If Elijah doesn't change the graphics back, he is going to loose half the pledges

[eric_cartman]

Do you want to turn off all the people who hate politics?

If you do want to turn off all the people who hate politics then put the word president on there.

If you want to attract all the people who hate politics then don't mention anything about politics.

We see this as being HIGHLY EFFECTIVE in attracting new supporters.

The whole key is for this to be as EFFECTIVE as possible.

this is the wrong approach and the wrong logic. the whole thing about advertising and branding, which is basically what we're doing, is to make positive associations. We want to associate Ron Paul with a positive term, like "President" .... by associating Ron Paul with "Who is?" it reinforces the fact that he is an unknown candidate. We have to stop acting like Ron Paul is a fringe candidate, that is what the media is attempting to do, and that's what the message on the blimp reinforces.

please be reasonable about this. Virtually no one has a problem with the Ron Paul Revolution side. If you had Ron Paul 08, or Ron Paul for President, or basically a big blown up version of your standard Ron Paul lawn sign... no one would be complaining. Put it to a vote. People have a real problem with that side of the blimp, and there are so many other designs that no one would have any real strong objection too.

I feel as if you are putting your faith in some people who claim to have credentials or experience in public relations/marketing/advertisement, but i'm telling you, they are wrong. From a practical standpoint, the blimp will get more donations if more people like the message on the blimp... and from a marketing standpoint, we need to be enforcing the idea that ron paul is a serious candidate. I may not have the credentials or experience as some of the blimp advisers, but i am just about finished a psychology degree from a good university and i feel confident that the correct approach is to change the design on the other side to look like your standard lawn sign. make it look professional and clean, not with this sloppy "who is" lettering...

the ron paul rEVOLution side is great. you don't hear people complaining about that. But have the other side look professional.... all these complaints should tell you that maybe you should reconsider and look at this issue again.

 

[macdee]

It's just sound marketing folks.

Let's just leave it the way it is.

The blimp looks great!

And were trying to reach voters that don't know about Ron Paul. So "Who is Ron Paul" makes sense.

I had this very same issue and posted my view. The message makes sense though. We need new donations when were all taped out! We need new donations to carry forward! And they won't donate if they don't Google Ron Paul and get the message.

Lets not mess with the artwork and get this project off the ground. I put aside my differences so we can meet the Tea Party 07 date.

I can think of a thousand ideas, but then the blimp will never get off the ground!

 

[bulloncoins]

I hate the graphics. I honored my pledge. It seems painfully obvious that more and more people will not. Hell, if just a few of the $5000.00 pledges were going to come thru, we would already see much higher figures.

We asked for input, and updates and were ignored/put off.

Looks to me that they screwed the pooch....

I don't see any big money coming in. Do you?

Sad. I hope people will honor their pledge even though they will not be receiving exactly what they thought they would get when they made it. Not getting it off the ground will be the Very Worst thing that could happen to this campaign now.

 

[awigo50]

You have to keep in mind some of these posts are from persons from other political camps.

For every dozen people who get accused of being the 'others' there is probably only one. Meanwhile, eleven newbies get insulted. Just because people don't think god came down and inspired your work of art, doesn't mean they're the 'others'. Stop doing this. You're alienating people.

 

[JohnnyWrath]

by associating Ron Paul with "Who is?" it reinforces the fact that he is an unknown candidate.

This I agree with 100%

Sad. I hope people will honor their pledge even though they will not be receiving exactly what they thought they would get when they made it.

I think they should because even with the current design, or any other design, it will get attention...it is very hard to ignore a blimp going by. Name recognition alone without any association to anything does help.

The blimp is an awesome idea in my opinion...the actual graphic is just a technicality we have various opinions about.

 

[macdee]

People are realizing this is for real!

Give them time to adjust. This is NOW really happening. People like myself are investigating the owners of the company set up to collect the donations. We need some answers to calm our concerns. The artwork looks great in my opinion. I'd just like a little more info on the company collecting the funds. When that is satisfied, the donations will flood in. Please add an "about us" link on the main page with contact information and phone numbers.

 

[michaelwise]

I tried the www.RonPaul2008 in a different location.

 

[macdee]

I think it was good the way it was. Don't need to add anything.

 

[moberley]

Who is Ron Paul?

I have read several times that people Ron Paul's support among people who know about him and his message is extremely high. Events which attract politically active folks (whether or not they were such before they learned about Ron Paul) generally show very high number for Dr. Paul. In other venues (like telephone polls) the support tends to be lower. I think it is relatively logical to conclude from this that there are still a lot of people for whom "Who is Ron Paul?" is a legitimate question.

