Obama's Birth Certificate - Still Missing

[Truth Warrior]

If a child is born to two natural born American citizen parents during an airline flight over the ocean, is the child a natural born US citizen, and therefore eligible to run for POTUS?

 

[BeFranklin]

If a child is born to two natural born American citizen parents during an airline flight over the ocean, is the child a natural born US citizen, and therefore eligible to run for POTUS?

According to Statue X on the books during 1959 through 1965 before amended, only if standing on one foot while giving childbirth. The federal government defines who is a citizen and not the other way around don't you know

 

[lynnf]

wrong!

try this for education:

our government has a judicial branch, which interprets the vagueness of constitutional statements.

It threw out the lawsuit long before it reached the supreme court.

I dont need it to explain it to me. I already know he is a citizen, because he was born of an American. Game over.

lawsuit not thrown out, just an adverse ruling -- appeal continues, the suit is alive!

"born of an American" -- you're assuming, so check out this link to the history
of citizenship laws -- it has changed through the years and hasn't always been
"born of an American".

historical summary of citizenship law
http://www.aca.ch/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=38


lynn

 

[Truth Warrior]

According to Statue X on the books during 1959 through 1965 before amended, only if standing on one foot while giving childbirth. The federal government defines who is a citizen and not the other way around don't you know

It could get very interesting to see how some non Clinton appointed judge rules in another of the Obama birthplace lawsuits. Maybe, they'll ALL just now defer to the recently established precedent.

 

[Dianne]

People in eight states have filed law suits challenging his right to be on the ballot.

Don't you think we should get this done in all states? It doesn't cost hardly anything to file a lawsuit.

 

[Truth Warrior]

People in eight states have filed law suits challenging his right to be on the ballot.

Don't you think we should get this done in all states? It doesn't cost hardly anything to file a lawsuit.

That sounds like a real winner of an idea to me.

 

[fedup100]

try this for education:

our government has a judicial branch, which interprets the vagueness of constitutional statements.

It threw out the lawsuit long before it reached the supreme court.

I dont need it to explain it to me. I already know he is a citizen, because he was born of an American. Game over.

Not one of the bastard's parents were american. His communist mother lived outside the us for too many years to even be a legal american citizen and the daddy is obvious, if it is his father at all.

Note the supporters of this bastard on this forum. I am so disgusted at what is left of this poor country that has been destroyed from within on national television. The communist aiders and abetters are thick here and need to be routed out.

We need a serious forum for real freedom loving people that need to discuss the real issues. We don't need the stress of having to wade through the disinformation and depressing rhetoric of the enemy.

I posted about this bastards birth certificate on this forum over 6 months ago when something could have been done but was thrown in the ditch.

This bastard plans on stealing office and then allowing his devote black supporters to tear down your house and kill you and your children to protect his right as a "world citizen" to finish this country off.

We have been told for 50 years that the black race is only about 13% of the population and you have believed it. Crap, they have put these people on welfare and the more they dropped, the more democratic voters they have. There are 30 million blacks in New York, Houston, La and Chicago alone. We have been out breed and lied too. We are the dumbest people on earth I do believe.

Count the number of black faces you see on television in 1 hour and you will be shocked. Without exception now, movie and TV, the leader, the good guy, the top dog, the smartest guy et all to adnausem is always a BLACK. They have brainwashed the silly white fools in this country to vote this dangerous fraud into office and give the safety and security for their asses to this trojan horse. MY GOD!!

96% of the black people in this country will vote for another black even if they knew he would kill every one of them. They have proven this in Afrika time and again. If the white man had not gone into afrika, they would still be in the dark on the dark continent eating each other and still dreaming of how to make a wheel. Oprah's big ass would have been soup a long time ago.


We're in deep shit my friend! For all you PC corrupt crowd, go to hell, you're on the menu too and don't know it.

 

[Slist]

People in eight states...

Right now therere are lawsuits in nine states..

 

[nodope0695]

try this for education:

our government has a judicial branch, which interprets the vagueness of constitutional statements.

It threw out the lawsuit long before it reached the supreme court.

I dont need it to explain it to me. I already know he is a citizen, because he was born of an American. Game over.

How do you know? How do we know he's not? The point here is that if he's not, then the Constitution is usurped, and the voters cheated. All the suit was asking was for him to provide proof of citizenship...that's it. He did not. And, the case was dismissed by the judge at the circuit court level, and is being appealed to the Supreme Court...plus there are 8 other suits in other states as well.

Being born of an American does not automatically make you a citizen. Especially when the American hasn't lived long enough in the U.S. to pass on citizenship. AND, he would be a NATURALIZED citizen, NOT a NATURAL BORN citizen.

FAIL. Join the flock.

 

[nodope0695]

That sounds like a real winner of an idea to me.

Yep, according to Phil Berg's case, I think to was $360 to file his case...

 

[Truth Warrior]

How do you know? How do we know he's not? The point here is that if he's not, then the Constitution is usurped, and the voters cheated. All the suit was asking was for him to provide proof of citizenship...that's it. He did not. And, the case was dismissed by the judge at the circuit court level, and is being appealed to the Supreme Court...plus there are 8 other suits in other states as well.

