[Milei WINS!] Javier Milei, Austrian econ. prof. & ancap, runs for president of Argentina
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'Argentina has non-negotiable sovereignty over the Falklands', country's new right-wing president Javier Milei declares
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/javier-mi...s-sovereignty/
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Argentina Will Not Join BRICS In January
https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/11/21/argentina-will-not-join-brics-in-january/
https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2023/11/21/argentina-will-not-join-brics-in-january/
Yep. You guys got me.
I also let the Klan do my thinking because I tell my children to avoid groups of black men at night.
Find a new line of attack and maybe I'll care.
Says the guy who constantly quotes what others have said instead of relying on your own arguments.
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You haven't even bothered to quote relevant arguments. Basically all you've said is, if Ben Shapiro says the sky is blue it must have turned purple.
I'll see your Shapiro and raise you with Maduro.
Which of these broken clocks just happens to be right, right this minute?
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He specifically mentions that he is seeking a diplomatic resolution, it would be insane for Argentina to try to fight Britain. And of course it's ridiculous for Britain to exert control over the Falklands which is literally right off the coast of Argentina and is thousands of miles away from Britain.
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FTA (bold emphasis added):
In that context Mr Milei's position could be seen as relatively conciliatory. He even praised Margaret Thatcher, Britain's Conservative prime minister who launched the UK military response to Argentina's invasion.
Mrs Thatcher, still hated by many for ordering the navy to fire on the Belgrano warship, was described by Mr Milei as "one the great leaders in the history of humanity” during his campaign.
Mr Milei, 53, said in the debate: "We had a war – that we lost – and now we have to make every effort to recover the islands through diplomatic channels."
*sigh* Apparently, "diplomatic[ally]" now means "forcibly" to some people:Still waiting ...
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The way that story is reported does make it seem that Milei has a suspiciously low regard for the self determination of the people living in Falklands. The island doesn't belong to Argentina or the UK. It belongs to the people living there.
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I doubt they're dumb enough not to ask themselves whether Milei or Great Britain is more likely to dump a few thousand Palestinians there.
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Agreed 100%.
I'd even go as far to say that not even Argentina (let alone the Falklands) belongs to (the government of) Argentina.
If Falklanders prefer to attach themselves to Britain rather than Argentina, then that's their business, and Argentina ought to respect their wishes. But the Falklanders can't make Britain keep them if Britain doesn't want them, or if it is willing to "give them up", so to speak, as part of some agreement with Argentina. Seeking such a diplomatic (re)disposition of the Falklands with the UK is not forcibly interventionist.
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I talked with my Argentine friend today and got more context. Milei wasn't his first choice, but when the runoff came and his opponent was the sleaziest politician he could imagine, he went for Milei. (Originally, he was concerned that Milei was just a showman and was interested in increasing his celebrity status.)
But already, Milei is making big waves. He plans on levelling with the Argentine public in early December to let them know how bad things really are. He's warning everyone that the transition will be swift and painful with no half measures - but when the country emerges out the other side, they will be freer and more prosperous.
His plan involves privatizing most of the services being run by the government and selling off the assets to pay down the damage done by previous administrations.
Here, the results of his plan to privatize the national oil company:
Argentina oil company YPF spikes 40% as investors cheer president-elect Milei's promises to revamp the economy
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/argentina-oil-company-ypf-spikes-40-as-investors-cheer-president-elect-mileis-promises-to-revamp-the-economy/ar-AA1kfAfV
My friend tells me that his country is aware of the pain they're about to feel, but they're braced for it. In the long run, they'd rather endure a quick pull of the Band-Aid rather than the ongoing corruption that's robbing them blind.
ETA: He also mentioned that Milei is getting rid of the current crop of ambassadors that were appointed based on their political connections and is putting people in place who are leaders in business in their fields. The idea being to get rid of the corruption and get the ambassadors focused on trade.
