HEADS UP: Sheriff Joe Arpaio 2:30 Live Press Conference On Obama's Eligibility Thread

[qh4dotcom]

Another thing that bothers me is that the "faces" of the birther movement are always enemies of liberty such as Donald Trump or Joe Arpaio.

So why do you think the friends of liberty (many of them who took the oath) aren't doing their job of defending the Constitution's natural born citizen requirements? If they were doing their job they could become the "faces" you talked about.
Kind of sad that someone like Trump who hasn't taken the oath is doing more to defend the Constitution's natural born citizen requirements than the Champion of the Constitution himself who brags so much about defending it.

 

[Bosco Warden]

I am not going to debate this with you scrappy, change the law, until then uphold the law.

It's no more complicated then that.

 

[Bosco Warden]

Are you claiming the events did not occur?

I didnt even read it, its from CNN, not a trusted name in information.


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But I will read it just for you and then point out the bias one way or the other. I havent read it, or even seen it yet, but I know its there.

Predictable is predictable.

edit: This is politics as usual, that is why he is only under suspicion and not under arrest.

Sheriff Joe is taking on the Federal Govt, you seen how they slanders Dr. Paul, you think that is exclusive?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Video of the Steven Segal raid:

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Elected 6 times by the good folks in AZ. Move there, then your opinion might mean something. Vote accordingly




Because I know where you are going with the White Nationalists question, its the only argument you idiots have, surely my disdain for ILLEGAL activity is racially motivated.

Idiots who don't deserve the job get elected and re-elected all the time. Where have you been living at?

Just answer the question. Yes or No

So why do you think the friends of liberty (many of them who took the oath) aren't doing their job of defending the Constitution's natural born citizen requirements? If they were doing their job they could become the "faces" you talked about.

and this brings up back to "if any of this was true then people would actually care"

 

[Zippyjuan]

I didnt even read it, its from CNN, not a trusted name in information.


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But I will read it just for you and then point out the bias one way or the other. I havent read it, or even seen it yet, but I know its there.

Predictable is predictable.

edit: This is politics as usual, that is why he is only under suspicion and not under arrest.

Sheriff Joe is taking on the Federal Govt, you seen how they slanders Dr. Paul, you think that is exclusive?

The woman was subject to a SWAT raid and arrested for a crime which had not even been committed and a judge later threw out all federal charges against her. Is that a libertarian action? Would Ron Paul aprove of such actions?

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

The woman was subject to a SWAT raid and arrested for a crime which had not even been committed and a judge later threw out all federal charges against her. Is that a libertarian action? Would Ron Paul aprove of such actions?

He's not a libertarian (Bosco) and I'm sure that Bosco has no problem with whatever Sheriff Joe does. Neo-cons love militarized police

 

[Miss Annie]

I am not going to debate this with you scrappy, change the law, until then uphold the law.

It's no more complicated then that.

Exactly! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bosco Warden again.

 

[Zippyjuan]

I didnt even read it, its from CNN, not a trusted name in information.


.
But I will read it just for you and then point out the bias one way or the other. I havent read it, or even seen it yet, but I know its there.

Predictable is predictable.

edit: This is politics as usual, that is why he is only under suspicion and not under arrest.

Sheriff Joe is taking on the Federal Govt, you seen how they slanders Dr. Paul, you think that is exclusive?

I note you have cited RT as a source in the past. Perhaps you will watch this video:

 

[Bosco Warden]

I note you have cited RT as a source in the past. Perhaps you will watch this video:

Thom Hartman is a dyed in the wool liberal? I like RT, but clearly this guy is part of the MSM. Just happens to have a show on RT.

Thom Hartmann, progressive national and internationally syndicated talkshow host (also simulcast as TV in 40 million homes by Dish Network/Free Speech TV), and New York Times bestselling, 4-times project Censored winning author of 24 books in print in 17 languages on five continents. Leonardo DiCaprio was inspired by Thom's book "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight" to make the movie "The 11th Hour" (in which Thom stars), and Warner Brothers is making a movie starring DiCaprio from the book Thom co-authored with Lamar Waldron, "Legacy of Secrecy."

 

[Bosco Warden]

He's not a libertarian (Bosco) and I'm sure that Bosco has no problem with whatever Sheriff Joe does. Neo-cons love militarized police

This is true, orthodox Libertarians don't believe in borders, or National Sovereignty.

Neo Con I am not, but you can think whatever you wish to.

I mean you're a fucking joke, you even chose your name as DerailingDaTrain. You're here, so its no stretch to understand which train you are trying to derail.

Like I said obvious bullshit is obvious.

 

[Zippyjuan]

How does one go about separating "them" from "us"? You need to be able to identify the difference. You can't do that visually so you need something else. IDs. When can or should ID's be checked? At the grocery store? When you appply for a job(- that puts the burden on the employer to decide who is or is not a citizen)? When walking down the street? When you commit a crime? What about a person who's only crime is not having ID on them? Do they get arrested or deported until they can come up with some ID? Roadblocks to check everybody's IDs? Papers please.

