Joe Rogan : "You gotta get scared that people who are not criminals are being set to El Salvador prisons."

[Invisible Man]

How was that a crime?

Who was the victim?

No one was killed or hurt, no property was damaged or lost.

In the hypothetical scenario you described I was the victim, since it was my house. My privacy was violated.

Since it was a hypothetical situation, and an unrealistic one at that, we don't have details that could quantify what the damage from that was or what would be an appropriate response after the fact.

 

[Anti Federalist]

In the hypothetical scenario you described I was the victim, since it was my house. My privacy was violated.

Since it was a hypothetical situation, and an unrealistic one at that, we don't have details that could quantify what the damage from that was or what would be an appropriate response after the fact.

Exactly.

That is, in and of itself, the crime.

 

[acptulsa]

How was that a crime?

Who was the victim?

The lady of the house, who feels unsafe after her nest proves not to be inviolable. Many people, more often women, are that way.

You're right, @tebowlives, he nails it. He seems to be out to draw a bright line between them and Biden's Bastards. This teapot tempest over what due process is and what due process isn't is obviously the unimportant thing both branches of the MSM use to distract us from the important thing. Which ,in this case, is the crime, both by immigrants and against immigrant children by traffickers. I hope the admin do keep that promise, but I don't hold my breath waiting for Trump to do anything good.

 

[Invisible Man]

Exactly.

That is, in and of itself, the crime.

I agree.

I don't see any parallel between that and the topic of this thread though.

 

[acptulsa]

I would put it to you that by refusing to realize that those principles can and should be protected at all costs, and that there is a legal and Constitutional method in which to do so, that by so refusing and therefore committing to their destruction, is the greatest perversion of principles that there can possibly be.

Watch the Steven Miller vid tebowlives posted, and get a clear picture of what the hell's going on. He says the deportations are underway, there are priorities, and nobody's complaining about doing adequate due process to be sure they're doing it to the right people.

Listen carefully: This is a distraction engineered by the media to keep the conversation away from the foreign children being trafficked. Here's the real gains, few but potentially very heartwarming, we're making against the evils of the previous regime right here: The protection of children both foreign and domestic. The deep state media is distracting us from that, both because that's more reason to condemn them, and because it's something the left and right wings of the general public can agree on. Can't have that. And instead of shouting about it like a Trumper should, you're all caught up in the media's spiderweb trap and whining about bullshit.

 

[acptulsa]

I don't see any parallel between that and the topic of this thread though.

I guess he needs the whole damned country inviolable before he feels safe in his house.

I don't know why he's carrying on so. What he wants done, Trump's mouthpiece says is being done, and the administration isn't complaining about doing due process.

 

[nikcers]

They insisted that they couldn't stop all the millions of people from coming into the country or get the dangerous people out of the country before they can do harm.

So now the only power move for them is to be a cry bully. They are going to call the law enforcement a bully even though they caused the problem and the people voted for it to be fixed.

 

[tebowlives]

Stephen Miller, the gift that keeps on giving

 

[acptulsa]

Stephen Miller, the gift that keeps on giving

He won't let them interrupt until he's through enumerating exactly how full of shit they are. He's definitely one of the bright spots of this regime.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Then if Trump's giving it to them, why do you (of all people,a Trump worshipper) have a problem with them getting it?

And don't tell me what I want, because despite your delusions, Swami, you don't know. And you don't read well enough to figure it out.



Yo, shithead. Your position is they shouldn't be getting the due process they're getting. If that's not your position, you're the one who has been lying.

My position is that they are getting everything they should get and they shouldn't get any more, that's always been my position.
You keep claiming they should get more and I keep telling you the only reason they should get what they get is to make sure no citizens are accidentally grabbed.

As invaders they don't deserve any due process, in the right circumstances we would just shoot them "on the battlefield", but American citizens deserve to not get caught up in things accidentally.

I've never changed my position, and you keep demanding they get more than they already get, which means court fights whether you pretend otherwise or not.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Nobody should have to prove they're a citizen for anything other than voting or exercising some other function of citizenship that only citizens can do. If you want to deport someone you think isn't a citizen, the burden is on you to prove they aren't one.

> or exercising some other function of citizenship that only citizens can do.

Like being here, though a visa or a green card will also grant that.
We don't have to prove they aren't citizens, we only need cause to believe they are not, then any citizens or legals can prove their status if we don't find it when we check.
Placing the burden of proving a negative when dealing with invaders is insane.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Then it wouldn't be the situation it is.