But already, Milei is making big waves. He plans on levelling with the Argentine public in early December to let them know how bad things really are. He's warning everyone that the transition will be swift and painful with no half measures - but when the country emerges out the other side, they will be freer and more prosperous.
His plan involves privatizing most of the services being run by the government and selling off the assets to pay down the damage done by previous administrations.
Here, the results of his plan to privatize the national oil company:
Argentina oil company YPF spikes 40% as investors cheer president-elect Milei's promises to revamp the economy
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/argentina-oil-company-ypf-spikes-40-as-investors-cheer-president-elect-mileis-promises-to-revamp-the-economy/ar-AA1kfAfV
My friend tells me that his country is aware of the pain they're about to feel, but they're braced for it. In the long run, they'd rather endure a quick pull of the Band-Aid rather than the ongoing corruption that's robbing them blind.
ETA: He also mentioned that Milei is getting rid of the current crop of ambassadors that were appointed based on their political connections and is putting people in place who are leaders in business in their fields. The idea being to get rid of the corruption and get the ambassadors focused on trade.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaptUSA again.
As I suspected:
That is good news.
Purging the poison in the system is going to hurt.
It would have been a serious mistake to blow sunshine up peoples' asses about that fact by ignoring or soft pedaling the unpleasant side-effects of the antidote.
That is even better news!
As I discussed before:I am greatly heartened by your friend's remarks. Thank you for posting them!
As I suspected:
That is good news.
Purging the poison in the system is going to hurt.
It would have been a serious mistake to blow sunshine up peoples' asses about that fact by ignoring or soft pedaling the unpleasant side-effects of the antidote.
That is even better news!
As I discussed before:I am greatly heartened by your friend's remarks. Thank you for posting them!
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The United States Needs Its Own Javier Milei
https://mises.org/wire/united-states-needs-its-own-javier-milei
{Connor O'Keeffe | 22 November 2023}
On Sunday, the populist Austrolibertarian Javier Milei was elected president of Argentina. In the United States, the reaction ranged from concerned curiosity on the part of the political establishment to enthusiastic celebration across the populist Right—including, notably, some economic nationalists. Several renowned libertarians also brought attention to some of Milei’s many flaws, such as his views on geopolitics.
Milei’s libertarian skeptics make many good points. And odds are a man with a legislature stacked against him will not be able to address Argentina’s many problems without some political backup. But still, there is much to admire about Milei’s rise and plenty to learn from his campaign’s bold, spirited rhetoric. Because our country is also in desperate need of a similar course change.
Many Americans are in a tough spot right now. Eighty years of inflationist monetary policy has made life more expensive. And the heavy government involvement in many of the most important sectors—including healthcare, housing, education, and energy—has made it harder for younger Americans to afford the same lifestyles as previous generations.
Further, the Federal Reserve’s manipulation of interest rates has left the American people heavily in debt, low on savings, and forced to weather the recurring nightmare of the boom-bust cycle. Meanwhile, as Washington’s decades of foreign intervention predictably blow up in its face, politicians are calling on the American people to fork over an ever-increasing amount of money in the futile effort to sustain an unchecked global empire. All while, at home, the government remains unable or unwilling to protect the lives and property of millions of Americans.
We may not yet have a poverty rate over 40 percent or inflation north of 140 percent like Argentina, but we’re on a trajectory that leads straight to that kind of economic ruin. It doesn’t have to be this way. We know the way out.
That way involves dissolving the politicized monetary system and returning to a system of sound money—where prices and interest rates are determined by economic realities, not the whims of bureaucrats. That can only be achieved with a total abolishment of the cartelized banking system. Depoliticizing money and banking would put the American people back in control of their own money for the first time in over a century and bring an end to permanent inflation and ceaseless recessions.
We ought to end the disastrous policies, regulations, and departments that have constrained the supply of housing and energy and that have made education and healthcare services prohibitively expensive.
And, crucially, we need to put an end to Washington’s drive for a globe-spanning empire. The American people have been forced to fund coups, bombing campaigns, and full-on wars that have killed millions and made the world less stable. History is full of empires overextending themselves and collapsing. Let’s opt out of our own downfall.
