DON'T BE DISCOURAGED! The Real Campaign Hasn't Yet Begun

I do not agree with a 3rd party run. And maybe I don't because I haven't seen or heard all sides of it. BUT, If Dr. Paul decides he wants to run on a 3rd party ticket...I will support him. I've always admired Dr. Paul for how intelligent he is. He knows what he's doing. Can't say the same for HQ though...but that's another thread.:)

A lot of people here are too young to remember Ross Perot's independent run in 1992, but Perot damn near won the white house. I'm telling you guys... IT CAN BE DONE.
 
I agree the "real campaign hasn't yet begun" because most people in the campaign don't know how to campaign at all.

What I see the ultimate goal this year is voting for Ron Paul in the general election. I don't care if he stays a Republican, goes independent/3rd, or stops campaigning in which we'll have to write his name in. After that, I'm going to start studying and spreading the the message for my entire life like Ron Paul is doing

You are a patriot, sir!
 
A lot of people here are too young to remember Ross Perot's independent run in 1992, but Perot damn near won the white house. I'm telling you guys... IT CAN BE DONE.

I'm old enough to remember Ross Perot's run. I would disagree with you he damn near won the whitehouse, but he made enough of a splash to get in the debates, and make some noise til he imploded.

I do however agree a 3rd party run can be done, and won.

First there is a huge difference between RP an Perot. Perot was a cranky old rich guy who financed his election.....kind of like a Mitt Romney, but not fake like Mitt. Perot actually spoke his mind....he wasn't saying what he thought you wanted to hear like Mitt.

RP on the other hand is a candidate of the people. He was persuaded to do this.

The real key to a third party run is financing. $6-7 million a month until november and a 180,000 precinct leaders by September 1st is what it it will take to win.

We are at 40-45% name recognition now, but only at about 20% platform recognition.

The key to winning a third party run is simple. You need to keep getting the message out. 180,000 precdint leaders to knock on every door in america to make sure we can reach every american possible.

The donation until the end of summer should be used for commercials. Particulary in anti war states.

I live in NY, a very blue state, many people here that wouldn't vote for Ron in a general election because of the Republican in front of his name, would vote for RP over Hillary anyday if he was an independent. Also the anti-war stance seems to appeal to everyone except the majority of the GOP. The anti-war stance will never wash in the GOP. The anti war stance will always be a thorn in the side of RP for any kind of respect or political capital in the GOP.

We tried the GOP route, once the money started rolling in, MSM treated RP like a third party candidate anyway, in terms of coverage.

There is only one way left to break through the MSM blockade, and that is to buy our way through it. That's what perot did, and Romney attempted to do this year (It worked for Mitt, he got the name recognition....but most people who saw him knew he was as fake as a 3 dollar bill so it was all for naught for mitt.

Most dollars spent by HQ until the end of summer would have to be on TV advertising with excellent ads that would sway the legions of braindead americans that can be convinced to do what their TV tells them.

As national polls creeped above 15%, the MSM would have no choice but to report on RP like they had to with Perot.

The third party run is the way to go.....$6-7 million a month and 180,000 precinct leaders by september 1st.....and we could make history.
 
Wtf?

Ron has not been able to reveal his true plan, because he was running in the GOP primary, in order to give the party one last chance, and in order to build up a movement like this one! We have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams! But the real goal all along was never these stupid GOP primaries. It was an independent run.

If you know this, then you never, ever get discouraged by these retarded GOP dog and pony shows with a bunch of war-mongers and big-spending Republicans competing to tell you who is going to get us into more wars and bankrupt us faster. The whole thing is a joke, and Ron knows it.

