CNN/ORC: Rand 6th Bush 7th nationally

[65fastback2+2]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/22/cnnpoll.pdf

Interviews with 1,018 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORCInternational on December 17-21, 2015. The margin of sampling error forresults based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points.The sample also includes 927 interviews among registered voters (plus orminus 3 percentage points).This sample includes 618 interviews among landline respondents and 400interviews among cell phone respondents.[/qute]

60% landline / 40% cell phone

I'll wait for the usual trumpeters of "The polls are fair" to show up again...

 

[65fastback2+2]

this is why Paul has been working to create soundbites that are repeated the following days all over...much more effective.

 

[carlton]

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

It is not a linear scale. The sample size to keep ~5% margin of error for 5000 (357) is not much different from the sample size needed for 50000000 (385).

Which is absolutely true in case the sample taken is in fact a genuine cross section of society selected completely at random within the set parameters. We know this practically never happen so there's always a bias in some way or another beyond the common MOE. A list of likely republican voters might not include people who've suddenly become interested. It's science but it's definitely not hard science.

Also, there's a big difference between a poll that asks people about their political leanings and one that asks which flavor of ice-cream they like. Here in the Netherlands polls are notoriously unreliable. This is because traditionally people don't really talk about who they vote for and may even lie in polls.

 

[dude58677]

Placement does not matter folks. It's the percentage.

Just hope no one gets majority.

 

[thatpeculiarcat]

That is frightening. I always tell myself that people like the ones in Luntz's focus groups don't really exist, but I guess they have to.

 

[limequat]

I saw that and completely disregarded it. All the internet on who won the debate gave Rand between 10-50%. In Fox's online poll he even beat out Trump.

2% think Rand won the debate? Really? Charles fucking Krauthammer thought he won the debate. Newt fucking Gingrich thought he won the debate.

Then it occurred to me. There were literally zero Rand supporters over the age of 50 in this poll. The people that watched the debate, watched it on the their cable TV, watched the MSM conclusion afterwards and obviously concurred 100%. This is CNN's core demographic, and the MSM still has absolute control over them.

 

[RDM]

 

[grizzums]

I don't have the screenshot but last night I saw CNN show top 5 last night. Paul wasn't even up there and Bush was 5th at 3%.

Same old bullsheet.

 

[adam220891]

Anyone have the screenshot of the latest poll blackout? It had a comment 'shopped in indicating where Rand actually was.

 

[eleganz]

I don't have the screenshot but last night I saw CNN show top 5 last night. Paul wasn't even up there and Bush was 5th at 3%.

Same old bullsheet.

Damn we need this screenshot, what program did it air on at least?

 

[grizzums]

It aired on CNN.. not sure which program. Was around 630p est on Dec 23rd. I wish I'd captured it. Disgusting.