FEMA Teaching Police "Founding Fathers were Terrorists"

[Nathan Hale]

By the time you see any proof that you will accept it will be way too late.

I accept a great variety of evidence, my burden of proof is far from demanding. Alas, I see absolutely no evidence in that video. The speaker is not defined. The audience is not defined. The subject and position taken by the speaker is not defined. The video tells us nothing.

The only thing we have to go on is one person's wild speculation.

If that kind of flippant analysis is enough to put you in a tizzy, then you need to slow your roll.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Great post. This crap comes from the very dangerous and federally sponsored SPLC. The SPLC helps train both federal & state law enforcement.

I assume that you're talking about the Southern Poverty Law Center here, if so I have some questions.

Do you have evidence linking the video at the start of this thread to the SPLC?

What makes you consider the SPLC "Very dangerous"?

I was under the impression that the SPLC was privately funded. Could you cite a source for your claim that they are government funded?

Thanks.

 

[asgardshill]

Sounds like fun. Unfortunately I don't care enough about this thread to watch a two hour long movie, but as luck would have it, I am quite familiar with Alex Jones and he's simply not a credible person. Unless Jones provides something he could take to a court, he's probably just full of shit. But that's just my opinion.

I like the cut of your jib, sir. Getting a straight answer out of these people when it comes to grifter and propagandist Alex Jones is a task equal to the cleaning out of the Augean Stables. Jones and his fellow propagandists have always found it easier to rant and scream about bogeymen than to provide any actual proof that they exist anywhere other than under their beds and inside their heads.

 

[pcosmar]

Tories

 

[Nathan Hale]

Tories

As a person who's studied the revolutionary period of American history for the last 3 years, I won't even begin to discuss how far off the mark you are with that comment.

You know, pcosmar, for a while (in this very thread) you were showing signs of progress. You started off as just another tin foil hat looking for a conspiracy, but I showed you that 99% of the population needs more than the word of chicken little. They want evidence. And, for a while, you were starting to play ball. When I challenged you, you did some homework and attempted to justify your argument. Now you're just throwing around insults.

For shame.

 

[V4Vendetta]

Still bumping this thread, V? I'm still waiting for any evidence whatsoever that the video that started this thread shows us anything conclusive.

By the time you see any proof that you will accept it will be way too late.

Well I guess I could join up in my local police Academy, and see if they teach us to ignore the constitution, and that Samuel Adams was a terrorists, Problem is, I don't think I have that much time to spare.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Well I guess I could join up in my local police Academy, and see if they teach us to ignore the constitution, and that Samuel Adams was a terrorists, Problem is, I don't think I have that much time to spare.

Why bother doing all that? You don't require evidence. All you need is a youtube video with an undefined speaker, an undefined audience, and an undefined presentation. Invent a little context and viola, instant conspiracy.

 

[V4Vendetta]

Why bother doing all that? You don't require evidence. All you need is a youtube video with an undefined speaker, an undefined audience, and an undefined presentation. Invent a little context and viola, instant conspiracy.

Instant suspicion.... Yep, sure as hell looks like a possible conspiracy to me!

 

[Redcard]

Proves nothing. I can make a video that talks about the FED as though it was being presented at the FED.. and I could make it look like the FED.. but that doesn't make it credible.

 

[Ira Aten]

Quote from Scmessier:

I'd like to see the full video of the class to place it in context.

Not to worry, they will probably be playing it in the camps when you get there.

 

[V4Vendetta]

Quote from Scmessier:

Not to worry, they will probably be playing it in the camps when you get there.

lmao! but no, seriously, I feel very sorry for those kind of people.

Pick up a bible, and read REVELATION

talks bout it all right there!

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Formaldehyde levels in the FEMA TRAILERS

lmao! but no, seriously, I feel very sorry for those kind of people.

Pick up a bible, and read REVELATION

talks bout it all right there!

Maybe they should be POLICING all the deadly FEMA TRAILERS?

They need to worry about the TON of CLASS ACTION LAW SUITS coming their way with the KATRINA TRAILERS:

Of course the whistle blowers came forward and exposed the cover-up of the deadly known human carcinogen Formaldehyde. The Formaldehyde levels in the FEMA TRAILERS people have been living in, measure over 300% the maximum allowable levels, worst off, it's leading to CANCER and Birth Defects.

I wonder if BUSH and Chertoff will grant immunity to all of FEMA?

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/formaldehyde

 

[V4Vendetta]

I hate to think How bad it will be

 

[Nathan Hale]

Instant suspicion.... Yep, sure as hell looks like a possible conspiracy to me!

So you're telling me that you are willing to jump to a conclusion based on something like the video at the start of this thread?

 

[Nathan Hale]

lmao! but no, seriously, I feel very sorry for those kind of people.

Pick up a bible, and read REVELATION

talks bout it all right there!

Revelation....right......

 

[Mach]

Evidence

Here are some "papers" from the "Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities of the United States Senate, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, 1976"..............

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm


I know, "that was a long time ago", do you think that they did all of this, but, have corrected their selves since then? Technology just makes it easier.

There's not going to be a bunch of "evidence" laying around, out in the open.

http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/06/696.asp

Dig in.
http://www.schneier.com/essay-145.html

Here is a corporate sales and marketing commercial.

http://cryptome.org/airport1.swf

 

[Mach]

..........

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/01/illegal-government-surveillance-its-not-just-foreigners

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/01/keith-olbermann-explains-it-all

 

[V4Vendetta]

interesting links, thanks

 

[Nathan Hale]

Here are some "papers" from the "Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities of the United States Senate, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, 1976"..............

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm

Yeah, COINTELPRO was bad. WE don't need proof for stuff like this b/c it's well documented.

I know, "that was a long time ago", do you think that they did all of this, but, have corrected their selves since then? Technology just makes it easier.

Evidence is still required to show wrongdoing.

There's not going to be a bunch of "evidence" laying around, out in the open.

No. Evidence has and always will involve gathering. It needs to be found.

http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/

This link is a good collection of data, but the issue is already mainstream. There is also no evidence pointing to purposeful collusion toward the creation of a police state. As far as we know this is simply a misguided trend.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/06/696.asp

Looks to me like a misguided attempt to better collect traffic data.

Dig in.
http://www.schneier.com/essay-145.html

Hey man, I'm with you. These programs need to be shut down. But I'm not going to assume that these programs are part of some overarching police state plan unless I'm giving cause to feel that way. There are a great many people who argue in favor of these programs, and they're all not ignorant or closet fascists. They're just misguided. They think freedom for security is a good trade. They need to be removed from power. But before we start accusing the government of purposeful malevolence toward the people, we'd best have some evidence.

Here is a corporate sales and marketing commercial.

http://cryptome.org/airport1.swf

You're in luck, it's a commercial. Corporations never deliver on what is promised in commercials. I mean, is your airport experience anywhere close to what is portrayed in that video?

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/01...ust-foreigners

Yeah, this is horrible. The policy should be changed. But this doesn't point to anything that we don't already know.

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/01...xplains-it-all

Once again, where's the beef? I don't see any evidence related to a sinister underpinning other than cronyism, which is openly rampant in this administration.

 

[V4Vendetta]

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