Nevada results thread

[francisco]

You know what I am enjoying the most this election cycle, people losing their minds over Trump winning; media, democrats, neocons, GOP establishment.

There was that interview posted on twitter where the reporter said you think Trump can win the general, the other guy says yup massive victory that will surprise everybody, the look of unscripted horror on the reporters face was priceless, I LOVE IT.

H. L. Mencken said it best:


“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”


"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

 

[Cabal]

Anyone else think Kasich drops out tomorrow?

I thought Kasich was banking on midwest states and his home state of Ohio.

Of course it will, that's what is going to happen when a northeastern liberal pretending to be anti-establishment and republican whips them up with a message of hate, then turns into Mitt Romney for the general election.

Again, I don't think it matters who is nominated, or who is ultimately elected. In any case, I don't see how this is going to change the dissatisfaction with the federal government which will ultimately continue doing the same things it has been doing regardless of who sits in the WH. You seem to have things backwards--what appears to be Trump's eventual nomination is one consequence of this growing dissatisfaction (and I'd argue this has been steadily building and worsening over time for a while now), not the cause of it.

 

[misterx]

I thought Kasich was banking on midwest states and his home state of Ohio.

Yes, but he's under a lot of pressure to make way for Rubio, and he's out of money. Finishing behind Carson tonight makes it really difficult for him to justify staying in the race.

 

[misterx]

Rand has 10 votes now to Bush's 9.

 

[puppetmaster]

Of course it will, that's what is going to happen when a northeastern liberal pretending to be anti-establishment and republican whips them up with a message of hate, then turns into Mitt Romney for the general election.

this anger/hate is not caused by trump. .....

 

[Cabal]

Yes, but he's under a lot of pressure to make way for Rubio, and he's out of money. Finishing behind Carson tonight makes it really difficult for him to justify staying in the race.

Well, for me, it's been difficult to justify his stay for a while now. But these people exist in different planes of reality where they are special snowflakes, the State is benevolent, and anything is possible. So who knows how he justifies much of anything.

 

[AuH20]

this anger/hate is not caused by trump. .....

Correct. Trump is just coalescing the existing anger and hate into a political wrecking ball.

 

[AuH20]

Hugh Hewitt, you sick, delusional man!

Hugh Hewitt ‏@hughhewitt 7m7 minutes ago
Hugh Hewitt Retweeted David Zavac
I would think that a talented sportswriter especially would understand that less than 10% of game has been played. Hugh Hewitt added,

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Again, I don't think it matters who is nominated, or who is ultimately elected. In any case, I don't see how this is going to change the dissatisfaction with the federal government which will ultimately continue doing the same things it has been doing regardless of who sits in the WH. You seem to have things backwards--what appears to be Trump's eventual nomination is one consequence of this growing dissatisfaction (and I'd argue this has been steadily building and worsening over time for a while now), not the cause of it.

Or as Pat Buchanan put it in his current column:

Trump is winning because, on immigration, amnesty, securing our border and staying out of any new crusades for democracy, he has tapped into the most powerful currents in politics: economic populism and “America First” nationalism.

Look at the crowds Trump draws. Look at the record turnouts in Republican caucuses and primaries.

If Beltway Republicans think they can stop Trump and turn back the movement behind him, and continue on with today’s policies on trade, immigration, and intervention, they will be swept into the same dustbin of history as the Rockefeller Republicans.

America is saying, “Goodbye to all that.”

For Trump is not only a candidate. He is a messenger from Middle America. And the message he is delivering to the establishment is: We want an end to your policies and we want an end to you.

If the elites think they can not only deny Trump the nomination but turn back this revolution and re-establish themselves in the esteem of the people, they delude themselves.

This is hubris of a high order.

 

[Cabal]

Or as Pat Buchanan put it in his current column:

America is saying, “Goodbye to all that.”

What's unclear, and perhaps worrying is what will they be saying "hello" to.

 

[hells_unicorn]

I'm not going to fully count out Cruz and Rubio until after Super Tuesday, but given not only the wide margin of Trump's victory (darn close to 50%), his consistent lead in most demographics is pretty telling of his overall advantage. This fight was over before it began, and Cruz is coming out of this worse of any of them.

 

[misterx]

What's unclear, and perhaps worrying is what will they be saying "hello" to.

You can never really know. Even the founders didn't know what they were going to end up with if they said goodbye to the King. When the status quo is bad enough, you take your chances at burning down the system, and you just hope you can create something good from the ashes.

 

[Cabal]

You can never really know. Even the founders didn't know what they were going to end up with if they said goodbye to the King. When the status quo is bad enough, you take your chances at burning down the system, and you just hope you can create something good from the ashes.

I don't think we're headed for anything resembling the Enlightenment-inspired American revolution, if that's what you're suggesting.

 

[AuH20]

I don't think we're headed for anything resembling the Enlightenment-inspired American revolution, if that's what you're suggesting.

We're headed towards regional dissolution.

 

[AuH20]

Megyn on Rubot:

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/19EB...p4?versionId=aDOQ5xyY4rA8wMvJ7Uisgt7u36I5xqlN

 

[misterx]

I don't think we're headed for anything resembling the Enlightenment-inspired American revolution, if that's what you're suggesting.

I'm only suggesting that you don't avoid change just because of the unknown.

 

[AuH20]

 

[bronc_fan23]

 

[ProBlue33]

The smart money is calling this now....check this out.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/donald-trump-megadonors-219690

 

[Cabal]

I'm only suggesting that you don't avoid change just because of the unknown.

I'm not against change (and even if I was, there is no avoiding it). What I'm concerned with is the average voter's ability to properly diagnose the root problems that cause the symptoms they observe, and are dissatisfied with.