Glenn Beck on Ron Paul

[jrich4rpaul]

I think the point Beck makes starting at 4:30 in the video makes his argument completely valid. He doesn't think Ron Paul is a kook, he thinks the way Ron goes about conveying his ideas makes him sound like a kook to the average person who needs a message like that spoon fed to them a little at a time, because they're so used to the main stream ideas. After decades of being built up to think all these government programs are good for us and we cannot function without them, being told we should shut them all down as soon as possible is going to get the average person nervous.

I find nothing wrong with that argument.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

I think this is why the young folks latched onto Ron Paul much quicker....because these are NEW ideas...for the youth who are just starting out...change is VERY hard for older folks because they 've had more brainwashin time. BECK is for the old folks and Ron is for the youth..i think it's a good balance. (everything OLD becomes NEW again). tones

 

[silverhawks]

I think the gist of what Glenn Beck was saying is that not everything in our country is done by conspiracy.

Look at the ACTUAL meaning of conspiracy.

A civil conspiracy or collusion is an agreement between two or more parties to deprive a third party of legal rights or deceive a third party to obtain an illegal objective.

A conspiracy may also refer to a group of people who make an agreement to form a partnership in which each member becomes the agent or partner of every other member and engage in planning or agreeing to commit some act.

It's not necessary that the conspirators be involved in all stages of planning or be aware of all details.

Any voluntary agreement and some overt act by one conspirator in furthance of the plan are the main elements necessary to prove a conspiracy.

A conspiracy may exist whether legal means are used to accomplish illegal results, or illegal means used to accomplish something legal.

Even when no crime is involved, a civil action for conspiracy may be brought by the persons who were damaged.

How much of that actually matches up to what goes on in Congress these days?

 

[silverhawks]

I think the point Beck makes starting at 4:30 in the video makes his argument completely valid. He doesn't think Ron Paul is a kook, he thinks the way Ron goes about conveying his ideas makes him sound like a kook to the average person who needs a message like that spoon fed to them a little at a time, because they're so used to the main stream ideas. After decades of being built up to think all these government programs are good for us and we cannot function without them, being told we should shut them all down as soon as possible is going to get the average person nervous.

I find nothing wrong with that argument.

I wouldn't, until I consider that by expounding upon them at that particular moment, he's stopping someone talking about their views on Ron Paul, and replacing them with his views. He cut the woman off as soon as he could, and then derided her views.

 

[hugolp]

The problem with Glenn Beck is that he thinks nothing can be done. He is all about spiritual change, but nothing in reality.

Ron Paul on the other hand is all about real life change. Ron Paul's message is a lot more positive than Glenn Beck.

I dont know about the "real intentions" or whats in the mind of Glenn Beck but, if he is for real, he should loose this pesimisitc view of the world. He allways acts like everything its lost alredy.

 

[Theocrat]

Maybe Beck Was Being Too Hasty

I think the point Beck makes starting at 4:30 in the video makes his argument completely valid. He doesn't think Ron Paul is a kook, he thinks the way Ron goes about conveying his ideas makes him sound like a kook to the average person who needs a message like that spoon fed to them a little at a time, because they're so used to the main stream ideas. After decades of being built up to think all these government programs are good for us and we cannot function without them, being told we should shut them all down as soon as possible is going to get the average person nervous.

I find nothing wrong with that argument.

Yes, I agree with Glenn Beck on that point, too. However, I think Beck is mistaken about Congressman Paul's strategy to abolish such agencies as the FBI and IRS. Dr. Paul doesn't want to get rid of them overnight, and he has admitted that many times in his media interviews. He believes in transition periods to phase out these bureaucracies, and I think Beck should have made that clear to his audience.

 

[silverhawks]

The problem with Glenn Beck is that he thinks nothing can be done. He is all about spiritual change, but nothing in reality.

Ron Paul on the other hand is all about real life change. Ron Paul's message is a lot more positive than Glenn Beck.

I dont know about the "real intentions" or whats in the mind of Glenn Beck but, if he is for real, he should loose this pesimisitc view of the world. He allways acts like everything its lost alredy.

I think its more accurate to say he PROJECTS that view.

 

[DAFTEK]

Beck ain't no libertarian.

Neither am i!

 

[Madison]

...and right now, Beck is getting that message to the dittoheads.

Correct, and that's all that matters. People here can criticize him all they want for not representing our views accurately, but with his methods he is reaching people we never will.

 

[DAFTEK]

Correct, and that's all that matters. People here can criticize him all they want for not representing our views accurately, but with his methods he is reaching people we never will.

But i still want him to talk about Obama's birth certificate! HEAR THAT Mr. BECK?

 

[muh_roads]

No you can't phase things out in a week but stuff NEEDS to be phased out within 4-8 years so the next administration can't utilize the stuff in place now. If I could call into Beck that is what I would say, and I bet I could get him to agree.

Also that other dumbass put words in Paul's mouth. Paul never said 9/11 happened because we were bombing Iraq. Rudy put those words in his mouth.

 

[rp08orbust]

By Glenn Beck's reasoning, the US should have gradually phased out slavery over 100 years (or even longer--slavery, after all, had been around for 300 years!) instead of banning it with one rash amendment.

 

[Madison]

But i still want him to talk about Obama's birth certificate! HEAR THAT Mr. BECK?

I thought WorldNetDaily had that covered

 

[Isaac Bickerstaff]

Beck has just made himself irrelevant. The keyword is "compromise". If "libertarians" like Beck aim for what they think will be palatable instead of what they believe in, after the compromise, they will be 3/4 on the side they oppose and get maybe 1/4 of what they want. Do this 3 or 4 times and your position does not exist anymore.

Yes, we realize that the normal doofus like Beck probably does not have enough capacity in his brainpan to understand what we are talking about, but if we concede too much before the compromise, we will never gain anything.

"I'm a libertarian". . . It sounds dirty when it comes from him.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

I'm sick of purists who dont' want the LP to grow. tones

 

[sluggo]

Does anyone know if Beck has addressed the Patriot Act?

 

[DAFTEK]

I thought WorldNetDaily had that covered

Yeah, but i want BECK to prove FAUX ain't FAUX anymore

 

[MRoCkEd]

Does anyone know if Beck has addressed the Patriot Act?

He hasn't repudiated it.
I know he supported it with sunset provisions. He did mention recently though the concept of giving up liberty for security, and how the republicans had us give up liberty for one type of security while the democrats are doing it for another type (economic).

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

I recall that Rupert the zionist handed Fox over to his son who made the statement that FOX would be changing directions somewhat...I think this is what we are seeing. tones

 

[rp08orbust]

I think women were given the vote way too fast--it should have been phased in over at least 30 years, maybe 100.