How to Win Over the Religious Right

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There are a number of issues on which Ron Paul supporters can attempt to connect and reason with the religious right. I'm sure there are many more, but these are a few that came instantly to my mind. It is worthwhile attempting to ally with this crowd to a considerable extent. The religious right claims to (and in many instances, I believe, truly does) believe that the Bible is the holy and inspired word of God. Its message of liberty and freedom is one that would often surprise all of us.



1. INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY

Leviticus 25:10 reads: "Consecrate the fiftieth year and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants."

Furthermore, to see by contrast what God thinks about liberty, consider the Anti-Christ. He establishes the ultimate totalitarian regime, in which he attempts to completely subject all rights of all people on earth.

2. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

Galations 6:4-7 : "Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone else, for each one should carry their own load. [...] Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."

The Bible teaches that each individual will come of age and accountability, and that after that point he will be held accountable for his actions. The Founding Fathers warned that for the republic to last, its citizenry must be both educated and moral. Many explicitly stated that the Bible provided the best moral code.

3. PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC

1 Timothy 5:8 “If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”
Ecclestiastes 3:13: “That everyone may eat and drink, and find satisfaction in all his toil--this is the gift of God.”
Ephesians 4:28: “He who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need.”

4. ABORTION

Psalm 139: 13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb.

5. TAX WITHHOLDING

Jesus said that, "the laborer is worthy of his wages.” (Luke 10:7)

In fact, there is an important Biblical concept of "first fruits" (e.g. see Deuteronomy 26) and the intent is clear: God is supposed to receive the first portion of anything we earn. This is to signify that all we have is God's, and that he is merely blessing us with its use.

Direct withholding, such as for social security or medicaid, attempts to usurp God's rightful prerogative - i.e. that his cut will come out first, right off the top. It further increases the likelihood that God will not receive his fair share if people choose to tithe based on their take-home income.

6. CHARITY

The Bible is very clear about charity. It only counts if it is done in a loving, giving, and even selfless spirit. This is the message of the parable of the Widow's Mite.

When government purports to act charitably (be it through foreign aid, public education, food stamps, what have you) it does not do so and instead commits the sin of theft. To force a person to surrender their own rightful belongings to another is coercion under any name. It is also a blow to the charitable spirit, as people who find themselves robbed might consider their charitable donations finished and will be less inclined to give freely and from the heart.

7. PARENTAL RIGHTS

The government, through state and federal Child Protective agencies, has been routinely harassing Christian families for such issues as homeschooling, overt religious expression, and use of corporal punishment.

Proverbs 13:24 "He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him."

Deuteronomy 11:18-19 "Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up."

8. WEED

Sometimes I run up against a religious person who is absurdly anti-marijuana and will not consider libertarians who advocate for legalization. I dispute them thus:

In Genesis 1:29, God said to Adam and Eve, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." I think it's interesting that marijuana is a seed-bearing plant which stimulates the appetite. Men are often deluded, but the Bible says God is never wrong.
 
I think we could be a little more proactive in our approach. Evangelical Christians are a large and often active group. If approached rationally I believe they would be very drawn to his views and especially his own person and life. He has genuine faith and integrity, key attributes these people admire. They are likely to be conservative and favor a return to Constitutional principles. There is so much common ground I do not see why we would fail to take advantage of it.
 
Ron should be more clear on the abortion issue. Saying "the federal government should stay out of it" really won't fly. He should at least come out in favor of a Constitutional amendment banning abortion, as there's nothing unconstitutional about a Constitutional amendment.
 
I believe the best way to do that would be some sort of "Right to Life" amendment, which states that life begins at conception, and that this human life has the fundamental right to continued, unobstructed existence. I believe Ron would support such a measure.
 
The dollar crash and expansion of the monetary supply is a good way to explain how our currency is being manipulated (Bible abhors cheaters and dishonest weights/measures). More importantly, how the national debt is enslaving future generations is non-biblical.

The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender. – Proverbs 22:7

A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children’s children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. - Proverbs 13:22
 
Gunny knows the formula for success:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Evangelicals&p=2648396&viewfull=1#post2648396
I have been VERY effective on a one-on-one basis at turning evangelical social conservatives, and like Phil said, this is really a one-on-one battle.

I approach evangelicals from an evangelical perspective (I can do that, having attended a Baptist seminary and still being a passionate believer) and I usually start with the big one -- the government definition of marriage.

"Now see, I am a believer, and I believe that marriage is rightly between a man and a woman, but unlike a lot of Republicans I have a problem with our proposed solution here. The idea seems to be to get government to define marriage and to issue license and permission to engage in it. Well, to my way of thinking, marriage is the business of God, and the Church, and decidedly NOT the government. Not only do I not think that the government should be defining marriage or denying licenses, but I believe that the government shouldn't be involved in licensing STRAIGHT marriage either."

"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render unto God what is God's -- by taking marriage out of the Church and giving it to the government you have usurped the authority of God and subverted it to a corrupt earthly government. Marriage is the providence of God, and I can guarantee you that if you let government define marriage today, then tomorrow, they WILL define God!"

