HEADS UP: Sheriff Joe Arpaio 2:30 Live Press Conference On Obama's Eligibility Thread

[sailingaway]

A small group of people referred to as "birthers" care and nobody else does. Hell, I've seen "truthers", shy away from even talking about Obama's BC because they don't want people thinking they are crazy.

when people are demonized for their views, they tend not to self identify, however.

 

[Miss Annie]

A small group of people referred to as "birthers" care and nobody else does. Hell, I've seen "truthers" shy away from even talking about Obama's BC, because they don't want people thinking they actually believe he's not a citizen.

Collectivism much? All republicans are war mongers and care about bombing Iran? All Christians like West Boro caring about bashing gays? All Ron Paul supporters are drug addicts caring about legalizing pot?

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Another thing that bothers me is that the "faces" of the birther movement are always enemies of liberty such as Donald Trump or Joe Arpaio.

 

[pcosmar]

Another thing that bothers me is that the "faces" of the birther movement are always enemies of liberty such as Donald Trump or Joe Arpaio.

Because they are both attempting to remain relevant. and in the media eye.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Because they are both attempting to remain relevant. and in the media eye.

Does that mean we should all bow down and worship every word that comes out of their mouths simply because they don't like Obama?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Perhaps Sheriff Joe is trying to divert attention from his racial profiling lawsuit trial which is just starting. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/19/us-usa-arizona-sheriff-idUSBRE86I0LP20120719

The suit contends that Arpaio, who styles himself "America's toughest sheriff," and his officers violate the constitutional rights of both Hispanic citizens and legal immigrants alike in their zeal to crack down on people they believe to be illegal immigrants in the Phoenix valley.

"At trial we will prove that Sheriff Arpaio's fixation on immigration enforcement and his equating of, quote, ‘illegal' with 'Latino' has resulted in systemic civil rights violations," said Cecillia Wang, director of the Immigrants Rights Project at the American Civil Liberties Union.

The sheriff's office "has recklessly set up a dragnet for undocumented immigrants, but in the process has violated the rights of countless Latino residents of the county, U.S. citizens and immigrants alike who cannot go about their lawful business without fear of being detained and interrogated during a pretextual traffic stop," she added.

The non-jury bench trial, which will run from July 19 to August 2, focuses attention once again on Arizona, which claimed headlines last month when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a key element of the state's crackdown on illegal immigrants requiring police to investigate those they stop and suspect of being in the country illegally.

He really isn't a supporter of freedoms and human rights. At least not for everybody.

 

[pcosmar]

Does that mean we should all bow down and worship every word that comes out of their mouths simply because they don't like Obama?

Who does that?
I thought this thread was just reporting on the media circus.

I think Obama is as fake as the money printed these days.. but it is still a reality like it or not.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Who does that?

Sorry to say, I view the Pauls as cowards, just like the rest who choose to ignore this.

As Mike Zullo said, it's time for the charade to end.

Sheriff Joe is a hero and Ron Paul is a coward according to Don Lapre

I strongly dislike Joe Arpaio, but the enemy of your enemy is your friend. If he can bring down the Obama regime with this, more power to him

Am I the only one who thinks that is a horrible position to have?

It really seems to me that it is quite irrelevant how big of an asshat Joe Arpaio is. That is not the issue at hand. Asshat's identity is not in question.

Let's forget everything he's ever done and join up with him

Sheriff Joe is an asshat for doing the Federal Govt job that they refuse to do on border security.

Why dont you go down there and see the border violence, to date over 50k killed.

What!?!? Sheriff Joe is a God. How dare you speak that blasphemy!

 

[TheTexan]

I don't expect anything to ever come of this, but I do find it as a useful indicator for just how exactly fucked we are. When the President of the United States doesn't feel obligated to put much work into a forgery of his birth certificate, and releases an obvious forgery knowing nothing will be done about it... ya... we're fucked.

