Mitt Romney is honored to have the endorsement of Rand Paul

[anaconda]

Rand's ice os thinning with me..he better use this political capital being gained for some heroic stands on the senate floor.

Oh, he will...

 

[Lishy]

I'm not going to give up either. We all have to stay optimistic.

What we SHOULD be doing should be to get clarification on Rand's position, rather than saying he's the devil!

Rand's votes have been pretty good so far. As much of a shock that this is, I genuinely believe something is going on behind the scenes!

People like Alex Jones should be all over this.. And since Rand frequently goes on Infowars, I'm sure we'll hear his answers soon enough!

Whether you hate him or like him, Jones wont let Rand off the hook easily for endorsing Romney!

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Heresy I say!

 

[RonPaulwillWin]

I'm not going to give up either. We all have to stay optimistic.

What we SHOULD be doing should be to get clarification on Rand's position, rather than saying he's the devil!

Rand's votes have been pretty good so far. As much of a shock that this is, I genuinely believe something is going on behind the scenes!

People like Alex Jones should be all over this.. And since Rand frequently goes on Infowars, I'm sure we'll hear his answers soon enough!

Whether you hate him or like him, Jones wont let Rand off the hook easily for endorsing Romney!

I don't alex jones that much but you made a good point.

 

[Agorism]

Politico hails son's endorsement of Mitt Romney as the sign that the Ron Paul 2012 campaign is "really, truly over"

 

[sailingaway]

Not when he's the party's nominee. It sucks that he was for it but either way it looks like we're going to have a President that supported the bailouts.

I try to be an optimist (in the long run anyway) I guess.

He isn't nominee. Why would he not wait until after the convention when Ron will be nominated from the floor, and Rand as delegate will have to vote for either Ron or Romney?

 

[Agorism]

This one might be better?

 

[Lishy]

I don't alex jones that much but you made a good point.

I'm not a big fan of Infowars either. But as far as I know, Alex Jones is friends with Rand, and he guests on the Alex Jones Show every so often. If anyone is able to confront him on this issue, it should be that stubborn guy who knows him!

 

[No1butPaul]

Rand Paul (before)



Maybe that was the deal ... Republicans agreed to let this come up for a vote in exchange for Rand's endorsement. Who knows.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Rand... I really hope he is just trying to co-op the neocons. Otherwise we need a new candidate for 2016/2020.

 

[JustinL]

Well this is interesting. Says a lot about Rand Paul's play style. I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing, he is who he is and this just shows what types of games he's willing to play. It certainly would make a better ticket with him being VP than someone else getting the VP spot. As this seems to open the door for him possibly being on the VP short list. That being said I still will absolutely not vote for Mitt Romney, but I'd prefer Romney/Paul over Obama/Biden I think. Regardless as has been said, THIS CHANGES NOTHING, PROCEED WITH CONVENTION PLANS TO SHAKE THINGS UP and keep fighting for delegate slots and to try to convert any other non-Paul delegates you can that will listen to you. Forget this Rand crap for now, let him play that game (don't forget he may soften some resistance to us influencing people away from Romney towards liberty ideas!) while he lets us do the uncompromising fight for liberty and Ron Paul towards and at the convention. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!

 

[Marky]

Well, Rand will soon have blood on his hands when Romney starts bombing and spending us into oblivion. I’d rather endorse George W. Bush than Romney. Anybody remember his answer to that Palestinian guy’s question at one of the debates…If he wins, he will be the most hardcore Israel-firster to ever take office. The guy has all but said he wants to bomb Iran and he cheered on the bailouts. Everything about Mitt screams “asshole”.

Romney is an evil evil man…pretty much a human devil. To hell with him, the GOP, and anybody who endorses this scumbag.

 

[Warmon]

I know I'll be in a minority here, but I'm thrilled--seriously...

Interesting observations and a well written post. I haven't made it through this entire thread yet, but Rand's face did not look like he was wanting to do this. He was obviously nervous and not at all happy. A deal has been made and no way did Rand do this behind Ron's back or without his consent.

 

[cheapseats]

...Says a lot about Rand Paul's play style...he is who he is and this just shows what types of games he's willing to play.

Yes, indeedy.

Regardless as has been said, THIS CHANGES NOTHING...

Then why DO it, and why do it NOW?

Rand Paul is politically SAVVY, isn't that the party line? Then he'da KNOWN this would set off a shit-storm, right? Right.

