DON'T BE DISCOURAGED! The Real Campaign Hasn't Yet Begun

Ron Paul has basically made it clear he wasn't planning on running third-party, so claiming it was his "plan" all along is not only naive, it's utterly stupid. That being said, of course I'll support him, whatever his decision. But don't make these blindingly ignorant statements.

Hear, hear. I am SO tired of this 3rd part stuff on and on and on..he as said he won't. There are a LOT of good reasons why not. I will do what he wants, not what people keep pushingl.
 
Exactly! Ron Paul Radio is just now talking about delegates.

Anyone in Florida needs to sign up to be a delegate starting today. The more who sign up, the better. To take back the Republican party, you need all the delegates possible.

Only delegates elect the nominee. If nominee does not win on first ballot, you can vote for whomever you want to in most states.

Remeber, 60,000 voters voted for Dr. Paul. If you can get a thousand to be delegates, you can take Florida at the convention. This process begins today. Please speak with your groups and precinct leaders for more and better information in all the states about the correct information you will need.
 
Brokered Convention

No, I'd vote Obama before McCain, and not because I like Obama, but because I wish to see the republican party self-destruct and hope that Ron Paul republicans are there to pick up the peices with the man Ron Paul himself leading those in congress.

To bad the country will fall from recession to depression by then!

Fight for freedom!

I sure am glad founding fathers didn't give up so easily!!!!!!!

WE ARE HEADED FOR A BROKERED CONVENTION!!!
it is more so than unlikely! When that happens all the primaries and delegates get erased!!! and we start over!

and what a brokered convention would do is exactly what you describe above!
 
Ross Perot claimed his family was being threatened and made a big flap of it in the MSM. True or not, it blew his credibility, especially when he decided to get back in the race during the Fall.

He lost at least half of his campaign workers when he dropped out. I still voted for him but I wasn't going to invest any more of my time or money.
 
I agree with Buffalo Kid. A 3rd party run can win "THIS YEAR"! Everyone you talk to is pissed about everything. A LOT of the Dems in NY do not like Hillary, or Barack. IF a candidate can point out how the Dems/GOP candidates are identical it is possible. Remember Nafta, illegal immigration, the war, and nothing is going to be done about the dollar/economy. Now u possibly throw in Bloomberg who will siphon off liberal votes. Anything can happen!!
Ross Perot DID have 30% in the polls until he dropped out. That killed his campaign. He ended up with 19% of the vote. People remember he was right about Nafta to. As the economy continues to tank the candidates will be under a microscope on how they are going to fix things.

I think Perot reached as high as 40% or more in the race before he melted down. He was leading both Bush and Clinton.
 
Ron has not been able to reveal his true plan, because he was running in the GOP primary, in order to give the party one last chance, and in order to build up a movement like this one! We have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams! But the real goal all along was never these stupid GOP primaries. It was an independent run.

If you know this, then you never, ever get discouraged by these retarded GOP dog and pony shows with a bunch of war-mongers and big-spending Republicans competing to tell you who is going to get us into more wars and bankrupt us faster. The whole thing is a joke, and Ron knows it.

People, what do you have to be sad about??? NOTHING! We have built a massive revolutionary base from out of thin air in less than a year. And we still have eight months left. The chains and the shackles are about to come off this campaign, and the real Ron Paul is about to be unleashed! So keep your heads up.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MayTheRon, over the months, you've made some silly statements, but for God's sake...
 
Ron has not been able to reveal his true plan, because he was running in the GOP primary, in order to give the party one last chance, and in order to build up a movement like this one! We have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams! But the real goal all along was never these stupid GOP primaries. It was an independent run.

If you know this, then you never, ever get discouraged by these retarded GOP dog and pony shows with a bunch of war-mongers and big-spending Republicans competing to tell you who is going to get us into more wars and bankrupt us faster. The whole thing is a joke, and Ron knows it.

People, what do you have to be sad about??? NOTHING! We have built a massive revolutionary base from out of thin air in less than a year. And we still have eight months left. The chains and the shackles are about to come off this campaign, and the real Ron Paul is about to be unleashed! So keep your heads up.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what's your source on this? Paul needs to go third party NOW.
 
California is a blue state. How can you expect him to win there? It just won't happen. And don't bring up Ah-nold. He did a lot to enrich people in the movie biz and they paid him back for that.

We need to keep moving forward. There are more states left with primaries coming up. We need to continue to fund our tireless and selfless leader. If we give up, we were never behind this rEVOLution in the first place.
 
I worked on Perot's campaign in Florida and as you say, he imploded - after he did that I stopped working on the campaign as it was clear to me that he wasn't able for the job.

If he hadn't done himself in, Perot could have given them a run for the money.

What do you mean "done himself in?" It's my understanding that Perot's family was experiencing death threats if he didn't bow out. I think instead of "done himself in" he saved a family member's life by bowing out.
 