Javier Milei has demonstrated, as Ron Paul did before, that it is possible to get millions of people to understand the necessity of radical liberty and to get them energized about it. And that’s important, because the political class is never going to give up any power unless a strong grassroots movement leaves them no choice.
Milei’s victory reiterates that liberty can win. But it requires strong, uncompromising voices that can speak to regular people about their most pressing problems and offer a compelling vision of a freer, safer, and wealthier future.
https://mises.org/wire/united-states-needs-its-own-javier-milei
{Connor O'Keeffe | 22 November 2023}
On Sunday, the populist Austrolibertarian Javier Milei was elected president of Argentina. In the United States, the reaction ranged from concerned curiosity on the part of the political establishment to enthusiastic celebration across the populist Right—including, notably, some economic nationalists. Several renowned libertarians also brought attention to some of Milei’s many flaws, such as his views on geopolitics.
Milei’s libertarian skeptics make many good points. And odds are a man with a legislature stacked against him will not be able to address Argentina’s many problems without some political backup. But still, there is much to admire about Milei’s rise and plenty to learn from his campaign’s bold, spirited rhetoric. Because our country is also in desperate need of a similar course change.
Many Americans are in a tough spot right now. Eighty years of inflationist monetary policy has made life more expensive. And the heavy government involvement in many of the most important sectors—including healthcare, housing, education, and energy—has made it harder for younger Americans to afford the same lifestyles as previous generations.
Further, the Federal Reserve’s manipulation of interest rates has left the American people heavily in debt, low on savings, and forced to weather the recurring nightmare of the boom-bust cycle. Meanwhile, as Washington’s decades of foreign intervention predictably blow up in its face, politicians are calling on the American people to fork over an ever-increasing amount of money in the futile effort to sustain an unchecked global empire. All while, at home, the government remains unable or unwilling to protect the lives and property of millions of Americans.
We may not yet have a poverty rate over 40 percent or inflation north of 140 percent like Argentina, but we’re on a trajectory that leads straight to that kind of economic ruin. It doesn’t have to be this way. We know the way out.
That way involves dissolving the politicized monetary system and returning to a system of sound money—where prices and interest rates are determined by economic realities, not the whims of bureaucrats. That can only be achieved with a total abolishment of the cartelized banking system. Depoliticizing money and banking would put the American people back in control of their own money for the first time in over a century and bring an end to permanent inflation and ceaseless recessions.
We ought to end the disastrous policies, regulations, and departments that have constrained the supply of housing and energy and that have made education and healthcare services prohibitively expensive.
And, crucially, we need to put an end to Washington’s drive for a globe-spanning empire. The American people have been forced to fund coups, bombing campaigns, and full-on wars that have killed millions and made the world less stable. History is full of empires overextending themselves and collapsing. Let’s opt out of our own downfall.
Javier Milei has demonstrated, as Ron Paul did before, that it is possible to get millions of people to understand the necessity of radical liberty and to get them energized about it. And that’s important, because the political class is never going to give up any power unless a strong grassroots movement leaves them no choice.
Milei’s victory reiterates that liberty can win. But it requires strong, uncompromising voices that can speak to regular people about their most pressing problems and offer a compelling vision of a freer, safer, and wealthier future.
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https://twitter.com/Casey5122dark/status/1727287181209682421
{Gerard Casey @Casey5122dark | 22 November 2023}
The Guardian published a critical, some might even say hostile, article [21 November 2023] on Javier Milei, the victor in Argentina’s Presidential election. What a shock! You can read it for yourself in the link below.
I just want to discuss one point made in this article. Its author, Uki Goñi writes, “The generals had studied the works of Italian Marxist thinker Antonio Gramsci, who argued that the revolutionary left would need to obtain cultural hegemony to achieve its ends. From this seed, the generals developed a conspiracy theory, not unlike the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, that Marxists had infiltrated universities, Hollywood and the Catholic church, to undermine “our western and Christian way of life”. The 'cultural Marxism’ conspiracy theory can be heard in the US and the UK today. During an interview with Tucker Carlson in September, Milei channelled the 1970s killer generals almost verbatim. Communists 'have no problem with getting inside the state and employing Gramsci’s techniques', Milei told Carlson.”
