If Elijah doesn't change the graphics back, he is going to loose half the pledges

[jake]

the "Who Is" does seem silly to me

 

[pointe]

I will say again....

If certain wording was promised when the pledges were made, then that wording needs to be used, or the entire contract is voided.

I don't think that promises to donate are generally enforceable anyway. If someone doesn't like the new wording, then they can just not donate.

I am not a lawyer though so don't consider this legal advice...

 

[KewlRonduderules]

Dude, get out of here with your conspiracy theories.

lovely.

nice to meet you too.

 

[fredricko]

I hate to interrupt and show my age....but what does that mean?

Quoted For Truth

 

[JohnnyWrath]

The blimp is selling ad space now? Fuck that...a million dollars for 40,000 minutes? That is the whole month...this thing got stupid fast, and now looks like people are trying to make money off of it.

WTF the blimp is selling ad space?

What utter bullshit...the blimp costs 350,000, but you want people to pay 1 million for the month?? I would pull my pledge right now if I was a donor.

 

[xexkxex]

I hate to interrupt and show my age....but what does that mean?

Ohhhh never mind....I looked it up.

PS- I don't see the big deal with this. This is for Ron Paul...not us.

 

[jake]

Maybe the best thing to do is to donate with the current layout, but change the graphics next month or so. Let people vote on which graphic they like best weighted by how much they donate.

good call!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Let's just leave it the way it is.

The blimp looks great!

And were trying to reach voters that don't know about Ron Paul. So "Who is Ron Paul" makes sense.

I had this very same issue and posted my view. The message makes sense though. We need new donations when were all taped out! We need new donations to carry forward! And they won't donate if they don't Google Ron Paul and get the message.

Lets not mess with the artwork and get this project off the ground. I put aside my differences so we can meet the Tea Party 07 date.

I can think of a thousand ideas, but then the blimp will never get off the ground!

I don't agree with you. It may look great, but I don't share your belief that it is good marketing. The original design was much better and it was the one that was in place when people made their pledges. If you change that, you risk losing a large number of people who were once willing to contribute.

 

[AgentSmith]

Some are waiting to get more info about the company collecting the funds. When they are convinced, the contributions will flood in!

QFT.... that is, if 'the company' stops calling everyone a political operative for wanting to know such facts

So if we get them money in the next week how long before this thing is in the sky?

 

[fredricko]

In the interest of discussion, allow me to repost something I said in another thread.

Although I would prefer something else, I think whatever is on the blimp is a moot point: The media is going to eat this up no matter what it says.

The thing about people is that we want free rides on blimps.

Reporters will be begging to cover the story about how "A group of grass roots supporters totally independent of the Ron Paul campaign procured a blimp to help out their candidate" a.k.a. "I want a free blimp ride." Sort of quid pro quo: We give you a ride on the blimp, you do a story about the blimp.

It's an advertising strategy revolving around the blimp, but the blimp itself is immaterial insofar as it exists and has "Ron Paul" on it. The media's reaction to the blimp and hopefully the realization of the how serious Dr. Paul's supports are is really what matters.

That's the way I see it anyways.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I don't think that promises to donate are generally enforceable anyway. If someone doesn't like the new wording, then they can just not donate.

I am not a lawyer though so don't consider this legal advice...

I was referring to a verbal contract. The point is, that people signed on, based on a certain look of the blimp. That has totally changed and so likely will the pledges.

 

[dante]

I'm complaining about it, but I guess I'm alone. Nobody I know in real life likes that slogan/logo. Like it or not, there are a lot of potential converts that are breaking through the mental barrier that they can be against this war without being a liberal. A slogan that sounds like some retro 60's hippie thing doesn't help that process.

If it matters anymore, I'd go for a straightforward "Ron Paul for President 2008" thing on both sides, maybe with "Freedom, Prosperity, Peace" if it can fit.

$0.02

You aren't the only one who doesn't prefer the Revolution logo as I to know people it turns off immediately. But i'm picking my battles here and Who IS bugs me more. I agree a very straightforward message is best. And who is ron paul and google ron paul on the same side is pretty redundant.

 

[rjo43084]

Google Ron Paul?

I'm not so concerned about the Who is Ron Paul? part as I am about the Google Ron Paul part. Yes you get the campaign website and wikipedia's site on him when you do that search, but you also get Google News search results. In these results are tons of negative hit pieces from the mainstream media, and if the average person reads these articles first, who knows nothing about Ron Paul to begin with, they may not be able to see through the BS. Although reading some of these articles I don't see how it's possible not to see them as a bunch of lies. Still, I feel it would be better to just have the campaign's website on the airship, or Ron Paul Library, where people can actually see what he stands for.

 

[macdee]

There are some issues....

We were buying into the "idea" of a Ron Paul Blimp and it was exciting!

A lot of work was done and just now for the first time we can see what IS being offered. So a natural adjustment needs to be made to the reality.

I can understand that. A lot of work has been done and now we know what the end product is. Please make suggestions that can be easy to implement. We've run out of time and the blimp must be in Boston Harbor for the Dec. 16th date for the Tea Party 07.

If you have concerns, now is the time to address them. But realize things are going forward and only minor adjustments can be made at this time.

Main focus is... get the blimp off the ground!!!!

I myself am happy with the artwork. I would like more info on the company collecting the funds. Looking for an "about us" link on the main page. With that satisfied, I'll make my 500 dollar donation.

 

[eric_cartman]

I won't be honoring my $5k pledge. Too many changes, and none for the better.

I prefer to contribute to projects I completely support. Good luck to those already invested in this though.

Look Elijah... someone who was willing to donate $5000 is now backing out... and that's your fault. It's great that you're doing so much work for this campaign, but please start making smarter decisions. regardless of what message anyone may feel is the most effective... more people will donate if you put something more agreeable on that side of the blimp.

who knows how many of the $5000 pledges were real... the blimp may not even get off the ground unless you change the blimp. you don't have a choice. change the design on that side of the blimp!

why would you pick a design that so many people hate? there are plenty of designs that most people would have no problems with. even though i only pledged $100, which i know isn't much... i'm waiting until the design gets changed... i don't want to donate to a project that i don't think will get off the ground, since I have no assurances that i will get a refund if the full amount of money isn't raised.

 

[JohnnyWrath]

Seriously, are you kidding me? where exactly does the other 650,000 dollars per month go to?? The blimp costs 350,000 per month, and you are asking for 1 million for 27 days?

Flat out question.....is any person making money off this blimp idea?

I would NOT donate tio this now, and I would pull away from any pledge I made...this is becoming a scam fast.

 

[cero]

Whats the Deal with the President And Vice President Crap?
http://ronpaulblimp.com/MediaTeam.php
Ego Bost? this is BS

 

[Energy]

I have a friend who turns his ears off when he hears politics. He said "I'd rather focus on football."

I can see where the blimp marketing guys are coming from.

 

[cien750hp]

The blimp is selling ad space now? Fuck that...a million dollars for 40,000 minutes? That is the whole month...this thing got stupid fast, and now looks like people are trying to make money off of it.

WTF the blimp is selling ad space?

What utter bullshit...the blimp costs 350,000, but you want people to pay 1 million for the month?? I would pull my pledge right now if I was a donor.

40,000 minutes is about 667 hours. its not for just one month.

 

[cien750hp]

Whats the Deal with the President And Vice President Crap?
http://ronpaulblimp.com/MediaTeam.php
Ego Bost? this is BS

they have to form a company. wouldn't they need a president so the company is legit?