Joe Rogan : "You gotta get scared that people who are not criminals are being set to El Salvador prisons."

[acptulsa]

As is always the case, the feds can ship in million of invaders, insert them as bioweapons across small town White America at will, with no questions asked.

Not that the CIA doesn't have plenty of other conduits, but you do realize the questions that raised brought USAID to an end, right?

Hyperbole.

 

[Invisible Man]

Then unless we find out that your answers to one or more of those questions should be yes you are safe from deportation.

I don't see how that's any different from anything I've said.

Those who make the charges they want to punish have the burden to prove those charges are true. We call this due process.

 

[acptulsa]

That's not all they're doing.
I was having a theoretical discussion with IM, I wasn't trying to deport him.

The point, as usual, seems to have gone so far over your pointed head that it didn't even ruffle your hair.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don't see how that's any different from anything I've said.

Those who make the charges they want to punish have the burden to prove those charges are true. We call this due process.

Not with foreign invaders, and they are making sure it's foreign invaders.

Foreign invaders are guilty prima fascie and have no right to anything, especially when being expelled as opposed to killed.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not that the CIA doesn't have plenty of other conduits, but you do realize the questions that raised brought USAID to an end, right?

Hyperbole.

Yes, and the Marxist left will have you believe that is fascism.

Regardless, these people are now here, and are not going anywhere, bring us one step closer to CA Uniparty status.

 

[Invisible Man]

they are making sure it's foreign invaders.

Are you saying that they shouldn't be doing this? Or do you agree that they are obligated to prove they are foreign invaders before they punish them for being such?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Are you saying that they shouldn't be doing this? Or do you agree that they are obligated to prove they are foreign invaders before they punish them for being such?

I'm saying they are doing it.
But no court hearing is required.

 

[acptulsa]

Regardless, these people are now here, and are not going anywhere, bring us one step closer to CA Uniparty status.

So your solution is to deport people so quickly that nobody even checks to see if they're citizens.

We now have a better way to use the state to punish people than SWAT raids! Oh, joy!

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, and the Marxist left will have you believe that is fascism.

Regardless, these people are now here, and are not going anywhere, bring us one step closer to CA Uniparty status.

They will be removed.

 

[Swordsmyth]

So your solution is to deport people so quickly that nobody even checks to see if they're citizens.

We now have a better way to use the state to punish people than SWAT raids! Oh, joy!

You keep repeating that lie, but they are making sure they are not citizens.

 

[acptulsa]

But no court hearing is required.

No court hearing is required for due process.

 

[acptulsa]

You keep repeating that lie, but they are making sure they are not citizens.

I'm not arguing with them. You're the one who's against that because you think due process requires a court hearing, so I'm arguing with your dense ass.

 

[Swordsmyth]

No court hearing is required for due process.

They already get it then.
But clearly you are demanding more, and the only thing more is court hearings, which is what Rand, and the left are calling for explicitly.
You pretend otherwise but you are supporting the narrative that demands individual court hearings by pretending there is something currently lacking.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I'm not arguing with them. You're the one who's against that because you think due process requires a court hearing, so I'm arguing with your dense ass.

You're just going to keep lying about it, and ever less sensibly it seems.
They already get everything they should get, they are making sure they are not citizens.
But you keep lying and claiming they are not making sure, then you lie about my position.

 

[acptulsa]

They already get it then.

Then if Trump's giving it to them, why do you (of all people,a Trump worshipper) have a problem with them getting it?

And don't tell me what I want, because despite your delusions, Swami, you don't know. And you don't read well enough to figure it out.

But you keep lying and claiming they are not making sure, then you lie about my position.

Yo, shithead. Your position is they shouldn't be getting the due process they're getting. If that's not your position, you're the one who has been lying.

 

[Anti Federalist]

So your solution is to deport people so quickly that nobody even checks to see if they're citizens.

We now have a better way to use the state to punish people than SWAT raids! Oh, joy!

To your mind, what is a legitimate way of proving citizenship?

Keeping in mind that the people in question in this particular case that I just posted about, there is no question that they are NOT citizens.

 

[acptulsa]

To your mind, what is a legitimate way of proving citizenship?

In most cases, about ten minutes worth of due process will get the job done. What I see is a bunch of people getting their knickers in a knot because they think due process is something more than what it is. Because y'all insist on misunderstanding the term, y'all are making conservatism look downright unreasonable and ugly.

And I have to beat y'all about the head and shoulders with a 2x4 like Missouri mules to pry your thick heads open far enough to see that's all I'm saying, because y'all are literally as easy to trigger as liberals. Which is hardly surprising, considering your brainwashing and their brainwashing all comes from the same source.

 

[Anti Federalist]

In most cases, about ten minutes worth of due process will get the job done.

That a person is a citizen of the US or not?

OK, what will due process reveal that would determine that fact one way or the other?

 

[acptulsa]

OK, what will due process reveal that would determine that fact one way or the other?

WTF, dude? You never heard of a birth certificate? You knew all about them when Obama was president. Going senile?

Ask Swordsmyth. He's the one who says they're getting it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

WTF, dude? You never heard of a birth certificate? You knew all about them when Obama was president. Going senile?

Ask Swordsmyth. He's the one who says they're getting it.

Birth certificate? Easily forged.

Driver's License. Passed out to illegals like candy, and if you try to tighten up the means of getting them, now you've just crossed into Real ID territory.

A passport? Probably more authoritative.

All I'm doing is showing how cleverly the Marxists have waged demographic warfare against us, by laying these traps to use our own system of Western justice and "fair play" against us, to destroy us.

I disagree with Sword on this, I am frustrated that this had not been war gamed already within the Trump admin.

Everybody knew that this was coming.

Perhaps they are betting on SCOTUS to overturn these rulings.