Being born of an American does not automatically make you a citizen. Especially when the American hasn't lived long enough in the U.S. to pass on citizenship. AND, he would be a NATURALIZED citizen, NOT a NATURAL BORN citizen.

I'm Truth Warrior, and I endorse the preceding message!

 

[nodope0695]

I'm Truth Warrior, and I endorse the preceding message!

I cut out the last paragraph...was a little harsh and felt guilty...I forgive him - he knows not what he does. Besides, you quoted me before I took it out, so its still up...oh well, perhaps he needs to read it.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I cut out the last paragraph...was a little harsh and felt guilty...I forgive him - he knows not what he does. Besides, you quoted me before I took it out, so its still up...oh well, perhaps he needs to read it.

I'll take it out of my post quote too, if you'd prefer.

 

[NewEnd]

lawsuit not thrown out, just an adverse ruling -- appeal continues, the suit is alive!

"born of an American" -- you're assuming, so check out this link to the history
of citizenship laws -- it has changed through the years and hasn't always been
"born of an American".

historical summary of citizenship law
http://www.aca.ch/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=38


lynn

First definition... by the founding fathers

1790 First Congress, Act of March 26th, 1790, 1 Stat. 103.

"And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States".

To me, this is pretty clear, except for the sexism prevelant in society at the time, that the founders intended for anyone born of a citizen to automatically be considered a natural born citizen.

 

[lynnf]

never say die

First definition... by the founding fathers



To me, this is pretty clear, except for the sexism prevelant in society at the time, that the founders intended for anyone born of a citizen to automatically be considered a natural born citizen.

which was superceded by the Act of 1795(?) and later by other acts which acknowledged deficiencies in the original

lynn

 

[acptulsa]

He was born on a US Army base in a US Army hospital. Also McCain released his birth records when he was asked.

It was no Army hospital and it was not only off base, it was outside of the Canal Zone.

 

[NewEnd]

Note the supporters of this bastard on this forum. I am so disgusted at what is left of this poor country that has been destroyed from within on national television. The communist aiders and abetters are thick here and need to be routed out.

1. Im a bastard
2. I gave $200 to Ron Paul, $50 to BJ Lawson, have volunteered for Paul, spent 4 years vigorously volunteering for the Libertarian party (2000 -2004)
and have spent no time volunteering for Obama, nor have I sent him a red cent.

We need a serious forum for real freedom loving people that need to discuss the real issues. We don't need the stress of having to wade through the disinformation and depressing rhetoric of the enemy.

"real freedom loving" What does this lawyer crap have to do with freedom? It doesn't, its people trying to change an election outcome on a technicality with no real merit.

I posted about this bastards birth certificate on this forum over 6 months ago when something could have been done but was thrown in the ditch.

Good for you.

This bastard plans on stealing office and then allowing his devote black supporters to tear down your house and kill you and your children to protect his right as a "world citizen" to finish this country off.

We have been told for 50 years that the black race is only about 13% of the population and you have believed it. Crap, they have put these people on welfare and the more they dropped, the more democratic voters they have. There are 30 million blacks in New York, Houston, La and Chicago alone. We have been out breed and lied too. We are the dumbest people on earth I do believe.

Who is "we?" I see where you are coming from, though.

Count the number of black faces you see on television in 1 hour and you will be shocked. Without exception now, movie and TV, the leader, the good guy, the top dog, the smartest guy et all to adnausem is always a BLACK. They have brainwashed the silly white fools in this country to vote this dangerous fraud into office and give the safety and security for their asses to this trojan horse. MY GOD!!

Sounds to me like you equate "freedom loving" with "nigger hating"

96% of the black people in this country will vote for another black even if they knew he would kill every one of them. They have proven this in Afrika time and again. If the white man had not gone into afrika, they would still be in the dark on the dark continent eating each other and still dreaming of how to make a wheel. Oprah's big ass would have been soup a long time ago.

Keep that fat mouth of yours flapping, boy.

We're in deep shit my friend! For all you PC corrupt crowd, go to hell, you're on the menu too and don't know it.

No, your kind is on the menu. Give me a knife, and I'll gladly be the first to start carving the cancer you represent from my country.

P.S. The freedom movement doesn't need racist little shits like you.

 

[NewEnd]

which was superceded by the Act of 1795(?) and later by other acts which acknowledged deficiencies in the original

lynn

so which is it? Are you looking for the founder's original intent, or the current definitions as interpreted by the law? If the former, he is citizen by birth (unless you believe only white men, aged 21+ and landed should vote).... if the latter, the court has decided he is a natural born citizen

Ohhh.. I know... you just want the outcome that gives McCain a win.

 

[acptulsa]

so which is it? Are you looking for the founder's original intent, or the current definitions as interpreted by the law?

If the founders were alive, we could ascertain intent. We could ask them. As it is, no law can modify the Constitution so the 1790 law (which was quickly repealed), the 1795 law and all other acts of Congress mean nothing whatsoever. And the Supreme Court has yet to weigh in.

I know I am not an neutral observer on this issue. I want both Obama and McCain declared ineligible. I think that would be beyond hilarious and beyond heartening...

 

[NewEnd]

I know I am not an neutral observer on this issue. I want both Obama and McCain declared ineligible. I think that would be beyond hilarious and beyond heartening...

I think it is ridiculous to try and claim either is not a natural-born American.