 

[Bosco Warden]

Perhaps Sheriff Joe is trying to divert attention from his racial profiling lawsuit trial which is just starting. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/19/us-usa-arizona-sheriff-idUSBRE86I0LP20120719



He really isn't a supporter of freedoms and human rights. At least not for everybody.

I will need to see your green card before I reply to you Scooby, I believe WE have been here before.

I am not a libertarian, I believe in borders, and National Sovereignty.

I believe in LEGAL immigration, through the proper channels, I can not, and will not support anything that is illegal.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

I will need to see your green card before I reply to you Scooby, I believe WE have been here before.

I am not a libertarian, I believe in borders, and National Sovereignty.

You're not one of those white nationalists are you?

 

[Bosco Warden]

However, not to date, that is since 2006.

Good catch, thanks.

Its real easy to throw stones at someone who lives in a different state and actually upholds the law are an asshat.

At least these trolls make it real easy to see who is in who's camp trying to spin information.

This thread has been enlightening to say the least.

 

[Bosco Warden]

You're not one of those white nationalists are you?

What does that mean?

Either end the war on terror or seal up the border so we know who is in the country.

I would ask you if your a idiot, but you answered that question already.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Good catch, thanks.

Its real easy to throw stones at someone who lives in a different state and actually upholds the law are an asshat.

At least these trolls make it real easy to see who is in who's camp trying to spin information.

This thread has been enlightening to say the least.

Yup. Sheriff Joe is so great with his tent cities, unsolved rape cases, missing money, etc.

He's a swell guy I tell ya

What does that mean?

Either end the war on terror or seal up the border so we know who is in the country.

I would ask you if your a idiot, but you answered that question already.

So you want a border fence? Also, why would you insult me, when I simply asked if you consider yourself a white nationalist?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Plus his SWAT raids on innocent political opponents like the unarmed female school board member (I believe her title was) who had her home raided by a SWAT team at three in the morning for allegedly embezzeling money from the schools (no money was actually missing). Or using a tank and SWAT team to go after one guy who was fighting chickens (actor Steven Segal was part of that raid).

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-09/..._1_arpaio-dowling-arizona-sheriff?_s=PM:CRIME

But the 77-year-old lawman is himself the subject of serious allegations of abuse of power. Arpaio's critics say he has a long history of launching bogus criminal investigations against political opponents and anyone else who gets in his way.

This year a federal grand jury started looking into the allegations.

Former Maricopa County School Superintendent Sandra Dowling says what happened to her is a case in point.

Dowling says was locked in a political battle with some members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors over school district funds when the sheriff's SWAT team came in the dead of night to search her home. Dowling was charged with stealing money from a school for homeless students. There were 25 felony counts in all.

"Never could I have imagined what a nightmare was waiting ahead," Dowling said.

Arpaio promised to uncover massive public corruption -- "We are looking into all avenues of this investigation," he said -- and to win a speedy conviction.

From the start Dowling maintained her innocence: "I kept saying I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything."

It took three years, but finally a judge threw out all the felony counts against Dowling. She entered a guilty plea to a single misdemeanor charge. But she said her reputation had been shattered, her career destroyed, and she owed more than $100,000 in legal fees.

"I still don't think that everybody knows I was innocent," she said.

Dowling is not alone. Arpaio has launched -- either on his own or in conjunction with the county attorney -- high-profile criminal investigations against a who's who of Maricopa County politicians and officials. The list includes the mayor of Phoenix, a former police chief, two members of the board of supervisors, Superior Court judges, and even a former state attorney general.

One way to "know who is in the country" and which Arpaio supports is to set up checkpoints and ask everybody to produce their IDs- whether or not you are even suspected of anything illegal. (and as a side note, over 40% of those in the country "illegally" entered on a legal basis- students, tourists, work visas, etc. and overstayed- the tightest border fence in the world would not stop them from entering the country). This is a major part of the lawsuit against him which just opened.

(another side note- not sure if that was deliberate or not but "your a idiot" should be spelled "you're an idiot").

 

[V-rod]

This is all an distraction from people investigating the government using explosives on the WTC, and a missile on the pentagon!