The point is that it is the same situation with different details.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Our principles are supposed to be enshrined in the Constitution.

The Constitution makes a provision for saving itself and the Republic in the event of an invasion.

I would put it to you that by refusing to realize that those principles can and should be protected at all costs, and that there is a legal and Constitutional method in which to do so, that by so refusing and therefore committing to their destruction, is the greatest perversion of principles that there can possibly be.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact, nor is it Holy Writ carved by GOD in tables of stone.
Even if it failed to contain the provisions it does there would be no wrong in acting to survive in spite of what it might say.

But the leftists wish to pervert it into a suicide pact, because they hate America, Americans, and the "CONstitution" as they like to call it.
They are masters of pretending to be the champions of the Constitution and liberty while perverting all logic to ensure the destruction of both.

 

[acptulsa]

You keep claiming they should get more...

Link it, liar.

You don't know what due process is. I told you I have received due process without stepping into a courtroom. It went in one ear and out the other, because you were too wrapped in your fucking idolatry to hear it.

Reality check, Bozo: I never said the Trump administration isn't giving them due process. In fact, I pointed out Miller saying they are. When you say my insistence on due process is a call for something more than they're getting, you are a liar. Period

Lying Trumpsucker.

 

[acptulsa]

The point is that it is the same situation with different details.

The point is that some details make all the difference in the world, even if you're a brainless Trumpsucker.

 

[acptulsa]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact, nor is it Holy Writ carved by GOD in tables of stone.
Even if it failed to contain the provisions it does there would be no wrong in acting to survive in spite of what it might say.

But the leftists wish to pervert it into a suicide pact, because they hate America, Americans, and the "CONstitution" as they like to call it.
They are masters of pretending to be the champions of the Constitution and liberty while perverting all logic to ensure the destruction of both.

Yet more proof you're a leftist by your own admission.

You say leftists pervert all logic to ensure the destruction of a thing not carved in stone which is fine to ignore if you're scared.

No liberal was ever more hypocritical.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Link it, liar.

You don't know what due process is. I told you I have received due process without stepping into a courtroom. It went in one ear and out the other, because you were too wrapped in your fucking idolatry to hear it.

Lying Trumpsucker.

Here you are denying that they get due process by demanding to be told what due process they are getting, because you want them to get more than they do. (court cases)

Post in thread 'Judge Boasberg Allows Tren de Aragua Migrants to Appeal ‘Alien Enemies’ Deportations'

Mar 29, 2025

THIS is the "Due Process" that is being demanded for the invaders

Nobody asked for that. What is the due process they were getting all along?

• acptulsa

Post in thread 'Judge Boasberg Allows Tren de Aragua Migrants to Appeal ‘Alien Enemies’ Deportations'

Mar 29, 2025

The moment Trump concedes "Due Process" every single one of the tens of millions of invaders will get years or even decades of court hearings and the courts will simply not be able to handle all of them so most will just be released.

Stop fearmongering and address existential reality. What due process were they getting all along?

• acptulsa

Post in thread 'Judge Boasberg Allows Tren de Aragua Migrants to Appeal ‘Alien Enemies’ Deportations'

Mar 29, 2025

But you clearly can't move beyond that.

No, there's nothing unreasonable about enough due process to ensure we don't deport any of our own citizens. There simply isn't.

• acptulsa

Post in thread 'Arrested And Deported For Exercising First Amendment Rights?'

Apr 1, 2025

Your ridiculous, hyperbolic and ad hominem responses do not merit any more replies.

It's possible to sort them out before shipping them out. Possible and desirable. Denying due process because if they really are who they're accused of being they don't deserve it is the mentality lynch mobs are made of.

• acptulsa

 

[Swordsmyth]

The point is that some details make all the difference in the world, even if you're a brainless Trumpsucker.

The details involved do not.

 

[acptulsa]

Here you are denying that they get due process by demanding to be told what due process they are getting, because you want them to get more than they do. (court cases)

Where? All I see is me asking what the Trump administration is doing. tebowlives was kind enough to post a tweet which helped me out, because you didn't know, and felt it necessary to screech lies about me autistically instead of finding out.

For an idolater, you sure don't have much faith in the sinner you worship. Otherwise when I asked what due process they're getting you'd have checked, instead of assuming it wasn't happening and going into hyperspin mode and lying pathologically.

 

[acptulsa]

The details involved do not.

When I want legal advice from an idiot, I'll ask for it.