Can you guess why?

 

[cheapseats]

Well, Rand will soon have blood on his hands when Romney starts bombing and spending us into oblivion...

B-b-but...after THAT killing is done and Rand is in GOOD GRACES with the War Mongers, he will be able to persuade them of the evil of their ways. Which they will suddenly RECOGNIZE as Truth & Righteousness, and promptly cease their war profiteering.

OR b-b-but...Romney won't win ANYWAY, so fret not.

In which case...why did Rand Paul HONOR Mitt Romney with an early AND unnecessary endorsement, turbo-charged by expressed intent to also CAMPAIGN for the man? I mean, who wants to back a LOSER? That wouldn't be politically SAVVY.

 

[cheapseats]

I guess the apple fell pretty far from the tree with this one.

Apples DO sometimes roll a considerable distance.

 

[JustinL]

Then why DO it, and why do it NOW?

Rand Paul is politically SAVVY, isn't that the party line? Then he'da KNOWN this would set off a shit-storm, right? Right.

Can you guess why?

Sorry for the delayed response, I meant it doesn't change what we should be doing for Ron Paul and the liberty movement. Obviously it changes things for him and what people think of Rand Paul. I guess if someone was working to get Rand Paul specifically into presidency or something things could change for them. But as for pushing for liberty and Ron Paul, this didn't change that.

 

[cheapseats]

Sorry for the delayed response, I meant it doesn't change what we should be doing for Ron Paul and the liberty movement. Obviously it changes things for him and what people think of Rand Paul.

No worries.

Agreed.

I guess if someone was working to get Rand Paul specifically into presidency or something things could change for them.

In America, American Politics is a CREDIBLE CAREER CHOICE.

Rand Paul, by a stroke of luck at birth, has a leg up in a country with a pronounced tendency to REVERE famous families, in and OUT of politics.

Kennedy, Barrymore, Bush, Rockefeller, Clinton. Consider that John McCain and Joe Biden BOTH have "eligible" sons in the wings, and that Jenna Bush married a ROVE protege. Consider JESSE JACKSON JR. before being too eager to embrace "heirs to thrones".

Rand Paul is not any ol' offspring, even in Lake Nepotism. On the death of his father, Luke Russert leapfrogged seasoned journalists tp become WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT when the ink on his diploma was still wet. U.S. Senator is a bigger deal than White House Correspondent.

He is POSITIONED. Good for him. Go, go, go! Remember your roots...don't become an Asshole. Steer clear of Racists, if you wanna transition from Redneck State to National Boss.

We WANT more better people THROUGHOUT Government. We want a goddamn SURPLUS of ethical, intelligent people. Note Ethics PRECEDES Intelligence, when it comes to LORDING OVER PEOPLE.

Choices have ramifications. What Rand Paul and nobody else is gonna pull off is game-playing with Hardright Republicans and Neoconservatives, and also lead the Liberty Moovement. It is as farfetched as aiming to be a professional ball player AND an astronaut.

But as for pushing for liberty and Ron Paul, this didn't change that.

It kinda DID, in that it brings into stark relief the LOGICAL division in Ron Paul Support. Libertarians marching forward shoulder-to-shoulder with Hardright Republicans AIN'T HAPPENING, any more than Hardright Republicans will bond with Progressives. And the Republican Party IS tacking Hardright.

FOREWARNED IS FOREARMED. We needn't panic, and we SURELY should not sweep our growing pains under the carpet.

If after all this...I've been at it for YEARS now, others for DECADES...if we "must" still operate crouched in FEAR...what have we accomplished? Living in fear is dreadful.

The endorsement changes NOTHING about the Delegate Strategy leading UP to Tampa...ACQUISITION is the name of the game.

I am unclear whether the endorsement changes the the Delegate Strategy IN Tampa, partly because I am unclear about the ORIGINAL plan in Tampa. I am unclear whether the Festival is a touchy-feely communion of like-minded people, congratulating each other on a great effort and commiserating over a heartbreaking loss, or whether something BIG is meant to HAPPEN in Tampa.

It's a dilemma. No one wants violence or mayhem or tragedy (except maybe some Official Sadists) but, at the same time, a kum-bay-yah love-fest would be, in my opinion, THE anticlimax of this whole Election Season. But then I'm not a kum-bay-yah love-fest kinda person.