 

[Bosco Warden]

Yup. Sheriff Joe is so great with his tent cities, unsolved rape cases, missing money, etc.

He's a swell guy I tell ya

Elected 6 times by the good folks in AZ. Move there, then your opinion might mean something. Vote accordingly

So you want a border fence? Also, why would you insult me, when I simply asked if you consider yourself a white nationalist?

I do not want a border fence, just take away the free social services that illegals use they will deport themselves.

Because I know where you are going with the White Nationalists question, its the only argument you idiots have, surely my disdain for ILLEGAL activity is racially motivated.

 

[Bosco Warden]

Plus his SWAT raids on innocent political opponents like the unarmed female school board member (I believe her title was) who had her home raided by a SWAT team at three in the morning for allegedly embezzeling money from the schools (no money was actually missing). Or using a tank and SWAT team to go after one guy who was fighting chickens (actor Steven Segal was part of that raid).

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-09/..._1_arpaio-dowling-arizona-sheriff?_s=PM:CRIME



One way to "know who is in the country" and which Arpaio supports is to set up checkpoints and ask everybody to produce their IDs- whether or not you are even suspected of anything illegal. (and as a side note, over 40% of those in the country "illegally" entered on a legal basis- students, tourists, work visas, etc. and overstayed- the tightest border fence in the world would not stop them from entering the country). This is a major part of the lawsuit against him which just opened.

(another side note- not sure if that was deliberate or not but "your a idiot" should be spelled "you're an idiot").

Thanks. You'RE and Idiot.

So now we pick and choose which MSM article isnt nonsense? See how that works Skippy?

I have seen a few posts from you Scrappy, you are not part of this liberty movement, you are trying to sway opinion with your bullshit, I've said it before, and when I see it again I will say it again.

Obvious bullshit is Obvious.

 

[Zippyjuan]

90% of those here illegally are not coming for the benefits but for better opportunities (mostly jobs) than where they come from. You can get rid of the benefits- fine. Just don't count on that getting rid of illegal aliens.

Those benefits are being provided by the states- education, welfare, drivers licenses. Illegal aliens are not elgible for Federal benefits like Social Security or Medicaid.

(I live in a border city in California).

 

[Zippyjuan]

Thanks. You'RE and Idiot.

So now we pick and choose which MSM article isnt nonsense? See how that works Skippy?

I have seen a few posts from you Scrappy, you are not part of this liberty movement, you are trying to sway opinion with your bullshit, I've said it before, and when I see it again I will say it again.

Obvious bullshit is Obvious.

Are you claiming the events did not occur?

http://articles.businessinsider.com...overa-11-month-old-puppy-steven-seagal-lawman

An Arizona man has sued action star-turned vigilante crime fighter Steven Seagal and Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio for allegedly killing his puppy and driving a tank into his home in a massive raid earlier this year.

In March, Arpaio and officers decked out in full riot gear conducted a raid on the home of Jesus Sanchez Llovera to break up a suspected cock fighting farm, bringing along Seagal, who drove onto the scene in a tank. According to Llovera, the police carried out an "unfounded" raid that significantly damaged his home, and that they shot and killed his 11-month old puppy and around 100 roosters.


Llovera contends that his roosters are raised for show, not sport. He is seeking $100,000 in damages, as well as a written apology from Seagal.

Seagal, whom Arpaio had recently deputized to purportedly combat illegal immigration, had joined the raid as part of his reality TV show, Steven Seagal Lawman. That show is billed as, "[allowing] fans to ride shotgun with Seagal as he and his hand-selected elite team of deputies respond to crimes-in-progress."

Seagal's film crew caught the event on tape, and a local news outlet caught some of the aftermath.

"I came in on the 150 [tank] and we broke down the gate," Seagal told Phoenix's KNXV. "I deployed out on the side of the house, and guarded one side of the house, to see if anyone would run out."

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com...-old-puppy-steven-seagal-lawman#ixzz215qySaqb