New Iowa PPP poll: Rand at 3% with a 31% favorability rating

[eleganz]

Carly sounds more libertarian than Rand. Rand Paul is a coward.

Warning : Typical low information voter.

 

[kbs021]

According to this poll. If Rand got exactly the same support that Ron did, he will most likely win this caucus. Now.. Does anyone have any information that Rand can't do that? I was hearing that Rand was easily getting around 85-90% of these voters from the campaign in Iowa. Obviously polling at this time wouldn't predict the electorate that will vote in Feb.

 

[Liberty74]

FoxNews didn't have to do anything. Just watch the debate, he had negative vibe throughout the debate. He came across as unlikeable.

Sure sure sure...Rand was the only candidate that attacked while saying anything intellectual. Trump supporters did not like and the the establishment pundit's candidate Christie did not like, hence the rise in his negative favorability ratings. Rand got hit from both sides. And I'm sure Carly rose all by her lonesome self without the help of FN...sure sure sure.

My thinking is, if Rand does this in the first debate against the big dogs with 10 people on stage, what would he do against Hillary in a debate during a one to one stage?

 

[Barrex]

Carly sounds more libertarian than Rand. Rand Paul is a coward.

Why are people allowed to post this shit on RAND PAUL section of the forum? I could understand if it was in Hot topics or something like that but here in candidates own forum....

Everything negative said about candidate in HIS OWN SUB-FORUM should be moved in hot topics, chaff spin or deleted. People who constantly post negative stuff about candidate in his own sub-forum should lose privilege to start threads or post in candidates sub-forum.



Annoying as hell.

 

[Liberty74]

According to this poll. If Rand got exactly the same support that Ron did, he will most likely win this caucus. Now.. Does anyone have any information that Rand can't do that? I was hearing that Rand was easily getting around 85-90% of these voters from the campaign in Iowa. Obviously polling at this time wouldn't predict the electorate that will vote in Feb.

I doubt Rand is pulling 90% of Ron voters. Ron got 14% of the Republican vote where currently this Republican only PPP poll has Rand at 3%.

Listen, not that many people vote in the Republican Iowa Caucuses - 122K in 2012 of which 23% were Independents which Ron did the best with at 43%. The demographics in 2016 will be very similar to that of 2012. Rand will need to be around 15% "Republican" voter base to be competitive. Another thing to consider for Iowa, 57% of the Republican voters are Evangelical or Born Again...

So we have...

68% of voters are age 45+
57% of voters are Evangelical or Born again...
67% of voters had household income of $50K or higher
75% of voters are Republican

Knowing those 4 FACTS, how DOES RAND WIN Iowa?

46% of voters made final decision in the last few days

I remember someone claiming there were about 60,000 registered Libertarians in Iowa. If so, how can that play into a winning formation?

 

[Jackie Moon]

Thank you Barrex.

I understand people having different opinions. I accept people having an opposing point of view. I accept if someone doesn't want to support Rand. If someone wants to support another candidate that is their right. I even accept them being allowed to post those opinions on this site.

But this specific section is the Rand Paul Grassroots Forum. Why try to derail and discourage supporters from their grassroots efforts to help Rand?

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

And on the University of Iowa campus he is at what ?

Losing to Bernie Sanders.

 

[Wilf]

Won't make a difference. The youth vote did not shoot up significantly in any of other primaries and causes in Feb/March 2012 compared to Jan 2012.

MUST WIN the old vote, at least be very competitive or you are bound to repeat the same mistakes...

You do not think that Rand is doing this right know.

 

[Wilf]

Carly sounds more libertarian than Rand. Rand Paul is a coward.

Prove it.. before I suggest that you find another fourm to spew your on beliefs on.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Poor guy, not only was he sick, but he's trying to sell freedom to people who don't want it.

I'm inclined to go donate just for the hell of it.

 

[jj-]

Poor guy, not only was he sick, but he's trying to sell freedom to people who don't want it.

People also don't want a political correctness police.

 

[Barrex]

Poor guy, not only was he sick, but he's trying to sell freedom to people who don't want it.

I'm inclined to go donate just for the hell of it.

If it werent for those monstrous acts that you committed in bestest picture thread I would have + repped you.

 

[Brett85]

People also don't want a political correctness police.

And they'll vote for Trump for the sole reason that he's not politically correct, even though the guy is a flaming liberal/statist on the issues. You can be a hardcore liberal on most issues but still get 25% in the GOP primary as long as you come out and call illegal immigrants "rapists."

 

[Anti Federalist]

People also don't want a political correctness police.

That is low down on the list.

People do not want freedom.

In spite of what Ron says, freedom is not popular.

Most people hate it, the rest are afraid of it.

 

[Jan2017]

CNN has already committed to have the "undercard" debate, so Rand will get time either way. He might even get more time if he is bumped to the undercard.

No exposure if he was in the second tier debate . . .
better for Rand to be able to go to bat against Trump on economic theory as well - better for the country to
have Rand in the main event CNN debate, imho



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[Anti Federalist]

And they'll vote for Trump for the sole reason that he's not politically correct, even though the guy is a flaming liberal/statist on the issues. You can be a hardcore liberal on most issues but still get 25% in the GOP primary as long as you come out and call illegal immigrants "rapists."

I'm convinced this is the most epic troll event ever, playing out.

 

[jj-]

That is low down on the list.

It's high in the voters list, that's why Trump is polling where he is.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

You know the phone from home folks are actively contacting all the caucus goers for Ron Paul in 2012. The same group that nearly won Iowa for him and gave him 20% of the vote. And no these people do not have land lines, they're all using cell phones. If Team Rand can get almost all of these people willing to participate again, while adding the new 18-22 year old block of voters he's going to be in this thing right down to the wire regardless of money. Cruz does have a lot of money, but he's also got a lot of competition for that religious crowd that went to Santorum the last time and Huckabee in 2008. Then you have Ben Carson, competing for the same crowd. Rand on the other hand is going to cherry pick from each of these groups while hopefully hanging onto his more libertarian base. That's how he wins my friend!

But are they energized to turn out for Rand? At this juncture, I'd say not many.

 

[Wilf]

But are they energized to turn out for Rand? At this juncture, I'd say not many.

Can you name me one GOP presidentional canidates that empower voters for change?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Eh, I haven't thought Rand was going to win for a while, so whatever. I'll still be voting for him though.

How many times are you all going to set yourselves up for letdowns? The polls must be wrong, cellphones, demographics, liars...

Honestly.