People, what do you have to be sad about??? NOTHING! We have built a massive revolutionary base from out of thin air in less than a year. And we still have eight months left. The chains and the shackles are about to come off this campaign, and the real Ron Paul is about to be unleashed! So keep your heads up.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a complete pile of BS...look we all love RP but it's done. He won't stay in because he's smart. He's accomplished miracles in the campaign but tonights votes don't lie. We got our ASS fully and totally kicked all over the country. It's been an amazing ride and all you guys under 25 or 30 will keep yourselves going but tonight was beyond a disaster.
No surprise to me; AMERICA is all image baby...and Ron didn't get the pros on board. Period. He has spent a large amount of money for 20 delegates! I think if you do the math in the morning he's at the same effectiveness level as our resident MBA: Mitt Romney.. So, carry on if you wish and let those who want to drink the Kool Aid keep drinking it. I predict RP will bow out shortly. If he doesn't he will hurt his ability to broker any real change down the road.
BO will be the next President.
God Bless Ron Paul and all his amazing supporters, it's been great...:)
 
Ron has not been able to reveal his true plan, because he was running in the GOP primary, in order to give the party one last chance, and in order to build up a movement like this one! We have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams! But the real goal all along was never these stupid GOP primaries. It was an independent run.

If you know this, then you never, ever get discouraged by these retarded GOP dog and pony shows with a bunch of war-mongers and big-spending Republicans competing to tell you who is going to get us into more wars and bankrupt us faster. The whole thing is a joke, and Ron knows it.

People, what do you have to be sad about??? NOTHING! We have built a massive revolutionary base from out of thin air in less than a year. And we still have eight months left. The chains and the shackles are about to come off this campaign, and the real Ron Paul is about to be unleashed! So keep your heads up.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CAN´T AGREE MORE!!!


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Look at the numbers.... Dems are getting votes tonight in the 100's of thousands and the Republicans are in the 10's of thousands. The population is voting Democrat. Staying as a Republican doesn't make sense.

As to voting for anyone but Ron Paul for me.... ain't gonna happen. I'll never vote for one candidate just to keep another out. I want my country back.
 
I'm old enough to remember Ross Perot's run. I would disagree with you he damn near won the whitehouse, but he made enough of a splash to get in the debates, and make some noise til he imploded.

I worked on Perot's campaign in Florida and as you say, he imploded - after he did that I stopped working on the campaign as it was clear to me that he wasn't able for the job.

If he hadn't done himself in, Perot could have given them a run for the money.
 
I agree with Buffalo Kid. A 3rd party run can win "THIS YEAR"! Everyone you talk to is pissed about everything. A LOT of the Dems in NY do not like Hillary, or Barack. IF a candidate can point out how the Dems/GOP candidates are identical it is possible. Remember Nafta, illegal immigration, the war, and nothing is going to be done about the dollar/economy. Now u possibly throw in Bloomberg who will siphon off liberal votes. Anything can happen!!
Ross Perot DID have 30% in the polls until he dropped out. That killed his campaign. He ended up with 19% of the vote. People remember he was right about Nafta to. As the economy continues to tank the candidates will be under a microscope on how they are going to fix things.
 
Ron Paul has basically made it clear he wasn't planning on running third-party, so claiming it was his "plan" all along is not only naive, it's utterly stupid. That being said, of course I'll support him, whatever his decision. But don't make these blindingly ignorant statements.
 
I forgot to say Ron should continue on to the convention, but hopefully is laying the groundwork for a possible 3rd party run. There is a lot of people who would vote for Ron in a general election who couldn`t in the various primaries. I had 30 people who could not because they were not registered republicans here in NY.
 
This is the beginning of another 40 years of Democrat contol of the house and senate.

Prediction: next Republican president will be 2048 and I'll be dead.
 
Because he started saying things that made everyone think he was crazy. Plus dropping out all summer then getting back in ruined his credability.


Ross Perot claimed his family was being threatened and made a big flap of it in the MSM. True or not, it blew his credibility, especially when he decided to get back in the race during the Fall. However, he did accomplish one of his goals and that was ensuring that George H.W. Bush would not be re-elected.
 
I voted for Ross Perot, I thought we needed a different direction. Every damn person I've voted for hasn't won lol.
 
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