Let’s put to one side the crude ‘guilt by association’ technique of mentioning The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the reference to ‘killer generals' and isolate the main point of this passage. According to Goñi, the Generals and Milei share a belief in the existence of a Gramscianesque conspiracy theory that the revolutionary left seek to achieve cultural hegemony as a means to its goal, the destruction of our Western and Christian way of life, by infiltrating our major social institutions, including the universities, Hollywood and the Catholic Church.
The essence of a conspiracy, one might think, is that its existence and its effects should be hidden from the gaze of the vulgar. But there is nothing whatsoever secret about the woke/leftist takeover of academia, its dominance in Hollywood, and its increasingly obvious presence in the Catholic Church, [the latter] due in no small part to the activities of another Argentinian. Nor is woke/leftist dominance in the mainstream media, the legal profession, the civil service and most political parties a matter of secrecy but rather something that is plainly evident.
Whether ‘cultural Marxism’ is the best or even an accurate term for this woke/leftism is an issue that can be left to the deliberation and judgement of scholars. What is beyond dispute it that, whatever it may be called, what we have here is a socio-political strategy, a very successful socio-political strategy, but one that is not now a conspiracy, if indeed it ever was.
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[Link:] https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ader-extreme-abortion-gay-rights-javier-milei
{Gerard Casey @Casey5122dark | 22 November 2023}
The Guardian published a critical, some might even say hostile, article [21 November 2023] on Javier Milei, the victor in Argentina’s Presidential election. What a shock! You can read it for yourself in the link below.
I just want to discuss one point made in this article. Its author, Uki Goñi writes, “The generals had studied the works of Italian Marxist thinker Antonio Gramsci, who argued that the revolutionary left would need to obtain cultural hegemony to achieve its ends. From this seed, the generals developed a conspiracy theory, not unlike the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, that Marxists had infiltrated universities, Hollywood and the Catholic church, to undermine “our western and Christian way of life”. The 'cultural Marxism’ conspiracy theory can be heard in the US and the UK today. During an interview with Tucker Carlson in September, Milei channelled the 1970s killer generals almost verbatim. Communists 'have no problem with getting inside the state and employing Gramsci’s techniques', Milei told Carlson.”
Let’s put to one side the crude ‘guilt by association’ technique of mentioning The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the reference to ‘killer generals' and isolate the main point of this passage. According to Goñi, the Generals and Milei share a belief in the existence of a Gramscianesque conspiracy theory that the revolutionary left seek to achieve cultural hegemony as a means to its goal, the destruction of our Western and Christian way of life, by infiltrating our major social institutions, including the universities, Hollywood and the Catholic Church.
The essence of a conspiracy, one might think, is that its existence and its effects should be hidden from the gaze of the vulgar. But there is nothing whatsoever secret about the woke/leftist takeover of academia, its dominance in Hollywood, and its increasingly obvious presence in the Catholic Church, [the latter] due in no small part to the activities of another Argentinian. Nor is woke/leftist dominance in the mainstream media, the legal profession, the civil service and most political parties a matter of secrecy but rather something that is plainly evident.
Whether ‘cultural Marxism’ is the best or even an accurate term for this woke/leftism is an issue that can be left to the deliberation and judgement of scholars. What is beyond dispute it that, whatever it may be called, what we have here is a socio-political strategy, a very successful socio-political strategy, but one that is not now a conspiracy, if indeed it ever was.
[...]
[Link:] https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ader-extreme-abortion-gay-rights-javier-milei
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Been looking for a vacation destination to try out my 4 wheel drive. 2012 Tacoma and I've used the 4WD maybe twice.
They really went for "muh roads" as a literal talking point?
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