Ron has not been able to reveal his true plan, because he was running in the GOP primary, in order to give the party one last chance, and in order to build up a movement like this one! We have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams! But the real goal all along was never these stupid GOP primaries. It was an independent run.

If you know this, then you never, ever get discouraged by these retarded GOP dog and pony shows with a bunch of war-mongers and big-spending Republicans competing to tell you who is going to get us into more wars and bankrupt us faster. The whole thing is a joke, and Ron knows it.

People, what do you have to be sad about??? NOTHING! We have built a massive revolutionary base from out of thin air in less than a year. And we still have eight months left. The chains and the shackles are about to come off this campaign, and the real Ron Paul is about to be unleashed! So keep your heads up.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's going to be very sad seeing you cry when you find out that Ron doesn't lie and as he has stated many times, is NOT going to run 3rd party. It would have been nice for the 3rd party advocates to have helped get him nominated, but ah well.

oh, and I'm not being sarcastic, it really will be sad. As futile as it would be I would rather he ran independent or 3rd party just so I could vote for him again, but he won't as he has repeatedly stated.
 
It's going to be very sad seeing you cry when you find out that Ron doesn't lie and as he has stated many times, is NOT going to run 3rd party. It would have been nice for the 3rd party advocates to have helped get him nominated, but ah well.

You mean like donating to every money bomb and canvassing and passing out slims every week at churches and movie theaters?? I have supported his GOP run more than 90% of the people here.
 
Ron has not been able to reveal his true plan, because he was running in the GOP primary, in order to give the party one last chance, and in order to build up a movement like this one! We have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams! But the real goal all along was never these stupid GOP primaries. It was an independent run.

If you know this, then you never, ever get discouraged by these retarded GOP dog and pony shows with a bunch of war-mongers and big-spending Republicans competing to tell you who is going to get us into more wars and bankrupt us faster. The whole thing is a joke, and Ron knows it.

People, what do you have to be sad about??? NOTHING! We have built a massive revolutionary base from out of thin air in less than a year. And we still have eight months left. The chains and the shackles are about to come off this campaign, and the real Ron Paul is about to be unleashed! So keep your heads up.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you talking about, and HOW do you know this?? Is there some official statement from campaign HQ stating what you just said, or are you making things up?

If what you're saying is true, then post the memo/statement that came from the campaign that states what YOU claim, because I SURE AS HELL DID NOT get THAT
memo! :mad:
 
Independence!

What this country needs is a strong, independent president that can bitch-slap these two corrupt parties back into line with the Constitution. If Ron wants to stick with the back-stabbing Republicans and get his ass handed to him at the convention, that's his business. If he is not nominated, my vote is gong to the Liberatarian or the Green. I will not participate in this "two-party" sham!
 
No, I'd vote Obama before McCain, and not because I like Obama, but because I wish to see the republican party self-destruct and hope that Ron Paul republicans are there to pick up the peices with the man Ron Paul himself leading those in congress.

Absolutely right on everything. There will be no 3rd party run. I believe Paul's plan all along was to rebuild a Goldwater/Taft wing of the Gop. He has done that.

Now I suggest everyone go join thr RLC (Republican Liberty Caucus) they are the Libertarian wing of the GOP.

www.rlc.org
 
we've got 8 months! get excited! read my sig!

People would step up if he went iNDY! Just ask around--especially people you know who already donated--ask them, "would you donate again if he continued to seek the Republican Nomination?"

Then ask them "would you donate if he announced that he was going to run as an iNDEPENDENT?"

200,000 precinct captains, infomercials, and a 25 million dollar Independence Day money bomb!

IF he doesn't do well enough in the next month or two, and then makes the calculated decision to run iNDY, and then declares say in March, and starts campaigning and runs a couple infomercials to pique some interest (emphasised because it's the most essential part), we could pick one perfect day, and make sure to have two months to plan it--and do everything in our power to make it better and bigger than the Tea Party. Independence Day would make so much sense--the country could declare it's independence from the parties, the special interests and lobbyists, the IRS, the Bankers, the Bush war and the Bush and McCain shamnesty, and the tax and spend Democrats--and we'd have 3 or however many months to prepare for it and drum up support. We could set a goal of 25 million in one day, and hope to shatter it. And then Ron Paul would have July, August, September, and October to spend it and raise more all along--while all along, for those 4 plus months, we could fill every precinct captain position and canvass and call every house--while Iraq continues exploding and the economy collapses.
 
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It's going to be very sad seeing you cry when you find out that Ron doesn't lie and as he has stated many times, is NOT going to run 3rd party. It would have been nice for the 3rd party advocates to have helped get him nominated, but ah well.

oh, and I'm not being sarcastic, it really will be sad. As futile as it would be I would rather he ran independent or 3rd party just so I could vote for him again, but he won't as he has repeatedly stated.

