Mitt Romney is honored to have the endorsement of Rand Paul

Rand Paul should take a lesson from Henry Herford on how to take one for the team.
 
Romney watched Paul in every debate with light bulbs going off over his head and with respect in his gaze. Perhaps he has actually learned something from the Doctor. He would not be the first to turn their philosophy in a dime after hearing RP make bloody sense.

Rev9
 
Stridently disagree.







I believe the marriage of ELECTING PRO-LIBERTY CANDIDATES and PLAYING NICE WITH THE GOP is textbook for both FALSE DICHOTOMY and ROPE A DOPE.








Precisely why joining them to beat them is an exercise in futility.

Is the measure of the power of our movement simply a Success or Failure option for the presidency? We are not joining them by any means, we have infiltrated them on almost every level. the measure of our power will not be an instant on or off to our policies, but a gradual change towards them. this will never be over.

even if Ron was the president tomorrow he alone wouldn't be able to right the ship, it would still take local state and national congress to support the things we support. it goes together and it always will when we fix the foundation of the failing structure from the bottom up our sucess will be much more easily measured than having done it from the top down.

Not saying that our little insurgency plan won't pay off. but don't use the hard work that myself and thousands of other delegates chairmen and local leader have as evidence of collusion or futility.
 
I know I'll be in a minority here, but I'm thrilled--seriously. It shows that Ron and Rand (and don't think even for 1/1000th of a second that Rand endorsed Mitt Romney against his father's wishes) are aiming to make themselves long-term powerful players for liberty in the political process rather than those who just whine from the outside.

Ron's 2008 campaign was a glorious disaster (to quote from the title of a book about Barry Goldwater's run). It ignited a liberty movement in the GOP against the full weight of the party establishment. My participation in that campaign was a very proud moment for me. In 2012, the campaign had a much better delegate strategy-- even though it ultimately didn't pan out because Romney eliminated all non-RP competition before the convention.

We are in a position to be major players in the future of the Republican party, moving it in a pro-freedom direction. That won't be accomplished in one election, and it won't be accomplished by refusing to endorse the GOP's nominee for President, even if most RP supporters don't care for him. Ron Paul was never going to be President-- that wasn't why he ran. By Rand's endorsement, he is proving that he is willing to be a part of the GOP team, and it ensures that he and the RP movement will have a major place at the table in a Romney administration. Or, if Romney loses, it establishes Rand as a major player in the 2016 campaign for President. If Rand doesn't endorse Romney, neither of those things are remotely possible.

There are times to fight-- and we did that plenty of times-- and there are also times to cooperate because that is the best strategy for advancing your goals. Right now, the Freedom movement is best served by cooperating with the GOP nominee-- and spending most of our energy electing Pro-liberty candidates down the ballot. We will have plenty of times to fight in the future-- but in politics just as in foreign affairs, perpetual war for the sake of perpetual peace is a losing strategy

So well put...
 
Tom Woods guest hosts the Peter Schiff Show. After interviewing Sen. Rand Paul, Woods rips into compromising for the lesser of two evils and offers Ron Paul support in standing on principle.

 
Ok, wait a minute. What exactly did he say? Does anyone know? What Angel quoted in her article was something Rand said earlier to something that Obama had said about Romney and was taken completely out of context.

There is a video at the OP link.
 
...there is nothing wrong with a Republican Senator who represents a set of free market principles supporting Romney.


Correct. It is now indisputably a REPUBLICAN thing.




All change is going to happen within the two parties and that's the way it should be,


That there is one CREEPY level of indoctrination.




...unless you want Hitler some crazy union boss as president.


If it isn't TWO parties, it's ONE? You are an Overlord's DREAM.



Assimilating the liberty movement within the Republican party will be what moves the country back in the right direction.

More liberty-leaning Republicans in the Republican Par-taaay WOULD help move the country back in the right direction. Ditto, more reality-based Democrats in the Democratic Par-taaay. It is GOOD for America if both parties field better people. It is even better for America if MORE THAN TWO parties field good people.

DUOPOLIES are not good, generally speaking. TWO-PARTY STRANGLEHOLDS are clearly bad.




And to me Rand Paul bridges more gaps than anyone. He can appeal to so many people without compromising core principles.


He can appeal to many REPUBLICANS, apparently even if he DOES compromise.





For the rest of us who don't plan on sea steading your advice isn't going to have the desired effect.


got non sequiturs?
 
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“I am honored to have earned the endorsement of Rand Paul..."

How on earth did he "earn" this endorsement ... a private assurance is the only possible conclusion. How does the saying go, "you shall know them by their deeds?" What a JOKE!!!!!
 
