fred thompson and 2nd amendment.

[rpfreedom08]

What does fred thompson have to say on the subject? I just need to know for someone that likes guns and is pro thompson.

 

[DaronWestbrooke]

Ron Paul is pro-Constitution, including the second Amendment, but his voting record shows he isn't a radical either, he believes in 'smart' gun laws; (that way we can appeal to both sides.) After all, he did vote against prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers...

His position can be appeal to everyone.

 

[ItsTime]

should find some good things here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/1828
http://gunowners.org/pres08/

 

[DaronWestbrooke]

Ron Paul is pro-Constitution, including the second Amendment, but his voting record shows he isn't a radical either, he believes in 'smart' gun laws; (that way we can appeal to both sides.) After all, he did vote against prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers...

His position can be appeal to everyone.

Sorry, I just realized you were asking about Fred, not Ron.. Fred is way out on the right wing in terms of guns. he isn't reasonable like Ron.

 

[ItsTime]

Sorry, I just realized you were asking about Fred, not Ron.. Fred is way out on the right wing in terms of guns. he isn't reasonable like Ron.

you mean left wing? Fred is very anti-guns

 

[DaronWestbrooke]

Not the way I see it, Ron seems a lot more reasonable, voting against reducing waiting periods and voting for letting people sue gun companies when guns are used in crimes.

Fred seems way out there.. I've tried to use that GOA link for Fred and got beaten up over it by the right wingnuts because most of the 'anti-gun' things they list for Fred really aren't about guns or indirectly relate.

Ron is far more thoughtful and moderate on the subject. Fred seems like a wingnut. Who, after all, has a gun tournment named after them? If that isn't redneck gun lover pandering, nothing is.

I would rather support a sensible, well thought out Paul position on guns.

 

[DaronWestbrooke]

you mean left wing? Fred is very anti-guns

I understand what you are saying though, we need to make sure we can sell Paul's side to the pro-gun crowd too, this is a good way to put it.

 

[Givemelibertyor.....]

Fred voted for the Lautenberg Amendment. That alone makes him anti-gun in my book.

 

[DaronWestbrooke]

Fred voted for the Lautenberg Amendment. That alone makes him anti-gun in my book.

Good spin, I'll have to remember that.. I may go over to some right-wing forums and see how it flys.

 

[Spirit of '76]

Ron Paul is pro-Constitution, including the second Amendment, but his voting record shows he isn't a radical either, he believes in 'smart' gun laws; (that way we can appeal to both sides.) After all, he did vote against prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers...

His position can be appeal to everyone.

Sorry, I just realized you were asking about Fred, not Ron.. Fred is way out on the right wing in terms of guns. he isn't reasonable like Ron.

What the hell are you smoking?

 

[voortrekker]

Not the way I see it, Ron seems a lot more reasonable, voting against reducing waiting periods and voting for letting people sue gun companies when guns are used in crimes.

What? if this is true it is news to me.

Letting people sue gun companies when guns are used in crimes? This makes no sense.

Guns cannot kill people, people kill people.

And has far as I understand, Ron Paul is the most staunchest defender of the 2nd Amendment among the all the candidates-including Fred Thompson.

To my knowledge, he is in fact is more so than ANY congress critter presently in office.

Ron Paul is no moderate when it comes the 2nd Amendment.



Did I miss some new info on RP's 2nd Amendment stance or what?

 

[Spirit of '76]

Some of Fred's anti-gun votes are detailed here:
http://conservativesagainstfred.wordpress.com/2007/06/11/fred-thompsons-anti-gun-senate-record/

 

[voortrekker]

What the hell are you smoking?

What I'm thinking too.

 

[DaronWestbrooke]

Yes, it is some of the more sensible gun leglislation out there. It keeps the federal government from restricting people from using the courts.

Here are Paul's votes on this.
Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-534 on Oct 20, 2005

Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill HR 1036 ; vote number 2003-124 on Apr 9, 2003

As I've stated, Paul seems to have a more reasonable and moderate approach than that of a gun nut.

 

[Givemelibertyor.....]

I smell a troll

 

[Spirit of '76]

What I'm thinking too.

DaronWestbrooke is a troll. Look at the rest of his posts.

 

[Corydoras]

Daron, I've looked over your past posts. You sound like a crossover Democrat. Are you?

 

[voortrekker]

Yes, it is some of the more sensible gun leglislation out there. It keeps the federal government from restricting people from using the courts.

Here are Paul's votes on this.
Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-534 on Oct 20, 2005

Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill HR 1036 ; vote number 2003-124 on Apr 9, 2003

As I've stated, Paul seems to have a more reasonable and moderate approach than that of a gun nut.

Well, that's news to me. Thanks for the info.

It still doesn't makes sense to me that gun manufacturing companies can be sued due to someone that uses a gun it made to commit a crime.

Anybody?

 

[Corydoras]

DaronWestbrooke is a troll. Look at the rest of his posts.

I was particularly amused by how he happened to appear in this thread:
http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=23499

 

[Spirit of '76]

Well, that's news to me. Thanks for the info.

It still doesn't makes sense to me that gun manufacturing companies can be sued due to someone that uses a gun it made to commit a crime.

Anybody?

Why don't we hear it from Ron himself?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul91.html