Iowa Caucuses Return Watching - OFFICIAL THREAD!!! (1/3/12)

[flaversaver]

Looks like Perry and Bachman will drop or so it sounds. I think that bodes well for us so Ron's message doesn't get drowned out during the next debate.

 

[McDermit]

ohhh, don't do that - this thread is a testament to our enthusiasm and energy! Let it remain as a totem to the greatness of our grassroots

(a few negative comments go hand in hand with a free/open forum - as long as they remain few and far between within the thread)

we can just flag anything that's over the top hateful/crazy/stupid. No biggie, lol.

 

[tremendoustie]

He's "going back to Texas to reassess"

He really got a whooping tonight. I'm sure he'll drop out and support Romney.

No way -- they fought like cats and dogs. Newt's more likely, IMO.

 

[dustinp]

Also, I can't believe that an ACTIVE DUTY soldier just endorsed Ron IN UNIFORM on national tv. He's going to get court marshaled or something. That goes against a ton military rules. I can't believe the Paul campaign let him do that.

When RP called him up on stage, and as he was speaking, i couldnt help but remember the email that went out to us saying we aren't allowed to be in uniform for ANYTHING like that......i feel for him, he is going to face some sh!t tomorrow when he goes to work.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

I think when the real story on Santorum is told, there are going to be a lot of embarrassed people in Iowa. They probably won't admit they voted for him once they really know him. Iowa claims they do all this research on candidates, but there's not doubt here, Santorum got the "CNN told me he's a good guy" vote and people didn't do their homework. That's combined with the millions spent by the church groups on his behalf the last couple weeks.

I know and many here know Iowans don;t do the research... C-SPAN covered Iowa for a week interviewing people and they didn't have a clue about the candidates. Interviews in Diners, people saying Santorum the most conservative and never voted for tax increases. etc etc etc...

NICE GUYS FINISH LAST... you take the gloves off and play every trick... this is cut throat politics.

 

[NoPants]

We just experienced the high point of the "Santorum Surge", now we get to watch the "Santorum Slide". He's got nowhere to go but down.

 

[TruckinMike]

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."

--Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4,1777 ​

To all of those that have lost hope. Our founders didn't, they had their homes burned and their crops destroyed, but they still persevered. They continued the fight for eight long and bloody years. They waged war with frozen bloody feet fighting for freedom, fighting for your freedoms. --- Remember that when you've lost hope and are feeling sorry for yourself.

 

[kro]

I believe that people are talking about Rand's reaction from the speech that Ron gave a little while ago (it was on cnn.com). Rand had a look on his face that said, "game on bitches!!!".

 

[american empire]

Btw I think the campaign was right.. Gingrich is the man to beat. He is the candidate for the neocons and anti Romney. Santorum...well he is what the dictionary says about him.

 

[tremendoustie]

Looks like Perry and Bachman will drop or so it sounds. I think that bodes well for us so Ron's message doesn't get drowned out during the next debate.

Yep, Ron's becoming the anti-romney vote.

Newt's got too much baggage to stay afloat, and Santorum doesn't have wide enough appeal.

After Ron pulls second in NH, with Newt a distant third, and Santorum nowhere on the map, you tell me -- who's the anti-romney?

 

[opinionatedfool]

Delegates:

Romney 14
Santorum 4
Paul 3
Perry 3
Gingrich 1

WTF? How'd Romney get so many? He's losing to Santorum. And we have double the vote of Perry. How'd he get the same as us?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/primaries.html

I don't see those numbers anywhere?

 

[Dr.3D]

we can just flag anything that's over the top hateful/crazy/stupid. No biggie, lol.

Yeah, like those collectivist posts about us old geezers.

 

[sailingaway]

I dono, Rick definitely has some love for Dr. Paul. He read up on the Fed BECAUSE of Ron Paul. And it'd make sense for him to endorse a fellow Texan (it's not like he'd go for a VP position, he's just too macho for that).

No, they have years of opposing eachother. Ron was good to him when he was down and I think he appreciates that in human terms, but Ron as much as anyone killed his 'Texas Toll Road' boondoggle. Their backers aren't going to mesh and Perry will either hold off endorsing to see what his advantage turns out to be, or endorse someone his backers like better.

 

[McDermit]

It was the timing of the smears and the manufactured surge of an unvetted candidate. They have one unvetted candidate left to go and will try to use him in New Hampshire, but Ron having done well in Iowa will likely give him some of Gingrich's NH strength. Some will go to Santorum but he is at 4% there, and isn't going to be a real factor. HUNTSMAN is who they will try to pump.

We can leave Gingrich/Perry to knock off Santorum

The fact is, there are only so many trumps to play and a large percent have already been played now. It is as if they ran through their aces right away.

Yep, fully expecting a Hunstman surge in the days before NH.

Santorum won't get a significant bump in NH. Fingers crossed, Newt will plummet.

 

[tremendoustie]

I don't see those numbers anywhere?

They're not anywhere -- must have been a glitch or something. It's 6-6-4, but even that's just an estimate. The real delegates won't be determined until the state convention.

 

[opinionatedfool]

Yep, Ron's becoming the anti-romney vote.

Newt's got too much baggage to stay afloat, and Santorum doesn't have wide enough appeal.

After Ron pulls second in NH, with Newt a distant third, and Santorum nowhere on the map, you tell me -- who's the anti-romney?

+rep

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

It was the timing of the smears and the manufactured surge of an unvetted candidate. They have one unvetted candidate left to go and will try to use him in New Hampshire, but Ron having done well in Iowa will likely give him some of Gingrich's NH strength. Some will go to Santorum but he is at 4% there, and isn't going to be a real factor. HUNTSMAN is who they will try to pump.

We can leave Gingrich/Perry to knock off Santorum

The fact is, there are only so many trumps to play and a large percent have already been played now. It is as if they ran through their aces right away.

I hope so... this is politics, I say, Gloves off, time to get ruthless with these bastards.

 

[JakeH]

Well this is rather interesting.... http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-...utton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=politics

 

[Deborah K]

Maybe Rand will now be much more involved in campaigning and not so nice to people like Hannity. The MSM may have just awoken a sleeping giant.

This.

I'm pissed. There is no way in hell this system is not rigged.

 

[McDermit]

Newt's being criticized on CNN for attacking Ron Paul in his concession speech. Wooooo, lol.