I can hardly wait until the $Billionaire rules over me. It has got to be better than a King!
 
Romney watched Paul in every debate with light bulbs going off over his head and with respect in his gaze. Perhaps he has actually learned something from the Doctor. He would not be the first to turn their philosophy in a dime after hearing RP make bloody sense.

Rev9

He smirked and laughed at Ron in the 2007-2008 debates and the message was the same. Romney likely only cares now because he sees the tide shifting. My fear is that Romney is a total bought and paid for tool. His establishment talking points and fickle history, combined with the the payback for campaign money make it a virtual certainty.
 
He knows its NOBP, and he knows Mitts won't win, but he's made a gamble. He just doubled down on VP. He's trying to be the Sarah Palin of 2016
 
If you can't see what's going on here then I feel sorry for you. This is a good thing for the movement.

I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that the bankers and Bilderberg types are actually NOT happy about this "endorsement." This means they are stuck with Rand on the inside instead of being able to label him as "fringe" and be rid of him. They left the barn door open, Rand stepped through. This was a sleight of hand by Rand. He's going to pull the entire base his way and go to war with the establishment.
 
Correct. It is now indisputably a REPUBLICAN thing.

That there is one CREEPY level of indoctrination.

If it isn't TWO parties, it's ONE? You are an Overlord's DREAM.
More liberty-leaning Republicans in the Republican Par-taaay WOULD help move the country back in the right direction. Ditto, more reality-based Democrats in the Democratic Par-taaay. It is GOOD for America if both parties field better people. It is even better for America if MORE THAN TWO parties field good people.

DUOPOLIES are not good, generally speaking. TWO-PARTY STRANGLEHOLDS are clearly bad.

He can appeal to many REPUBLICANS, apparently even if he DOES compromise.


got non sequiturs?
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There is a reason Ron Paul runs as a Republican. Its fine if you want to vote for candidates that get .01% of the vote. I would prefer my values get absorbed into someone who could win elections.
 
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He knows its NOBP, and he knows Mitts won't win, but he's made a gamble. He just doubled down on VP. He's trying to be the Sarah Palin of 2016

I don't think this is his plan. I think he expects Mittens to lose and is using this time to build his brand to the GOP base. Although he may be planning a challenge to Mittens in 2016 if he is VP and the Republicans win in 2012.
 
After tonight's Benedict Arnold/Judas statement by Rand Paul would anyone in the Liberty Movement ever donate one nickel to Rand Paul's reelection to the US Senate in four years or to a Presidential Run in four years.

Not me, not ever.

This has been the worst 25 days in the history of the Liberty Movement, from the infamous "Official" Campaign E-Mail of Monday, May 14th by our Genius's of Political Strategy, Jesse and John to tonight's betrayal by Rand Paul.

The Liberty Movement needs to begin to look beyond the Paul family to branch out and expand. Ron and Rand need to really reflect on what their actions have done in the last 25 days to damage the very Movement they love.

Many from the College Student's to the Old-Timer's are bewildered and devastated by what the Paul's have done.

What a dark time Liberty Loving Supporters are witnessing.
 
Tom Woods guest hosts the Peter Schiff Show. After interviewing Sen. Rand Paul, Woods rips into compromising for the lesser of two evils and offers Ron Paul support in standing on principle.



Damn... it stings us all but this was probably the right move. Rand is probably wise enough to see Obama will win and 2016 could be his time.

There seems to be a lot of moving parts to this that are still unclear...
 
No doubt this has been a shock to all of us and we are reacting as such because we are passionate not only about Dr. Paul, but about what he has taught us and to move such forward....but stop and think about the last the couple weeks. Something happened. I am not going to speculate what, but I seriously doubt that Rand went against his dad. We have only had a glimpse of Dr Paul these past years - Rand grew up with him - everyday! - loves him! Could any of us truly love or understand him more?! I am not saying that we should throw in the towel. In fact we should PROCEED AS PLANNED. This is not the time to be wishy-washy. We have committed to a goal with our minds, hearts, and wallets and we need to follow thru. I think Dr Paul is COUNTING on this...and therefore US. There are a lot of things that remain to be seen, & a lot can happen. I don't know that anyone can tell any of us what to do, but I do know that perseverance is in order for all of us. In any army everyone has an assignment, and all lead to a specific goal. If certain parts of that army doubt their commander and go their own way it injures the whole. So regardless of what Rand has stated (and please note that he told SH)(?????) we should proceed as planned. I am. I'm not going to panic. For the first time in my life I am sure about something and I'm not going to give it up as easily as some of you seem to have done. I believe in what Ron Paul has taught us, and I am in this for the long run. If I am willing to do such WHY WOULDN"T HIS SON?!!!
 
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