Generally this meets with surprised agreement. So I continue on to other aspects of the problem.

"I also have a problem with our getting the government to police morality. I'm not saying that people should be immoral, but when we as a church or as a group of conservative believers seek to make government legislate morality we are in fact shooting ourselves in the foot."

"You see, and let's take a simple example for the sake of discussion. Say we decided to outlaw profanity. Sure, it makes for a more pleasant world for you and I to live in, but that route is very selfish, and only provides us comfort at the expense of people's eternal souls."

"Think about it, if we outlaw profanity, then people with lost souls will conform to the law in order to avoid being fined or imprisoned, but that has not changed the condition of their hearts not one bit. We as Christians are told that it's not the outside appearance that matters but the inner condition. If we just white-wash those open sepulchers, then the church will no longer be able to see who does and who does not need ministering and salvation."

"So by legislating morality, we are doing the church a disservice by covering up and hiding the lost, making them out of reach from ministry, and in fact merely providing for our temporary comfort at the expense of millions of lost souls consigned to hell just so that we can have a moments peace on this Earth. Is that really a burden that we want to carry to the judgment seat?"

This generally leads the social conservative into a state of shock and bewilderment -- but agreement -- and more often than not they come up to me some time later having been wholly converted to my perspective. :D
 
Ron should be more clear on the abortion issue. Saying "the federal government should stay out of it" really won't fly. He should at least come out in favor of a Constitutional amendment banning abortion, as there's nothing unconstitutional about a Constitutional amendment.

When did the pro life movement abandon the position of trying to overturn Roe v. Wade? A constitutional amendment on abortion has no possibility of passage let alone ratification. Ron's sanctity of life act could pass with him as president, a simple majority in the house and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. That's doable. If the pro life movement would rather have millions of abortions per year while waiting on an anti-abortion amendment that will never pass, they need prayer.
 
I am also an evangelical christian and my in-laws and everyone at my church is too. When I talk politics or Ron Paul, I have a couple of keys to success that usually work pretty well.
1st-I never ever mention drug laws. That is not a debate I really have to win with them. They are very strongly against it so doing so automatically loses crediablity. Some may not agree but I take a Rand Paul approach. I only mention issues I know they will agree with me on to win their support. Many evangelicals I know like Rand Paul.

2nd-When it comes to gay marriage I always say the same thing and it is very effective. I am against all government involvment in marriage, not just for gays but heterosexual couples as well. The government can actually tell a straight couple they cannot get married. Marriage should be left up to churches. This is a big winner because it really side-steps the issue and secretly has them agreeing with you without them knowing it.

3rd-Pump up debt, spending, and the fact that Ron Paul is very conservative and was supported by Ronald Reagan.

4th-It also doesn't hurt to say that Ron Paul is a Baptist (I am Baptist), married for over 50 years, and is extremely honest.

I could go on but the main idea is to only discuss issues that they support already and lead them into libertarian conclusions.
 
When did the pro life movement abandon the position of trying to overturn Roe v. Wade? A constitutional amendment on abortion has no possibility of passage let alone ratification. Ron's sanctity of life act could pass with him as president, a simple majority in the house and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. That's doable. If the pro life movement would rather have millions of abortions per year while waiting on an anti-abortion amendment that will never pass, they need prayer.

I guess I'm just saying that Ron should talk more about overturning Roe v. Wade and allowing the states to ban abortion. In the interview with Stossel today he didn't even say that he supported a ban on abortion at the state level. He simply said that the "federal government should stay out of it." It's no wonder that many of the pro choice libertarians on this forum have argued that Ron is pro choice.
 
If you know any Christians, link them to Ron's speeches concerning abortion or provide a quote from him

I've converted some people based solely on Ron's stance on abortion. Then they started reading about his other positions, and now they're railing against the Fed!
 
Ron lives a Christian life. He just doesn't talk about it as much. Read my signature line.

Also would help if some of his supporters weren't so hostile to Christianity.
 
Ron should be more clear on the abortion issue. Saying "the federal government should stay out of it" really won't fly. He should at least come out in favor of a Constitutional amendment banning abortion, as there's nothing unconstitutional about a Constitutional amendment.

This may get the religious right on board but not me. I'll go with leave the federal government out of it but I won't go with total prohibition of abortion, didn't you learn your lesson last the last time abortion was illegal?
 
Ron lives a Christian life. He just doesn't talk about it as much. Read my signature line.

Also would help if some of his supporters weren't so hostile to Christianity.

I am an atheist that is openly hostile toward Christianity. The religious right has never given us freedom, they are not to be respected. The religious right gives us prohibition, wars, and suppression of scientific knowledge.
 
I'm an atheist, so I guess this thread isn't my area of expertise. I really don't like the idea of pandering to the religious right, because some of them get really crazy with the whole "Christian nation" myth, but I understand they're a large voting bloc.
 
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