I would encourage people to also consider this in the context of the entire project. The company arranging this is selling timeshares of Blimp advertising, but they also have (as stated on their website) plans to work to get their customers as much value as possible. Mainly by staging events at landing sites and working to get local media coverage.

I disagree with the complaint that "Who is Ron Paul?" makes him seem like a lesser candidate because there is reasonable evidence that such a question applies to every candidate other than Hillary Clinton (and *maybe* Rudolph Guiliani). Besides, it's a cool and memorable slogan. Who is Ron Paul? ... what is your answer?

In the end, and its been said here already, if you don't like the product being sold you should not purchase a timeshare. If your buying Ron Paul t-shirts you're going to buy the one's you like. This is the same deal.

 

[McDermit]

I won't be honoring my $5k pledge. Too many changes, and none for the better.

I prefer to contribute to projects I completely support. Good luck to those already invested in this though.

 

[moberley]

Fictional news cast ...

John Jones: "Who is Ron Paul? For the answer to that and why several thousand people contributed to put his name on a Blimp we go live to Stephanie Smith on scene at a rally awaiting the arrival of the Ron Paul Blimp. Stepanie?"

 

[Hook]

Well, I bet you can get the other half to donate next month if you promise to change the graphics at that point.

 

[KewlRonduderules]

For every dozen people who get accused of being the 'others' there is probably only one. Meanwhile, eleven newbies get insulted. Just because people don't think god came down and inspired your work of art, doesn't mean they're the 'others'. Stop doing this. You're alienating people.

Why so defensive? Sounds like you are creating an issue. I am pointing out the obvious.

There are probably indeed more newbies that are legit than not. Hence the reason I said

You have to keep in mind some of these posts are from persons from other political camps.

 

[macdee]

Legal issues had to be worked out.

For those that were expecting a PAC... things have changed out of necessity so more people could contribute legally. That seems to be the case. I'm sure their trying to do the right thing and get this project off the ground.

It is my own opinion that the project should have honored the 5k pledges for three days riding the blimp. The email pledge prior to the change could have confirmed this. I think their working the issue. They've come a long way with a new website that can collect contributions and it's legality.

The focus is now directly on collecting the funds to get this project off the ground!

Some are waiting to get more info about the company collecting the funds. When they are convinced, the contributions will flood in!

 

[Mastiff]

the ron paul rEVOLution side is great. you don't hear people complaining about that. But have the other side look professional.... all these complaints should tell you that maybe you should reconsider and look at this issue again.

I'm complaining about it, but I guess I'm alone. Nobody I know in real life likes that slogan/logo. Like it or not, there are a lot of potential converts that are breaking through the mental barrier that they can be against this war without being a liberal. A slogan that sounds like some retro 60's hippie thing doesn't help that process.

If it matters anymore, I'd go for a straightforward "Ron Paul for President 2008" thing on both sides, maybe with "Freedom, Prosperity, Peace" if it can fit.

$0.02

 

[LibertyEagle]

Elijah, I'm not a troll. Been here since June.

I think this decision was rushed, and it's causing problems. Something as key as how the blimp looks really needed a few days of vetting.

QFT

 

[LibertyEagle]

I will say again....

If certain wording was promised when the pledges were made, then that wording needs to be used, or the entire contract is voided.

 

[xexkxex]

QFT

I hate to interrupt and show my age....but what does that mean?

 

[leipo]

Why so defensive? Sounds like you are creating an issue. I am pointing out the obvious.

There are probably indeed more newbies that are legit than not. Hence the reason I said

Dude, get out of here with your conspiracy theories.

 

[Mastiff]

I hate the graphics. I honored my pledge. It seems painfully obvious that more and more people will not. Hell, if just a few of the $5000.00 pledges were going to come thru, we would already see much higher figures.

We asked for input, and updates and were ignored/put off.

Looks to me that they screwed the pooch....

I don't see any big money coming in. Do you?

Sad. I hope people will honor their pledge even though they will not be receiving exactly what they thought they would get when they made it. Not getting it off the ground will be the Very Worst thing that could happen to this campaign now.

I've posted this three times now, but it's not the least bit obvious what the heck is even going on. I pledged on the old site, but have received no notification that "now is the time" or any explanation of whether or not "buying time", or whatever, is the same as pledging, or what.

I fully expected when I pledged that I'd get an E-mail sent to me when the $350K was reached saying "send money now". At this point, all is confusion.