New PPP poll: Rand only at 4% (5?) but does the best against Hillary

[Brett85]

Very interesting. Rand's numbers are so low that he's in danger of not even making the first Republican debate a week from Friday, but he still performs better against Hillary in a general election match up than any other Republican. Apparently the GOP doesn't want to win.

GOP primary:

Trump: 19%
Walker: 17%
Bush: 12%
Carson: 10%
Rubio: 10%
Huckabee: 8%
Paul: 4%
Cruz 4%
Fiorina: 4%
Kasich: 3%
Christie: 3%
Everyone else: 1% or less

General Election:

Hillary: 45%
Rand: 42%

Bush, Rubio, Walker, next closest losing by 5%.

 

[eleganz]

Very interesting. Rand's numbers are so low that he's in danger of not even making the first Republican debate a week from Friday, but he still performs better against Hillary in a general election match up than any other Republican. Apparently the GOP doesn't want to win.

GOP primary:

Trump: 19%
Walker: 17%
Bush: 12%
Carson: 10%
Rubio: 10%
Huckabee: 8%
Paul: 4%
Cruz 4%
Fiorina: 4%
Kasich: 3%
Christie: 3%
Everyone else: 1% or less

General Election:

Hillary: 45%
Rand: 42%

Bush, Rubio, Walker, next closest losing by 5%.

He's not in danger of not making the debates, most people here scare too easy.

RCP still shows him middle of the pack despite some lower polling recently. Even two weeks of polling at 1% won't average him out of the top 10.

 

[Brett85]

He's not in danger of not making the debates, most people here scare too easy.

RCP still shows him middle of the pack despite some lower polling recently. Even two weeks of polling at 1% won't average him out of the top 10.

Fox doesn't go by the RCP average. They're going to take the average of the last 5 credible independent polls that are released. If Rand averaged 4% he would probably be safe, but he can't drop any lower than that, and he's been dropping a lot in the primary polls for some reason.

 

[somename043]

He's not in danger of not making the debates, most people here scare too easy.

RCP still shows him middle of the pack despite some lower polling recently. Even two weeks of polling at 1% won't average him out of the top 10.

They are using average of 5 most recent polls

"Candidates must place "in the top 10 of an average of the five most recent national polls, as recognized by Fox News leading up to August 4th at 5 PM/ET"

So there is a possibility of him not making debates should poll numbers continue like this

 

[Brett85]

All of the cross tabs show Rand at 5% in this poll though, so I'm not sure where the 1% discrepancy comes from.

 

[69360]

Rand is fine for the debate. Those below him have little to no chance of improving polling numbers. Especially with all the mouth breathers currently polling for that idiot Trump.

Maybe once Trump implodes and the low info vote gets spread out a little more things will change.

 

[CPUd]

Second choice polling:

Link to poll here:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_72215.pdf

 

[01000110]

I don't know how Trump is getting those numbers, crazy.

I'll admit to being a little worried about Rand's numbers.

 

[CPUd]

Rand's campaign is supposed to be doing media the next week or so.

 

[Crashland]

Rand's campaign is supposed to be doing media the next week or so.

The thing is, it's not about how many media appearances you have, it's about how much the media talks about you when you aren't doing an interview.

 

[CPUd]

The thing is, it's not about how many media appearances you have, it's about how much the media talks about you when you aren't doing an interview.

Historically, that means Rand doing something newsworthy on the Senate floor.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Clinton 50%, Trump 37%

Clinton 47%, Fiorina 37%

Clinton 48%, Cruz 40%

Clinton 47%, Carson 39%

Clinton 46%, Christie 38%

Clinton 46%, Huckabee 40%

Clinton 46%, Bush 41%

Clinton 46%, Rubio 41%

Clinton 46%, Walker 41%

Clinton 45%, Paul 42%

 

[CPUd]

Rand favorability broken down:

 

[mit26chell]

This is what happens when Rand strays from the principles of liberty and comes out against diplomacy.

 

[AuH20]

I don't know how Trump is getting those numbers, crazy.

I'll admit to being a little worried about Rand's numbers.

Trump is fearless and the disenfranchised are responding in kind. That's what is happening.

 

[EBounding]

I don't know how Trump is getting those numbers, crazy.

I'll admit to being a little worried about Rand's numbers.

You must never watch TV ( a good thing!). It's literally wall-to-wall Trump

 

[Liberty74]

I don't know how Trump is getting those numbers, crazy.

I'll admit to being a little worried about Rand's numbers.

You can't be serious right? People on the "right" are NOT happy with either party on certain issues and Trump is tapping into that anger whether it's for the better or worse. The fact that you have both parties attacking Trump and the MAIN newspaper in Iowa calling for Trump to end his presidential campaign, it's a sign that the SYSTEM is SCARED. I'm not a Trump fan but I agree with him on certain points. Lot of my co-workers like that fact that he gives punches instead of being all diplomatic and run of the mill BS that comes out of MOST politicians mouth. A larger portion of the voters want a fighter for America. Trump so far offers that even if you don't agree with him.

I believe in the end the establishment will force him out of the Republican nomination or he will say something stupid the media will continue to pounce on him which the public will get exhausted in a way they are with Hillary. Don't be shocked if Trump runs Independent.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Ron polled better than Obama in 2012 as well.

Didn't stop the addlepated idiots in the Stupid party from nominating a loser.

Won't in 2016 either.

 

[brandon]

This is what happens when Rand strays from the principles of liberty and comes out against diplomacy.

Yeah. Someone in another thread called him a milquetoast moderate which stuck with me. Even still though, the archetype milquetoast moderate Rubio is polling more than twice what Rand is? I don't get it.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Ron polled better than Obama in 2012 as well.

Didn't stop the addlepated idiots in the Stupid party from nominating a loser.

Won't in 2016 either.

This comment is inaccurate. Ron sometimes polled as well as Obama. Ron usually polled about the same as Romney in matchups versus Obama. Rand is doing better than that. Rand is almost always running better than the mainstream GOP candidates in general election matchups.