No1butPaul
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Rand Paul should take a lesson from Henry Herford on how to take one for the team.
Stridently disagree.
I believe the marriage of ELECTING PRO-LIBERTY CANDIDATES and PLAYING NICE WITH THE GOP is textbook for both FALSE DICHOTOMY and ROPE A DOPE.
Precisely why joining them to beat them is an exercise in futility.
I know I'll be in a minority here, but I'm thrilled--seriously. It shows that Ron and Rand (and don't think even for 1/1000th of a second that Rand endorsed Mitt Romney against his father's wishes) are aiming to make themselves long-term powerful players for liberty in the political process rather than those who just whine from the outside.
Ron's 2008 campaign was a glorious disaster (to quote from the title of a book about Barry Goldwater's run). It ignited a liberty movement in the GOP against the full weight of the party establishment. My participation in that campaign was a very proud moment for me. In 2012, the campaign had a much better delegate strategy-- even though it ultimately didn't pan out because Romney eliminated all non-RP competition before the convention.
We are in a position to be major players in the future of the Republican party, moving it in a pro-freedom direction. That won't be accomplished in one election, and it won't be accomplished by refusing to endorse the GOP's nominee for President, even if most RP supporters don't care for him. Ron Paul was never going to be President-- that wasn't why he ran. By Rand's endorsement, he is proving that he is willing to be a part of the GOP team, and it ensures that he and the RP movement will have a major place at the table in a Romney administration. Or, if Romney loses, it establishes Rand as a major player in the 2016 campaign for President. If Rand doesn't endorse Romney, neither of those things are remotely possible.
There are times to fight-- and we did that plenty of times-- and there are also times to cooperate because that is the best strategy for advancing your goals. Right now, the Freedom movement is best served by cooperating with the GOP nominee-- and spending most of our energy electing Pro-liberty candidates down the ballot. We will have plenty of times to fight in the future-- but in politics just as in foreign affairs, perpetual war for the sake of perpetual peace is a losing strategy
Ok, wait a minute. What exactly did he say? Does anyone know? What Angel quoted in her article was something Rand said earlier to something that Obama had said about Romney and was taken completely out of context.
...there is nothing wrong with a Republican Senator who represents a set of free market principles supporting Romney.
All change is going to happen within the two parties and that's the way it should be,
...unless you want Hitler some crazy union boss as president.
Assimilating the liberty movement within the Republican party will be what moves the country back in the right direction.
And to me Rand Paul bridges more gaps than anyone. He can appeal to so many people without compromising core principles.
For the rest of us who don't plan on sea steading your advice isn't going to have the desired effect.
Romney watched Paul in every debate with light bulbs going off over his head and with respect in his gaze. Perhaps he has actually learned something from the Doctor. He would not be the first to turn their philosophy in a dime after hearing RP make bloody sense.
Rev9
If you can't see what's going on here then I feel sorry for you. This is a good thing for the movement.
.Correct. It is now indisputably a REPUBLICAN thing.
That there is one CREEPY level of indoctrination.
If it isn't TWO parties, it's ONE? You are an Overlord's DREAM.
More liberty-leaning Republicans in the Republican Par-taaay WOULD help move the country back in the right direction. Ditto, more reality-based Democrats in the Democratic Par-taaay. It is GOOD for America if both parties field better people. It is even better for America if MORE THAN TWO parties field good people.
DUOPOLIES are not good, generally speaking. TWO-PARTY STRANGLEHOLDS are clearly bad.
He can appeal to many REPUBLICANS, apparently even if he DOES compromise.
got non sequiturs?
He knows its NOBP, and he knows Mitts won't win, but he's made a gamble. He just doubled down on VP. He's trying to be the Sarah Palin of 2016
Tom Woods guest hosts the Peter Schiff Show. After interviewing Sen. Rand Paul, Woods rips into compromising for the lesser of two evils and offers Ron Paul support in standing on principle.