cv-4083 for lack of standing. This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution. If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be President of the United States - the Commander-in-Chief, the most powerful person in the world - then who does?

What happened to ‘...Government of the people, by the people, for the people,...’ Abraham Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address 1863.

We must legally prevent Obama, the unqualified candidate, from taking the Office of the Presidency of the United States,” Berg said.

Our website obamacrimes.com now has 86.1 + million hits.

Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.

* * For copies of all Court Pleadings, go to obamacrimes.com

Also here is a good website to check for updates: http://www.americasright.com/

UPDATE, 6:00pm

The rally at the courthouse was attended by about 30 people, Berg said, and coverage of what he called a "news conference" was provided by Fox News and a European news service (the name of which escapes me now). Apparently, the filing may be mentioned on tonight's Fox Report w/ Shepherd Smith, but nothing is confirmed.

Two America's Right readers were there, one of which described the coverage as "sadly thin." The other said it was "nice, but could have been a little bigger."

 

[Truth Warrior]

good article, we needed a doctor to revive it.

Instead, we got a war hero with no understanding of economics, and a communist messiah, a "constitutional law expert", a beneficiary of exactly what the article talks about.

Thanks!

Even the BEST doctors can't raise the dead.

 

[nodope0695]

Thanks!

Even the BEST doctors can't raise the dead.

The only doctor I know who could fix the mess our nation is in is Dr. Ron Paul

 

[Truth Warrior]

The only doctor I know who could fix the mess our nation is in is Dr. Ron Paul

Sorry, that's incorrect.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Being born IN the U.S.A. MAKES you a U.S. citizen automatically. Just ask the current crop of pregnant "criminal aliens" from Mexico.

Ah, Columbia, Guetamala, El Salvador, Venezuela, Chile, Equador, Boliva, Indonesia, Vietnam, Phillipines, China, Korea, Africa...blah blah

The Land of Entitlements... welcomes the WORLD, courtesy of Washington DC slime and the U.S. Taxpayer's money.

 

[phoenixrising]

Thanks for that info...and that is exactly what Phil Berg was explaining in his lawsuit agianst Obama. How the judge could justify dismissal of the case is a travesty...and shows a total lack of balls on his part. What a coward that judge is.

according to a live broadcast on jeff rense w/devvy....berg & vierra are now working together on this to continue proceedings *after* the election as well if needs be.

& as someone said b/4 ...the judges are afraid of blowing this wide open & the "it's not my job" is suppose to save them?? i think not!

also if obama is proven to have committed fraud...gov lingle is on the hook as well (btw: rep neocon gov. all the way --who thinks she doesn't have to obey the law as well)

 

[BeFranklin]

if that's your argument, then you've cut yourself off at the knees. back then citizenship went with the father only, and Obama's father was a Kenyan so
by your standard Obama is a Kenyan if he was born in Kenya or the U.S.

lynn

I'm not cutting myself off at the knees because I'm not arguing for or against Obama. I'm saying you are a fool for mixing types of citizenship, and will do great harm to the freedom movement if you persist out of hate for Obama.

 

[BeFranklin]

Being born IN the U.S.A. MAKES you a U.S. citizen automatically. Just ask the current crop of pregnant "criminal aliens" from Mexico.

Thats 14th amendment citizenship, which doesn't affect the qualification for presidents in Article II. Also, thats a later day mis-interpretation of the 14th amendment, and it wasn't originally meant to allow that. I even posted a quote from Ron Paul on that earlier.

 

[devil21]

Its pretty ironic when an illegal immigrant can step across the border, give birth, and her child is automatically a US citizen, but a guy that actually serves in the Senate and is close to winning the Presidency is questioned about his citizenship. This is such a stupid distraction issue.

Btw, tell McCain to release his medical records if he wants to hit Obama on his birth records. The bullshit of this election is out of hand.

 

[dannno]

Its pretty ironic when an illegal immigrant can step across the border, give birth, and her child is automatically a US citizen, but a guy that actually serves in the Senate and is close to winning the Presidency is questioned about his citizenship. This is such a stupid distraction issue.

Btw, tell McCain to release his medical records if he wants to hit Obama on his birth records. The bullshit of this election is out of hand.

It is pretty ironic that after several threads over 10 pages long, there is still not one shred of proof that Obama wasn't born in Kenya yet you state this.

Btw, McCain said he would release ANY AND ALL records pertaining to his birthplace. Obama is hiding his.

If you REALLY think this isn't a big deal, checkout this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=165696



This could turn into a nightmare.

 

[BeFranklin]

It is pretty ironic that after several threads over 10 pages long, there is still not one shred of proof that Obama wasn't born in Kenya yet you state this.

Btw, McCain said he would release ANY AND ALL records pertaining to his birthplace. Obama is hiding his.

If you REALLY think this isn't a big deal, checkout this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=165696



This could turn into a nightmare.

If Obama was born somewhere else he still would be a citizen, because a natural born citizen is defined by natural law and in common law as your parentage not where you are born. Its ignorance to read the constitution and mis-interpret what natural means in article ii that way.

If you were sucessful in changing the nature of citizenship further along the path of the 14th amendment and statury definition, it would be a pyrric victory, because you'd be giving the government complete control over your life, defining who we the people are instead of the other way around.

 

[dannno]

If Obama was born somewhere else he still would be a citizen, because a natural born citizen is defined by natural law and in common law as your parentage not where you are born. Its ignorance to read the constitution and mis-interpret what natural means in article ii that way.

If you were sucessful in changing the nature of citizenship further along the path of the 14th amendment and statury definition, it would be a pyrric victory, because you'd be giving the government complete control over your life, defining who we the people are instead of the other way around.

The lawsuit being waged is more than just about where he was born. Check the link to the thread I provided in my last post, it is an important thread and contains the details in the non-bolded section.


(here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=165696 )