What a bunch of crap--to say people that want him to be president, not just want to "change the GOP" haven't helped get him nominated. I guess I have one thing to say to that: FU. I gave up, in money and time, what could have been an incredible 2 week dream skiing trip. It was totally worth it though.

Nobody is going to stop canvassing--no matter what. But almost everyone is hoping that if it becomes clear that he obviously can't get the Nom., he will go iNDY.

All I hear is yelling, and all I see is willful blindness, from the anti-iNDY folks.

Keep yelling. We however are hopeful for a Ron Paul whitehouse. We don't care if it is w/ out the GOP.

Paul has said repeatedly that he will not run 3rd party. Why would he lie to us like that?

No he hasn't!

He is absolutely right--and honest--to say that he "has no intention of going iNDEPENDENT or Third Party" because, right now (at least before today's results), his only intention is to win the Republican nomination. He 100% fully intends (or intended) to wholeheartedly run and try his best to win as a Republican while he is running as such, and he says so. He has NEVER, EVER said "I will not run iNDY". He has never, ever said "I will never run iNDY". But IF it becomes clear he cannot win the nomination, then he can go independent.

I would be very, very, very sad if he didn't go iNDY. He could win it, especially against Hillary (and she seems like the chosen one (it's all about the superdelegates).

Actually, I will say this... If it appears that the GOP will be utterly, hopelessly lost, as in completely abandoning constitutional and conservative ideals like protection of civil liberties, small, limited government, national sovereignty, and a non-interventionist foreign policy, then maybe Ron Paul and his 10% base that exists now should all sign up under the banner of a new coalition, maybe it could be a party, maybe call it the Conservative Party. That way we go into the contest for the General election with some orginization--and if it catches on maybe it could beat down the Republican Party that so many conservatives are fed up with. Also, any Ron Paul Republicans could join the Conservative Party (or whatever it is) and could run for Congress and state seats under its banner in the upcoming election, especially if they don't make it in their primaries.

We could create "the Conservative party" with our email, fundraising, and canvassing lists--and, of course, with our delegate lists. Although I still don't know if that would be better than iNDY. The reason I say that is because we might alienate the Libertarians and Constitution party folks, whereas we wouldn't if we went iNDY--but they are only like 4% of the voting public if that. "Conservative Party" (or another name possibly) would get us the Buchananites and many others I'm sure.

We WILL win iNDY.
 
What a bunch of crap--to say people that want him to be president, not just want to "change the GOP" haven't helped get him nominated. I guess I have one thing to say to that: FU. I gave up, in money and time, what could have been an incredible 2 week dream skiing trip. It was totally worth it though.

Nobody is going to stop canvassing--no matter what. But almost everyone is hoping that if it becomes clear that he obviously can't get the Nom., he will go iNDY.

All I hear is yelling, and all I see is willful blindness, from the anti-iNDY folks.

Keep yelling. We however are hopeful for a Ron Paul whitehouse. We don't care if it is w/ out the GOP.



No he hasn't!

He is absolutely right--and honest--to say that he "has no intention of going iNDEPENDENT or Third Party" because, right now (at least before today's results), his only intention is to win the Republican nomination. He 100% fully intends (or intended) to wholeheartedly run and try his best to win as a Republican while he is running as such, and he says so. He has NEVER, EVER said "I will not run iNDY". He has never, ever said "I will never run iNDY". But IF it becomes clear he cannot win the nomination, then he can go independent.

I would be very, very, very sad if he didn't go iNDY. He could win it, especially against Hillary (and she seems like the chosen one (it's all about the superdelegates).

Actually, I will say this... If it appears that the GOP will be utterly, hopelessly lost, as in completely abandoning constitutional and conservative ideals like protection of civil liberties, small, limited government, national sovereignty, and a non-interventionist foreign policy, then maybe Ron Paul and his 10% base that exists now should all sign up under the banner of a new coalition, maybe it could be a party, maybe call it the Conservative Party. That way we go into the contest for the General election with some orginization--and if it catches on maybe it could beat down the Republican Party that so many conservatives are fed up with. Also, any Ron Paul Republicans could join the Conservative Party (or whatever it is) and could run for Congress and state seats under its banner in the upcoming election, especially if they don't make it in their primaries.

We could create "the Conservative party" with our email, fundraising, and canvassing lists--and, of course, with our delegate lists. Although I still don't know if that would be better than iNDY. The reason I say that is because we might alienate the Libertarians and Constitution party folks, whereas we wouldn't if we went iNDY--but they are only like 4% of the voting public if that. "Conservative Party" (or another name possibly) would get us the Buchananites and many others I'm sure.

We WILL win iNDY.

Right on!
 
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