Well let's not allow "them" to have benefits like being allowed to go to school. How about when you apply for school or a loan to go to college? Turn those people into immigration officers? Think TSA involved in every aspect of your life. This is liberty? Not to me. Should hospitals ID patients and deny treatment to those without since they can't prove they are in the country legally (this practice is illegal- they can't turn you away at the emergency room even if you have no insurance or ablity to pay- citizen or not).

And then what? Throw anybody without papers into jail- at tax payer expense? Or deport them? What if they turned out to be citizens without ID?

 

[Bosco Warden]

How does one go about separating "them" from "us"? You need to be able to identify the difference. You can't do that visually so you need something else. IDs. When can or should ID's be checked? At the grocery store? When you appply for a job(- that puts the burden on the employer to decide who is or is not a citizen)? When walking down the street? When you commit a crime? What about a person who's only crime is not having ID on them? Do they get arrested or deported until they can come up with some ID? Roadblocks to check everybody's IDs? Papers please.

Well let's not allow "them" to have benefits like being allowed to go to school. How about when you apply for school or a loan to go to college? Turn those people into immigration officers? Think TSA involved in every aspect of your life. This is liberty? Not to me. Should hospitals ID patients and deny treatment to those without since they can't prove they are in the country legally (this practice is illegal- they can't turn you away at the emergency room even if you have no insurance or ablity to pay- citizen or not).

And then what? Throw anybody without papers into jail- at tax payer expense? Or deport them? What if they turned out to be citizens without ID?

What do they do right now at legitimate border crossings?

Keep throwing these softballs, I got all day.

 

[qh4dotcom]

I note you have cited RT as a source in the past. Perhaps you will watch this video:

Russia Today: Arizona has ridiculous immigration legislation, attacks AZ secretary of state, says the state of Arizona is the most misguided in the nation, invites their viewers to put their tin foil hats on, says the GOP wants to have the votes of the crazies and the racists and says anyone who wants to have a closer look at Obama's birth certificate can go to the White House website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVazNiMFsDI

 

[Zippyjuan]

What do they do right now at legitimate border crossings?

Keep throwing these softballs, I got all day.

As I pointed out earlier, about 45% of those in the country illegally entered it on a legal basis- student visas, travel or work permits, etc and overstayed. An iron tight border will not keep them out. How would you suggest we respond to those already in the country? And do so without infringing on liberties of those here legally? Should we expand TSA types to the streets of our cities- to the schools and businesses to check IDs?

 

[Bosco Warden]

As I pointed out earlier, about 45% of those in the country illegally entered it on a legal basis- student visas, travel or work permits, etc and overstayed. An iron tight border will not keep them out. How would you suggest we respond to those already in the country? And do so without infringing on liberties of those here legally? Should we expand TSA types to the streets of our cities- to the schools and businesses to check IDs?

Sheriff Joe is doing a good job, which is why he is re-elected, and the subject of the OP.


Until there is an end to the war on terror, then we have to know who is in the country and who is not.

What do you suggest, all things considered. you fail to keep this in context to the border issue, and the drug cartel violence and the terrorist threat.

You can't have everything here, so stop trying. Its not a perfect system but enforcing the law as its written is a good start.

 

[Zippyjuan]

George Bush got re-elected too. So did Clinton.

Can you elaborate on the terrorist threat? The terrorists identified in this country (and they have been few- including the ones involved with 9/11) were not here illegally. And the drug cartel violence has pretty much stayed in Mexico so that is not an excuse to increase our police state here as well.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Sheriff Joe is doing a good job, which is why he is re-elected, and the subject of the OP.


Until there is an end to the war on terror, then we have to know who is in the country and who is not.

#1: He gets re-elected because voters continue to fall for his drug warrior rhetoric.

#2: So because the war on terror still exists, should we just get behind the Patriot Act? After all, the government needs to know what we're up to and so if you don't have anything to hide....

 

[Bosco Warden]

George Bush got re-elected too. So did Clinton.

Can you elaborate on the terrorist threat? The terrorists identified in this country (and they have been few- including the ones involved with 9/11) were not here illegally. And the drug cartel violence has pretty much stayed in Mexico so that is not an excuse to increase our police state here as well.

the law is the law you dont have to like it, no one is even asking you to like it. Change the law, then you will have an argument.

#1: He gets re-elected because voters continue to fall for his drug warrior rhetoric.

#2: So because the war on terror still exists, should we just get behind the Patriot Act? After all, the government needs to know what we're up to and so if you don't have anything to hide....

Same answer, its not perfect but its the law, change it then that changes everything.

You can disobey the law but then there are consequences, ones which I think everyone here is aware of.

Keep spinning liberal, but obvious bullshit is still obvious bullshit.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

This is true, orthodox Libertarians don't believe in borders, or National Sovereignty.

Neo Con I am not, but you can think whatever you wish to.

I mean you're a fucking joke, you even chose your name as DerailingDaTrain. You're here, so its no stretch to understand which train you are trying to derail.

Like I said obvious bullshit is obvious.

It was this one...and it worked.



So what? I chose a stupid name when I signed up. When I search for your name in Google all I get are the posts you have made here and someone named Bosco Warden being arrested in Bengal for sodomy.

I mean you're a fucking joke

Internet tough guy who can't defend his positions so you use random insults. Nice