New Lawsuits May Halt Obama's Reelection Run

Once again, thank you guys very much for explanations! Understanding is liberating! :)
Proud to be on the same team with such great people!
 
Thank you all! It is sinking in! The last person I want for President is the person who said "We came, we saw, and he died". Made me sick!
I sure wish I would have taken that government class in High School now! LOL

I took the class, twice. However it didn't cover the Deception.

Obama is irrelevant. It would be absolutely no different if McCain won.
It would make NO difference if Hillery or Romney is in that position.

NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL.

This country is run from back offices and boardrooms by those that are unelected. They own the president and congress and the Senate and the Courts and the mass media. They Make the Money that runs everything. (I mean "make" not "earn").

Until this root problem is addressed, elections are just a Game Show.

Ron Paul is an anomaly (I believe) and is being resisted by all means by TPTB.
 
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So please clarify this for me. Does this mean that an impeachment of the President would be a bad thing? And I don't necessarily mean about being impeached on the birther issue, there are plenty other issues that qualify. But if he were impeached, would all of the laws, executive orders, etc.... because null and void and would we wind up with anarchy then too? Or has there been provisions in the law to protect the country from that if impeachment were to happen?

It would only be a bad thing because it doesn't advance the ball and diverts resources. Not because he doesn't deserve it.

As Ron Paul never fails to say, this is all about restoring liberty. And that is a plenty big fight, so anything that doesn't advance liberty is a waste of resources better spent elsewhere.

Put another way, the disease is runaway government. Obama is just a symptom. A wise doctor treats the root of the disease, not the symptom. And I happen to know a wise doctor!
 
To me, it sends the message that he is above the law. I think it is this message that can really breed fear in people.

Pardon me, but two things here.
1) HE IS ABOVE THE LAW. Get over it. The message is loud and clear: the man can start a war with anyone, and if any of us say boo to it, he can send a drone to gun us down, slap the word "terrorist" on us, and that's that. He's already done it with a 16-year-old kid.

2) The above is not breeding fear in people... so who really cares about the citizenship issue?
 
So would this apply to someone like Marco Rubio as well?

Yes it would and it should. When the founding fathers implemented the "natural born citizen" clause, it was done to prevent the undermining of our country to a person who has dual allegiance with another country through birth of one parent. That's why the founding fathers defined "natural born citizen" as one born of both parents naturalized in America.

Let me give you one example: Say Hitler secretly had someone father a child with an American women. A deal of solemn secrecy were kept of the "real father". This child was raised with a hatred toward America through his father and Hitler. This child's upbringing was focused solely on getting into political office in America with the ultimate goal of reaching Presidency. Through circumstance he did get elected as President. Though he is of an American mother and of a German father whom is not a citizen of America, this child whom is now a grown man still has dual allegiance with two countries. But his sincere allegiance is to Germany. Through his upbringing with Hitler's influence he has a natural hatred of America but keeps it secret. Now being President of the United States, he uses that allegiance toward Germany to undermine America through political actions.

It was this that the founding fathers had wished to prevent by including the "natural born citizen" clause. So yes, Obama is not eligible to be POTUS or VPOTUS and Rubio falls under the same rule of not being eligible. McCain was a exception to the rule being the fact both parents were American citizens and McCain was born in Panama on territory at the time was under control by the United States.
 
If he was just impeach, all laws and executive orders under him would remain. If he is found not to be natural born citizen, than those would be void.

Actually....I don't know. Executive orders might be void, but bills can become law without a president's signature. We would truly be in uncharted territory.
 
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