FEMA Teaching Police "Founding Fathers were Terrorists"

[Nathan Hale]

Ron Paul supporters probably are on the list. Several people at CPAC reported that they held a meeting at the Capitol Hill Club in Washington D.C. and two FBI officials showed up and identified themselves and were there to observe a meeting of conservative activists.

Apparently the FBI wants to keep track of young conservative activists.
The Capitol Hill Club is right next to the Republican National Committee.

Did they catalog this information? Take the officers' names? Did they record the conversation that transpired? It's important, when things like this happen, that we take down as much information as possible. Because communicating this to others involves not just telling them what happened, but showing them what happened, and providing them with information that they can count on, regardless of what they thing of the individual communicating that information. It's a tough job, but it's a job that activists need to do.

 

[New York For Paul]

Did they catalog this information? Take the officers' names? Did they record the conversation that transpired? It's important, when things like this happen, that we take down as much information as possible. Because communicating this to others involves not just telling them what happened, but showing them what happened, and providing them with information that they can count on, regardless of what they thing of the individual communicating that information. It's a tough job, but it's a job that activists need to do.

I am not sure what they did. I think they were shocked, surprised and found it funny that the FBI would come to their meeting when there so many other worthy targets and terrorists probably hanging around the DC area.

Many of the 911 terrorists lived right near the CIA headquarters and NSA headquarters. There are probably a few leftover terrorists that they failed to pick up.

They people did note that the FBI probably got the meeting location off of a myspace page.

It looks like the FBI is looking at certain Christian conservative groups.

 

[Nathan Hale]

I am not sure what they did. I think they were shocked, surprised and found it funny that the FBI would come to their meeting when there so many other worthy targets and terrorists probably hanging around the DC area.

You're assuming that the FBI considered them targets. You said that they reported that the FBI showed up and said they were there to observe a meeting of conservative activists. That says almost nothing of their motive. Perhaps the people at the meeting have some more information?

Many of the 911 terrorists lived right near the CIA headquarters and NSA headquarters. There are probably a few leftover terrorists that they failed to pick up.

Where did you hear this?

They people did note that the FBI probably got the meeting location off of a myspace page.

That's the downside of the internet's ability to make planning easy...anybody can see the plans.

It looks like the FBI is looking at certain Christian conservative groups.

Was this conservative group a specifically Christian group?

 

[New York For Paul]

It was probably a conservative, political Christian group.

I read quite alot about the 9/11 terrorists on WND.com

These guys were always in trouble with the law. According to news reports, fairfax county police were called to their house repeatedly for noise violations. It became a rooming house for middle eastern men. The landlord even converted the living room into another bedroom. There were all sorts of fancy cars coming by all hours of the night pissing off the neighbors.

The address and picture of the house were posted on several news sites.

The irony is that the house was just several miles from the CIA. The terrorists got the fake driver licenses at a seven eleven right near where George H.W. Bush goes for his favorite Chinese food.

Another set of hijackers lived in Maryland, near the National Security Agency. The hijackers would drive past the entrance of the agency whose employees were supposed to be looking for guys just like these.

They were right under their noses.

Most of these stories can still be googled.

 

[V4Vendetta]

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[rtil]

doesn't look very legit to me.

 

[RonRules]

Why is FEMA making an instructional video about terrorism? Their job is to help in case of a major disaster, not build another FBI/CIA/Homeland Security organization. No wonder they couln't do their job in New Orleans.

 

[amonasro]

Looks like the original text of that pamphlet was photoshopped over. Why does it look like someone took a tube of white-out to it?

 

[Nathan Hale]

I'm not finding any of these. Can you link me through to them?

It was probably a conservative, political Christian group.

I read quite alot about the 9/11 terrorists on WND.com

These guys were always in trouble with the law. According to news reports, fairfax county police were called to their house repeatedly for noise violations. It became a rooming house for middle eastern men. The landlord even converted the living room into another bedroom. There were all sorts of fancy cars coming by all hours of the night pissing off the neighbors.

The address and picture of the house were posted on several news sites.

The irony is that the house was just several miles from the CIA. The terrorists got the fake driver licenses at a seven eleven right near where George H.W. Bush goes for his favorite Chinese food.

Another set of hijackers lived in Maryland, near the National Security Agency. The hijackers would drive past the entrance of the agency whose employees were supposed to be looking for guys just like these.

They were right under their noses.

Most of these stories can still be googled.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Why is FEMA making an instructional video about terrorism? Their job is to help in case of a major disaster, not build another FBI/CIA/Homeland Security organization. No wonder they couln't do their job in New Orleans.

I don't know if you've been reading this whole thread, but the people who posted the video have yet to show that it's a FEMA video.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

It looks to me like you ARE, in fact, bumping this thread despite the fact that you have no information about this video...unless of course you actually have some evidence pertaining to the the identity of the speaker, the identity of the audience, or the concept being taught.

