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What Elon Musk Really Wants

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The Tesla and X mogul has long dreamed of redesigning the world in his own extreme image. Trump may be his Trojan horse.

By Franklin Foer
October 19, 2024

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In Elon Musk’s vision of human history, Donald Trump is the singularity. If Musk can propel Trump back to the White House, it will mark the moment that his own superintelligence merges with the most powerful apparatus on the planet, the American government—not to mention the business opportunity of the century.

Many other titans of Silicon Valley have tethered themselves to Trump. But Musk is the one poised to live out the ultimate techno-authoritarian fantasy. With his influence, he stands to capture the state, not just to enrich himself. His entanglement with Trump will be an Ayn Rand novel sprung to life, because Trump has explicitly invited Musk into the government to play the role of the master engineer, who redesigns the American state—and therefore American life—in his own image.


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https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2024/10/donald-trump-is-elon-musks-trojan-horse/680309/




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His entanglement with Trump will be an Ayn Rand novel sprung to life

And this is a bad thing how, exactly?

You're really reaching when you have to post Marxist bilge from The Atlantic to make your case against Trump or Musk.
 
And this is a bad thing how, exactly?

You're really reaching when you have to post Marxist bilge from The Atlantic to make your case against Trump or Musk.

Falling for the "Bait and Switch" again, I see.

I do not want government involved in my life in any way shape or form. I certainly do not want my money to subsidize it.

Have you not learned by Operation Warp Speed? Do you not realize that as administrations change these programs only become further entrenched?

Where is your sense of individuality, and the elimination of government subsidies and programs?

Once again, if Kamala proposed this, you would be all over her like flies on sh|t, but because it's Trump/Elon, it is "for the greater good".
 
Falling for the "Bait and Switch" again, I see.

I do not want government involved in my life in any way shape or form. I certainly do not want my money to subsidize it.

Have you not learned by Operation Warp Speed? Do you not realize that as administrations change these programs only become further entrenched?

Where is your sense of individuality, and the elimination of government subsidies and programs?

Once again, if Kamala proposed this, you would be all over her like flies on sh|t, but because it's Trump/Elon, it is "for the greater good".

Again, when did enacting Randian policies become a negative?

Trump has said, multiple times, he is going to appoint Musk to specifically target government programs and subsidies for cuts and elimination.

Please point out where Harris or Walz has proposed anything at all like that.
 
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Again, when did enacting Randian policies become a negative?

Trump has said, multiple times, he is going to appoint Musk to specifically target government programs and subsidies for cuts and elimination.


You really can't be that dense. Or can you.


Milei Has Created a New National Tax Collection Agency in Argentina - The old one, he says, was too inefficient in collecting taxes. Translation: More of the hard-earned money of Argentinians will be stolen from them by the state.
 
His entanglement with Trump will be an Ayn Rand novel sprung to life

And this is a bad thing how, exactly?

You're really reaching when you have to post Marxist bilge from The Atlantic to make your case against Trump or Musk.

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OK, so you think he's full of $#@!.

We are all well aware of that fact already.

You still have not answered my question.


What question? Where Kamala wants to create yet another agency to make government "more efficient"?
 
No.

"How is creating a more Randian society a bad thing?"


Good grief. Of course I align with a lot of Ayn. Do you actually think or believe that Trump and Elon are Randian in philosophy??? Based on their Records, I put them more in line with WEF Klaus Schwab and their 4th Industrial Revolution, for crying out loud.
 
And this is a bad thing how, exactly?

You want to live through Atlas Shrugged without being invited to Galt's Gulch?

You want a neuralink installed in your head? Anxious to be assimilated into the Borg?

If this propaganda rag is so desperate to play its partisan games on a somewhat higher-functioning audience it reveals something real, or just wants to start the predictive programming on the kind of sheep that can be conned into sterilizing their own children, we shouldn't look because it's leftist? Or are we just ignoring all the evidence today?

Yeah, it's leftist. It's also connected. Deeply connected. How can we believe them when they tell us what evil they plan to do to us next if we don't listen? Unfortunately, not everything in the Sea of Propaganda is a lie. Some of it is worth sorting and examining.

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But ... but ... Hitler! ... Stalin! ... Mussolini! ...

I notice they never include Chairman Mao in their unhinged rants.

Because these current revolutionaries most closely resemble the Maoist flavor of Marxist oppression.

Why do these turds keep having to get beaten down every generation?

 
You really can't be that dense. Or can you.


