I am dying to see another poll

My pessimistic guess, I'd say he's down 5-10 points. Maybe 15, worst case scenario.

Wow. People here really think the media has this big an effect in Kentucky?

Rand Paul will be ahead of double-digits.
 
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I hope he doesn't overdo the Obama link. I am not from Kentucky, but if it were to backfire, Rand would severely be hurt.

What the...? That's about the worst advice ever. Obama is so hated in Kentucky, the main focus of Paul's campaign should probably be how Conway is like Obama and how Conway will help Obama in the U.S. Senate.
 
No poll has been done since the Maddow fiasco, and I'd like to know how long I will be nearly clueless as to where Rand stands or how much impact the crisis has had.

I believe Kos has a new poll due out this week.
 
May be its just me but I get the feeling Rand Paul's campaign did some internal polling and realized it wasn't looking so good. This may be why theres a giant campaign staff overhaul occurring.
 
According to this poll he's down 2% among the .03% of Kentuckians that see the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as their main concern.

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May be its just me but I get the feeling Rand Paul's campaign did some internal polling and realized it wasn't looking so good. This may be why theres a giant campaign staff overhaul occurring.

I'm only concerned about Louisville and Lexington. More PC echo chambers. This was a very thorough character assassination they pulled. I think the rest of the state won't have the same 'ping back' response, but you need at least DECENT numbers in the big cities to take the state.

My mind keeps going back to libel.
 
Yes yes. I've seen that a million times. However, notice that Ramussen is the only pollster who has so far not done any final week polling in a single primary since then.

It's like he got one good result, and now he is fine with sticking with that result for another four years.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

Rasmussen has Obama at -14. None of the other pollsters are anywhere near that.

It's more of just it doesn't pass the smell test to me then anything else.

Rasmussen only polls those most likely to vote, which is why Republicans do better in their polls than in other polls. Republicans are more motivated to vote this election cycle. Other polls simply sample "Registered voters" or "all adults." Also, Rasmussen rarely polls primaries. The main polling they do is for general elections, and I've never seen them off by more than two or three points in any race.
 
Wow. People here really think the media has this big an effect in Kentucky?

Rand Paul will be ahead of double-digits.

Yeah, some people are really in outer space. People are acting like the election is in New York rather than Kentucky. Obama lost to Hillary by over 30 points in the Democrat primary in 2008 in Kentucky, which tells you something about the Democrats there.
 
Yeah, some people are really in outer space. People are acting like the election is in New York rather than Kentucky. Obama lost to Hillary by over 30 points in the Democrat primary in 2008 in Kentucky, which tells you something about the Democrats there.

This is what I have been trying to tell people. This is appalachia baby, that race card BS ain't gonna work here, but it does show how desparate and ignorant the liberal establishment is..
 
if daniel mongiardo was pitching himself to the rural democrats who would and did
forgive hillary for being loyal to bill "the ever cheatin' heat" clinton, and jack conway
really NEEDED old wendell ford to look anyway at all legitimate as a Democrat, then
this hiatus for both campaigns, this lull of a breather may only slightly revitalize rather
significantly revitalize jack conway's hopes at winning the senate seat. the acrimony
of the close race in the Democratic primary may take two months to play out as the
sequence of burnt bridges stand unrepaired. primary campaigns reward tight-knit
organizations, and we can debate if jack conway will run three degrees to the right
of george mcgovern as rand paul contemplates running some three degrees to the
left of barry goldwater. despite the media flap and flare-point reaction, a goldwater
candidate in a very Republican year could finish things in the victor's circle! seriously!!!
 
Rand has probably expanded his lead to 30% or even 35%. There would have been a poll out long ago had his numbers gone down.
 
CBS poll out yesterday. Even though it was all adults they always change the weighting. Yesterday they removed 10% of the Republican respondents and shifted it to independents. It is better than previous polls where they would just shift it to the democrat respondents.

Example: 100 republicans reply, 100 democrats reply, and 200 independents reply. CBS removed 10 republicans and shifted it to independents adjusting the weighting. So the results they show weight it as 90 republicans answered, 100 democrats, 210 independents.

Yesterday poll results:

Obama job approval:
47-43 CBS: (adjusted adults)
48-44 Gallup: (adults, don't know if results are adjusted)
45-46 Fox News: (registered voters, don't know if results are adjusted)
42-56 Rasmussen: (adjusted to likely voters)


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Thanks for posting. Rassmusses has a hell of a range. I could probably guess within 14 points too.
 
Thanks for posting. Rassmusses has a hell of a range. I could probably guess within 14 points too.

Sorry for any misleading on my part. But as I look at it after awhile I see that it does appear as a range. The first number is approval then the second number is disapproval. For Rasmussen 42 approve 56 disapprove (42-56).


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if mongiardo was guilty of wrong-doing, why did conway let him run the race he did?
is A.G jack conway the more successful candidate in terms of the art of the smear?
 
Rasmussen only polls those most likely to vote, which is why Republicans do better in their polls than in other polls. Republicans are more motivated to vote this election cycle. Other polls simply sample "Registered voters" or "all adults." Also, Rasmussen rarely polls primaries. The main polling they do is for general elections, and I've never seen them off by more than two or three points in any race.

I know that, but at least PPP is willing to poll in the final week of these races and stand on their results. Rasmussen won't. He wants to stand on one good polling in 2004, and then never do another one.

And now every poll he does is way outside the mainstream. That doesn't mean I trust the other polls instead either or that I believe in trying to discredit Rasmussen. I do think you have to look at the whole picture and take Rasmussen's possible motivations into account though.
 
To be honest, I'll be very surprised if the next poll show Rand Paul with a lead of more than 5%.

As I keep reading articles from all kinds of sources, it has become more clear to me that Rand has tanked thanks to last week's implosion. If this wasn't a conservative state like Kentucky, Rand would be finished. I do think he will still see a significant drop, and will probably be polling very close to Conway when the next poll comes out.

I say it is a 50/50 chance of Rand being up in the next poll. Very sad considering the 25% lead that Ras had (I do think it was inflated).
 
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