Don't push a video just because it agrees with you. Push it because you KNOW who's speaking, and you KNOW who he's speaking to, and you KNOW exactly what he's trying to say. If you KNOW all of these things, then please, spread that information far and wide. But in order to successfully spread this information, you need to also spread WHY you KNOW it. Sources and evidence are required. Otherwise you're just a propagandist, and that makes you no better than the people we all supposedly oppose.

Nathan needs evidence, the little guy seems to really get off on it from most his posts. Crazy stuff indeed.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Apparently the FBI wants to keep track of young conservative activists.

Oh dear. I'm really going to be on the look-out for now on.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Still bumping this thread, V? I'm still waiting for any evidence whatsoever that the video that started this thread shows us anything conclusive.

Bump for evidence for Nathan, the man cannot live without it :o

 

[Anti Federalist]

Stop this conspiracy crap!! If you must spout it, please take it somewhere other than the Ron Paul grassroots section of this forum. Geez!

Ok, maybe posted in the wrong forum subsection.

Can you please explain how this is a "conspiracy"?

That was a FEMA instructor.

That was a pamphlet published and printed by the FBI.

Homeland (in) Security websites do post the same information as that pamphlet.

A man in Kansas was "interrogated" by FBI for teaching the Bill of Rights to a Boy Scout troop.

US armed forces have practiced drills for martial law here.

Now, you can argue that these are "isolated events", done by a few "bad apples".

Doing so is naive and foolish, but it's your right.

What you cannot do is argue these events, and hundreds just like them, are taking place every day.

You all better bone up on this phrase:

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government,

What was Jefferson talking about here?

"Evinces a design" = "conspiracy theory".

That is what some of you would have called his document, the "mindless ramblings of a conspiracy theorist", you would have said that "King George has made mistakes and there are a few bad apples amongst the redcoats, but if we just keep working to elect good guys to parliament, then we'll get our rights as free Englishmen back".

You would have been wrong then, just as wrong as you are now.

I'm sorry if some of you refuse to see the "design" that is becoming perfectly clear.

The design is for an enslaved populace, working within a perpetual welfare/warfare system, monitored, tracked and tagged like so many cattle, fruits of your labor confiscated and your sons sent to bleed out and die in wars that never end, all for the glory of the empire.

Put another way, "Absolute Despotism".

 

[Nathan Hale]

Bump for evidence for Nathan, the man cannot live without it :o

Wow newyears, you must really like me to have taken the time to reply to every thread I've ever posted to.

 

[FindLiberty]

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with a result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by dictatorship. <---- FEMA may have something to do with this transition.

The average age of the world s greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to selfishness;
From selfishness to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependency;
From dependency back into bondage.

[Author unknown, it may have been Alexander Fraser Tyler (1748 - 1813)]

 

[Nathan Hale]

Ok, maybe posted in the wrong forum subsection.

Can you please explain how this is a "conspiracy"?

It implies, according to its proponents, that FEMA is a plan by the fedgov to enslave the American people.

That was a FEMA instructor.

We have yet to see a single ounce of evidence that the guy in the video was a FEMA instructor.

That was a pamphlet published and printed by the FBI.

Homeland (in) Security websites do post the same information as that pamphlet.

But what it says it not incriminating, it's just stupid policy.

A man in Kansas was "interrogated" by FBI for teaching the Bill of Rights to a Boy Scout troop.

Link, please.

US armed forces have practiced drills for martial law here.

Source please.

Now, you can argue that these are "isolated events", done by a few "bad apples".

Doing so is naive and foolish, but it's your right.

Why is it "naive and foolish"? Drawing unfounded conclusions is far more foolish than withholding judgment in favor of more evidence.

What you cannot do is argue these events, and hundreds just like them, are taking place every day.

And we're not. We just challenge you to show that they ARE. Look at the specifics of each case.

You all better bone up on this phrase:

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government,

What was Jefferson talking about here?

"Evinces a design" = "conspiracy theory".

The difference between you and Jefferson is that Jefferson had proof.

That is what some of you would have called his document, the "mindless ramblings of a conspiracy theorist", you would have said that "King George has made mistakes and there are a few bad apples amongst the redcoats, but if we just keep working to elect good guys to parliament, then we'll get our rights as free Englishmen back".

But that document wasn't written until millions of people supported the movement and they had an army in the field laying siege to Boston, so clearly Jefferson's Declaration of Independence was presented under a totally different set of circumstances than your crusade in the present day.

You would have been wrong then, just as wrong as you are now.

I'm sorry if some of you refuse to see the "design" that is becoming perfectly clear.

Make no mistake. I see designs that I cannot support with evidence. But the design is not self-evident to most people, and thus evidence of that design is required in the discourse on that design.

The design is for an enslaved populace, working within a perpetual welfare/warfare system, monitored, tracked and tagged like so many cattle, fruits of your labor confiscated and your sons sent to bleed out and die in wars that never end, all for the glory of the empire.

Put another way, "Absolute Despotism".

Great. Now show it.

 

[V4Vendetta]

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[VoteForRonPaul]

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[Nathan Hale]

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What's the deal, V, looking for another go on this subject?