Milei Has Created a New National Tax Collection Agency in Argentina - The old one, he says, was too inefficient in collecting taxes. Translation: More of the hard-earned money of Argentinians will be stolen from them by the state.

Even George Washington did this. And he didn't just win an election - he is directly responsible for ending a lot of lives in furtherance of the idea of reducing taxes, prior to invading and subjugating a backwater that took that idea considerably less seriously than Washington had a mere 10 years earlier.

I don't know what to say - you and I both know this is how it works. Things get super bad, and then someone comes along and says "it has to change!" and gives everyone a mental image of where it's gonna be when they're done reforming, and then every single time they find that point Jefferson talked about and push things back to exactly as egregious as they can be without spilling over the edge and fomenting revolution.

I don't know how you got to understanding that and seeing the scam. I have been working in IT for 24 years and had to get good at seeing patterns and identifying root causes, and once I got pretty good at that is the exact time the RP Revolution happened and I got forced to use that skill on political systems, and it all seems rather obvious.

BUT, back then, exactly the time of the RP Revolution, I was also working on legacy systems and I had the most enjoyable part of my career - the one where I was given free reign over large segments of system and if I made a logical case to my boss that something was irredeemable I was allowed to rewrite the whole bloody thing. So I know that this is not only possible, but nowhere near as painful as people make out. In fact I got in an argument recently when the Crowdstrike thing happened and Elon commanded that Falcon Sensor be removed from all of his systems. And other IT people on the internet were calling BS because you can't just remove security infrastructure like that in 24 hours... and I was actually going to bat for Elon in a couple places, saying things like 'you're only saying this because you've never done it... they could absolutely replace Falcon on all his systems in 24 hours by finding a team of 6-10 competent people who aren't going to F around and have been explicitly granted AUTHORITY to make it happen and know they all get an extra $25k after its successful completion. It's literally that easy.' And I suspect something like that, or at least drastically out of the box, is how he made it happen.

I don't work for Elon but I'm pretty sure you don't get into a position he's in without breaking rules - and I'm hoping the rule he's breaking is the one I was talking about, the unwritten rule that says 'conventional wisdom is correct and we're not even going to try to go against it'. The one that says getting rid of Falcon Sensor is a gigantic project that requires at least 6 weeks of analysis and a team of 50 people and daily 1 hour meetings to make sure everyone's on target and then it gets delayed a couple times.

We all know Trump didn't earn his way into his position the same way but you don't get to stay in that position by following rules all the time, either. There's a chance that it will work. It won't work the way we expect, and probably not even to an extent matching what is being promised. But just like in every other case where the state walks things back from their promises, it might give us something.
 
I notice they never include Chairman Mao in their unhinged rants.

Because these current revolutionaries most closely resemble the Maoist flavor of Marxist oppression.

Meh.

How did the Zionists finally put Israel over? Hitler targeted Jews. "Hitler was a bad guy" is much more than a cliché. It's the foundation the Zionists laid to sucker the people who had just won WWII into building Israel upon.

So what if Mao killed somewhere between three and ten times as many people? With these people, it isn't what you know, it's who you know. Likewise it isn't how many you kill, it's who you kill.
 
Good grief. Of course I align with a lot of Ayn. Do you actually think or believe that Trump and Elon are Randian in philosophy??? Based on their Records, I put them more in line with WEF Klaus Schwab and their 4th Industrial Revolution, for crying out loud.

The article you posted in the OP does (or it pretends to, anyway).

AF didn't say he did, too - he merely asked how it would be a bad thing.
 
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This is transparent commie propaganda, and posting it here is clearly an attempt to suppress votes for Trump and get Camela elected so she can turn us into Venezuela and we can go through Atlas Shrugged without Galt's Gulch existing.
 
You really can't be that dense. Or can you.


Milei Has Created a New National Tax Collection Agency in Argentina - The old one, he says, was too inefficient in collecting taxes. Translation: More of the hard-earned money of Argentinians will be stolen from them by the state.
LOL

He's lowering taxes, he's also firing a bunch of overpaid government workers so that the lower taxes will be collected more efficiently.

I understand why you object to that, but around here you really should stick to criticizing him for things like getting involved with Israel against Iran instead of putting Argentina first.
 
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The article you posted in the OP does (or it pretends to, anyway).

AF didn't say he did, too - he merely asked how it would be a bad thing.

I believe that I answered his question.

Furthermore, "sides" aside, subsidizing [via forced/"efficient" taxation], as well as government central planning of philosophical ideas, are contrary to a free society and individuals/voluntarists wanting to be left alone.
 
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