Must Libertarians Believe in Open Borders?

[AmericanSpartan]

Are ideas physical things that remain in a person's skull in their own location? Or are ideas immaterial things that do not stay inside a person's body?

If they are not in our nation, they can not greatly effect us. That is a fact.

IF they are kept out of our nation, they can not effect our lives, cost us money, or effect our elections.

And if the ideas do float around, why are we freedom-loving Kentuckians allowed to see, hear or read the ideas from these Commifornians? Shouldn't their press and publications be monitored and censored to protect the rest of us white patriots?

1st Amendment, 14th Amendment, Freedom to travel inside the nation.

 

[LibertyEagle]

The thing you have to understand, Spartan, is that some here WANT the country to fall. They are ignorant enough to believe that they will be allowed to rebuild it from the ashes. lol. So, anything they can do to speed up the fall, they are all for.

Obviously, I am not one of them.

 

[Sola_Fide]

If they are not in our nation, they can not greatly effect us. That is a fact.

IF they are kept out of our nation, they can not effect our lives, cost us money, or effect our elections.

What? How can ideas "stay out of our nation"? Can't anyone go on the net and read anything they want?

 

[AmericanSpartan]

You get all this from saying that he believes in national sovereignty and deciding who and how many immigrate to the nation?

Fact is, you don't want a nation, much less national sovereignty. Your ideals are right in keeping with the globalists. You should be ashamed, Sola.

He should be alast he does not nor will he...They want a massive world wide gulag, it will be a living hell but along as they feel morally superior to all the "bigots" and "racists" all will be well.

 

[LibertyEagle]

He should be alast he does not nor will he...They want a massive world wide gulag, it will be a living hell but along as they feel morally superior to all the "bigots" and "racists" all will be well.

No, they don't really want that. They just are extremely naive and don't get that when our country falls, we will be ushered into world government.

Even Lew Rockwell at Mises thinks their open borders BS is dumbass.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

Fact is, each nation should be able to decide who they want to immigrate to their country. In the U.S., we were very picky until 1965 when Teddy Kennedy opened the floodgates to people in nations we previously did not allow immigrants from.

Yes and then we started our path to national decline, but not to worry soon immigration sanity will reign.

Why some people do not understand they will be out voted by allowing the floodgates to open to the 3rd world is beyond me. Do they just ignore reality because it is "offensive"?

 

[AmericanSpartan]

The thing you have to understand, Spartan, is that some here WANT the country to fall. They are ignorant enough to believe that they will be allowed to rebuild it from the ashes. lol. So, anything they can do to speed up the fall, they are all for.

Obviously, I am not one of them.

Yeah, they think if they import enough collectivist, tribalism, low IQed 3rd worlders and things go to crap things will work out, why is beyond me.

 

[LibertyEagle]

What? How can ideas "stay out of our nation"? Can't anyone go on the net and read anything they want?

Yes, but they won't be spreading their ideology in our schools or voting booths.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yeah, they think if they import enough collectivist, tribalism, low IQed 3rd worlders and things go to crap things will work out, why is beyond me.

Because they don't value nations. They only value personal private property.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

What? How can ideas "stay out of our nation"? Can't anyone go on the net and read anything they want?

I mean we can keep people out of the nation.

 

[Cabal]

why is beyond me.

Many things seem beyond you.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Never said the latter, you clearly are not capable of understanding what I mean when talking about the 1st.

You just said that some people do not have the rights that white Americans have. How did the white Americans get those rights and the other people not?

You always scream "Marxist" as if that make so, it does not.

Yes, I have no idea about slavery but you support importing people that will vote away your rights, freedom, wealth, and future.

I'm not screaming it, I'm describing your view of rights. You don't have a view of rights that makes freedom natural to man. You think some have rights that others don't. And the only way that you can believe that is if rights come from a government decree.

If rights don't come from a government decree, then where do they come from?

 

[AmericanSpartan]

Yes, but they won't be spreading their ideology in our schools or voting booths.

And without that mass of imported voters the left will die.

 

[erowe1]

Leftists are for open borders. You're with Pelosi and McCain. Enjoy.

That's false, and it always has been.

You're with Stalin, Mao, and Bernie Sanders.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Many things seem beyond you.

Yes, if he'd just get in line and become a leftist tool for the globalists, he'd be all good, right?

 

[AmericanSpartan]

Because they don't value nations. They only value personal private property.

And they still can not understand it will be taken away from them when the 3rd worlders get power.

In the end they lose everything.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I mean we can keep people out of the nation.

That is why I asked you about ideas. Are ideas physical things that get locked into a person's skull and sticks in their head and moves around with them? Or are ideas immaterial entities that are not bound by a person's head.

If ideas are not bound by a physical person's head, then restricting immigration does nothing to solve the problems you think exist in this country.

 

[LibertyEagle]

That's false, and it always has been.

You're with Stalin, Mao, and Bernie Sanders.

No, it's true. Wear it. You've earned it, erowe.

 

[AmericanSpartan]

You just said that some people do not have the rights that white Americans have. How did the white Americans get those rights and the other people not?

I said that some do not fight the rights that Anglo Americans are fighting to protect.

I'm not screaming it, I'm describing your view of rights. You don't have a view of rights that makes freedom natural to man. You think some have rights that others don't. And the only way that you can believe that is if rights come from a government decree.

If rights don't come from a government decree, then where do they come from?

From your existence or God depending on your views. That being said the right to immigrate/tresspass does not exinst.

 

[Cabal]

That is what immigration is, the importation of people

No, it isn't. Immigration is people moving (usually of their own will, under their own power, and at their own expense) from one region to another, usually across some State-defined borders.

That you'd like to imagine these words are the same doesn't make them so. As I observed earlier, you seem to have issues when it comes to words and their meaning. I would suggest you become more literate and accurate with your use of words, for our sake as much as your own.

I know they do not exist or are protected when you have majority of people that do not understand them

Such as yourself?

You want to take about some perfect solution while the nation burns, I seek to put out the flames and repair damage.

Where have I said anything about a so-called "perfect solution?"

You want to "repair" (whatever that means) and sustain the State?