New Iowa Quinnipiac Poll - Rand at 6%

[whoisjohngalt]

lol at the 100% for Graham and Jindal.

I like that graphic, it has some pretty good numbers in there.

It's 100% because they each got one or two voters, it could have just as easily been 100% the other way.

 

[Badger Paul]

"I'm not sure it even makes a difference any more since Trump isn't afraid at all of playing to the margins which use to belong to Ron, the dude basically just blamed Dubya for 9/11 in a GOP primary and gives lip service to all types of conspiracies."

The sad thing is that's what we wanted Rand to say all along. But noooooooo! We had to play footsy with the establishment and show how "mature" we were.

Decorum! Decorum!

 

[erowe1]

The sad thing is that's what we wanted Rand to say all along.

Not I. I think it makes Trump look uninformed and it will end up hurting him.

 

[ds21089]

Trump leads the "definitely would not support" category at 30%. Bush 2nd at 21%

 

[rich34]

I just gotta say isn't interesting that as soon as Rand comes out saying that he's currently got 3,000 college kids ready to go on caucus night that now he starts to rise in the polls. Yeah it could be a coincidence or it could the pollsters know they best be adjusting their demographics lest they look stupid on election night? I tend to believe the former.

 

[KingNothing]

This is not true, a good friend of mine consulted for Carson and he knows that Carson is running a healthy ground game. Carson has a lot of activists working for him before he even considered running.

We'll see about that.

I have a hard time believing that a man like Carson, with no political experience, can handle the spot light for the next 100 days. And even if he can, I doubt that he'll have the detailed knowledge to successfully run a ground game. He might have good advisers, but he's still going to have to make decisions.

 

[eleganz]

We'll see about that.

I have a hard time believing that a man like Carson, with no political experience, can handle the spot light for the next 100 days. And even if he can, I doubt that he'll have the detailed knowledge to successfully run a ground game. He might have good advisers, but he's still going to have to make decisions.

Lol come on get real, don't think your post is making much sense. Candidates rarely make GOTV type decisions, thats what employees and strategists are for.

Carson handling the spotlight has nothing to do with whether or not he has a ground game. The PAC formed to recruit Carson to run raised millions before he even began considering a run.

 

[Robrank]

The narrative that should be pushed by Rand supporters and the campaign (to get the media to do it):

Quinnipiac Poll: Paul surges past Jeb and Fiorina in Iowa.

It's all about the surge.

 

[CPUd]

We'll see about that.

I have a hard time believing that a man like Carson, with no political experience, can handle the spot light for the next 100 days. And even if he can, I doubt that he'll have the detailed knowledge to successfully run a ground game. He might have good advisers, but he's still going to have to make decisions.

I don't see him ending his campaign outright until late in the primary season, or even the RNC. He will definitely drop in the polls and lose primary states, but he could stop campaigning there (he has no real organization in primary states as of yet) and focus only on caucus states. There were astroturfers working the conventions even back in 2012, this time they will be bussing in real supporters who don't know much about Carson, except for the 1 speech he gave at a breakfast years ago, yet they will be enthusiastic and very vocal. These people will still be inexperienced at the delegate process, but are not the enemy. They can be useful strategically to shut down opportunities for Rubio or Jeb people to win delegate seats in these states.

 

[Jonderdonk]

If Carson drops, Cruz shoots to the top...

 

[CPUd]

If Carson drops, Cruz shoots to the top...

Yeah, Cruz will probably lead in Iowa for a time.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

"I'm not sure it even makes a difference any more since Trump isn't afraid at all of playing to the margins which use to belong to Ron, the dude basically just blamed Dubya for 9/11 in a GOP primary and gives lip service to all types of conspiracies."

The sad thing is that's what we wanted Rand to say all along. But noooooooo! We had to play footsy with the establishment and show how "mature" we were.

Decorum! Decorum!

Hey, dumbass, did you actually listen to what Trump said?

He didn't question the offficial story in the slightest. All he said was that there were intelligence failures (which even G.W. admitted, hence the justification for the DHS).

Trump is the pied piper; retards hear what they wanna hear.

 

[nikcers]

Rand is getting better interviews and better press, this is a good trend. I think Rand needs to worry less about his wording and more about his tone. I see him in some interviews where he just has that high energy confident tone, and I think that is what really makes all the difference. If there is any lesson to be learned here it's that people don't care about policy as much as they care about tone and inflection. I really think this is why Ron Paul was able to reach people across the political spectrum.

This is why keep I keep questioning myself whether Carson can make it through the debate alive. He talks in a condescending tone and whenever he speaks I am always left with the impression that he doesn't believe what he is saying. Its almost the opposite inflection that I get from Ted Cruz. While Ted Cruz always talks in this almost defensive inflection so that I am always left feeling like I am being lectured. Even when he says stuff that I agree with I tone him out almost defensibly. Ted Cruz is always talking "at" people not to them, and depends on poor strawman arguments to prove his point.

Rand makes these incredible arguments but I feel like I believe him only because of confirmation bias, I really feel like he doesn't make absolute statements enough. What I feel that is lacking is this sense of resolve, or affirmation. It makes some of his responses seem cold and calculated. I would like it if he were to somehow perk up and plain speak his talking points a bit more so they seem more off the cuff and less discreet. Right now his responses feel too calculated. This is what I call the Rand Paul uncertainty complex.