Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States...

[nikcers]

Immigration is a government program.. and I have actually seen figures that show that second and third generation immigrants are even more likely to vote for the left than first.

I guess you didn't reply to me because you didn't want to argue against your own chart?

 

[dannno]

I guess you didn't reply to me because you didn't want to argue against your own chart?

No, I replied in part to your post as well, with regards to 2nd and 3rd generation.

As far as the beginning of your post, the question they asked appears to be at the top of the chart. It's pretty simple.

As far as the data I've seen showing 2nd and 3rd generation being more socialist, I believe it was how many vote Democrat vs. Republican or something. So apparently the first generation immigrants like more government the most, but the 3rd generation actually tend to vote that way more often.

 

[nikcers]

As far as the data I've seen showing 2nd and 3rd generation being more socialist, I believe it was how many vote Democrat vs. Republican or something.

Dude I am not trying to godwins law you, i just want to see the data. Pictures or it doesn't happen.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

17% of the population does not comprise a majority. And in a Republic a majority should not matter anyway.

If wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets, amirite, #wishfulthinker?

 

[nikcers]

If wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets, amirite, #wishfulthinker?

Yeah but if you look at the data the people coming here is going down statistically. If the chart above is accurate, which it probably isn't then by default less first generational people will be here and more 3rd generational people would be here over time. Therefore its not a wise investment for the republican party to rule these voters out before they are even born by double downing on being the old white mans party and building a wall between their country of origin and ours.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Yeah but if you look at the data the people coming here is going down statistically. If the chart above is accurate, which it probably isn't then by default less first generational people will be here and more 3rd generational people would be here over time. Therefore its not a wise investment for the republican party to rule these voters out before they are even born by double downing on being the old white mans party and building a wall between their country of origin and ours.

I was referring to the bolded part-And in a Republic a majority should not matter anyway. My brother makes a correct claim WRT the "ought" of things, but it doesn't jive with the "is" of things.

 

[fcreature]

Doubtful. The phone lines were clogged with RPF members calling their love babe, Hillary.

Liar.

 

[dannno]

Dude I am not trying to godwins law you, i just want to see the data. Pictures or it doesn't happen.

Stefan Molyneux had it in one of his dozens of presentations (30-90+ minutes) on the topic. I don't remember which one, but I do know he cites all his sources. If I come across it again I will be sure to post it. Maybe even make a new thread just for you.

 

[nikcers]

Stefan Molyneux had it in one of his dozens of presentations (30-90+ minutes) on the topic. I don't remember which one, but I do know he cites all his sources. If I come across it again I will be sure to post it. Maybe even make a new thread just for you.

I know exactly what you mean, I know I saw direct evidence of the government causing 9/11 in one of those 90 minute long conspiracy theory videos, but it seems to be gone no matter where I look. I get all my information from 90 minute long youtube videos, because everything else gets scrubbed from the internet by alphabet companies. Some of the best true stories I have seen were on videos that youtube automatically played after a ron paul video.

 

[dannno]

I know exactly what you mean, I know I saw direct evidence of the government causing 9/11 in one of those 90 minute long conspiracy theory videos, but it seems to be gone no matter where I look. I get all my information from 90 minute long youtube videos, because everything else gets scrubbed from the internet by alphabet companies. Some of the best true stories I have seen were on videos that youtube automatically played after a ron paul video.

What was the 9/11 evidence? You aren't even being specific. I'm saying he put up a chart and talked about it for a couple of minutes, and it was sourced. If you want to take the position I'm wrong, or you don't trust me, that's fine, just know that you are wrong and you will likely be proven wrong here eventually.

Here is a chart that shows what I'm talking about, although the one I saw I believe had 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants as well.

 

[nikcers]

What was the 9/11 evidence? You aren't even being specific. I'm saying he put up a chart and talked about it for a couple of minutes, and it was sourced. If you want to take the position I'm wrong, or you don't trust me, that's fine, just know that you are wrong and you will likely be proven wrong here eventually.

It was just one of many 30-90 minute conspiracy theory videos, I don't know which one right now. They had charts and showed a clip for like 30 seconds, and it was all sourced. You know the one, the one with that guy that has the cross eye. He has a mole on his neck that i sent him an email about, its probably cancer.

 

[pcosmar]

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Any libertarian minded person with a brain has became a member of the Alt-Right, anyway.

Oh, hell no.

 

[nikcers]

Here is a chart that shows what I'm talking about, although the one I saw I believe had 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants as well.

A true operative, you even produced your own limited hangout, I am astonished in your ability to generate bullshit, you fucking win the internet and now I am crying, thank you.

 

[dannno]

A true operative, you even produced your own limited hangout, I am astonished in your ability to generate bullshit, you fucking win the internet and now I am crying, thank you.

Wtf are you talking about Donny? You are out of your element..

You can find that on google images, I had to upload it to tinypic because they wouldn't let me hot link it.

 

[dannno]

It was just one of many 30-90 minute conspiracy theory videos, I don't know which one right now. They had charts and showed a clip for like 30 seconds, and it was all sourced. You know the one, the one with that guy that has the cross eye. He has a mole on his neck that i sent him an email about, its probably cancer.

Obviously you don't know what the definition of 'specific' is. It is difficult to argue with people who don't know what basic words mean.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Actually immigrants do tend to vote more heavily socialist and use more social services.

Illegal aliens don't vote. Legal resident aliens don't vote. Only citizens vote. Most legal immigration does not arise from H1B and illegals. I'm not an open border guy by any stretch of the imagination, but the question of voting practices only really apply to legal immigrants after having been granted citizenship. The route to that point is entirely different than the route to Jose the migrant worker. I mean, the voting habit question only really applies to a subset of immigration that we aren't even talking about here.

 

[nikcers]

Wtf are you talking about Donny? You are out of your element..

You can find that on google images, I had to upload it to tinypic because they wouldn't let me hot link it.

a limited hangout is when you supply partial information and then fill in some of the blanks with false information and then allow people to come to their own conclusion.

 

[dannno]

Illegal aliens don't vote. Legal resident aliens don't vote. Only citizens vote. Most legal immigration does not arise from H1B and illegals. I'm not an open border guy by any stretch of the imagination, but the question of voting practices only really apply to legal immigrants after having been granted citizenship. The route to that point is entirely different than the route to Jose the migrant worker. I mean, the voting habit question only really applies to a subset of immigration that we aren't even talking about here.

Ya, but their kids vote, and their kids are likely more socialist than they are.

 

[nikcers]

Ya, but their kids vote, and their kids are likely more socialist than they are.

based on your crystal ball?

 

[dannno]

a limited hangout is when you supply partial information and then fill in some of the blanks with false information and then allow people to come to their own conclusion.

Well you are the expert on operatives, then. I didn't supply partial information, I gave all the information I had. I just said that I have seen a chart where 2nd and 3rd generation hispanics were more socialist or democrat than first generation - and first generation are quite socialist. I saw it in a video by a guy who has like 25 or 30 hours of videos on the subject, and I haven't found that slide yet - but I've posted plenty of others that back up all my other assertions which are just as valid.