DON'T BE DISCOURAGED! The Real Campaign Hasn't Yet Begun

I agree the "real campaign hasn't yet begun" because most people in the campaign don't know how to campaign at all.

What I see the ultimate goal this year is voting for Ron Paul in the general election. I don't care if he stays a Republican, goes independent/3rd, or stops campaigning in which we'll have to write his name in. After that, I'm going to start studying and spreading the the message for my entire life like Ron Paul is doing: educating people (I wont be running for any office though). F*ck old people. It's people 40 and younger who will know this message and these principles and who hopefully can make a difference in 20 years or so.
 
Ron has not been able to reveal his true plan, because he was running in the GOP primary, in order to give the party one last chance, and in order to build up a movement like this one! We have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams! But the real goal all along was never these stupid GOP primaries. It was an independent run.

If you know this, then you never, ever get discouraged by these retarded GOP dog and pony shows with a bunch of war-mongers and big-spending Republicans competing to tell you who is going to get us into more wars and bankrupt us faster. The whole thing is a joke, and Ron knows it.

People, what do you have to be sad about??? NOTHING! We have built a massive revolutionary base from out of thin air in less than a year. And we still have eight months left. The chains and the shackles are about to come off this campaign, and the real Ron Paul is about to be unleashed! So keep your heads up.

THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


100%!


I will support the cause of freedom. No matter the form it takes

ditto
 
So your loyalty is to the GOP, not to Ron and his message? :confused:

No. I'm just being realistic here. The way for Paul to help this country best is to work within the framework of the GOP, not going the 3p route.

Before 2008 Ron Paul was a nobody. Now he's a somebody and you can bet every republican in congress will be wondering how he votes on the next bill so they can all have as conservative a record as he does. Ron Paul can lead the republican congress, he has political capital still. I just don't want him to waste it away running 3p and killing the conservative movement.
 
In a battle with British forces and his ship sinking beneath him, out-gunned, and out-numbered, the British Commander requested a full surrender from Captian Jones. His reply?

I HAVE NOT YET BEGUN TO FIGHT!

Captian John Paul Jones won the battle sinking the enemy man-o-war!

Never give up the ship!
 
No. I'm just being realistic here. The way for Paul to help this country best is to work within the framework of the GOP, not going the 3p route.

Before 2008 Ron Paul was a nobody. Now he's a somebody and you can bet every republican in congress will be wondering how he votes on the next bill so they can all have as conservative a record as he does. Ron Paul can lead the republican congress, he has political capital still. I just don't want him to waste it away running 3p and killing the conservative movement.

Your logic is flawed, if RP runs third party, he won't be killing the conservative movement, the Neocons running the GOP are killing the conservative movement. And every so called conservative that continues to support the neocon money pit known as Iraq, are the ones helping to kill the conservative movement too.
 
The way I look at it if I vote indy/libertarian/3p it's -1 vote against republicans.... if I vote dem it's -2 votes for republicans. I'd rather punish the repubs double. The dems will win in a landslide, this is unstoppable.

And when Obama/Clinton take away all our guns, increase taxes, force mediocre health care on us and force us more to the center in socialist programs and tax us to death.... and when they stop the war in Iraq and it becomes a non-issue for republicans, they will all cry for a conservative and a ron paul republican will emerge as our next president in 2012.

RP would be 77 years old in Nov 2012. I don't think the public would elect a 77 year old president. He would be 81 at the end of his first term. I think this is RP's last chance at the presidency.:cool:
 
Your logic is flawed, if RP runs third party, he won't be killing the conservative movement, the Neocons running the GOP are killing the conservative movement. And every so called conservative that continues to support the neocon money pit known as Iraq, are the ones helping to kill the conservative movement too.

There are a lot of people trying to kill the conservative movement. Look I'm not being down on Ron Paul, on the contrary I support him 100% after today. But not as a presidential candidate. I think we've run as far as we can, we don't have the media on our side, the people have been far too brainwashed and are just uneducated sheep unfortunately, and the establishment forces against us are just too great.

But that doesn't mean Ron Paul can't achieve many more victories, and those that follow in his footsteps can't achieve greatness and retake this party. And he doesn't even need to just focus on reforming the republican party, he can help/advise/endorse many other candidates of all party affiliations.

The point is, I support liberty 100% in any form it comes in, but I just hope Paul gracefully bows out and vows to keep this base together and continue this fight for when conservatives are ready for a change.
 
There are a lot of people trying to kill the conservative movement. Look I'm not being down on Ron Paul, on the contrary I support him 100% after today. But not as a presidential candidate. I think we've run as far as we can, we don't have the media on our side, the people have been far too brainwashed and are just uneducated sheep unfortunately, and the establishment forces against us are just too great.

But that doesn't mean Ron Paul can't achieve many more victories, and those that follow in his footsteps can't achieve greatness and retake this party. And he doesn't even need to just focus on reforming the republican party, he can help/advise/endorse many other candidates of all party affiliations.

The point is, I support liberty 100% in any form it comes in, but I just hope Paul gracefully bows out and vows to keep this base together and continue this fight for when conservatives are ready for a change.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=113160 <---- there's the answer
 
No, I'd vote Obama before McCain, and not because I like Obama, but because I wish to see the republican party self-destruct and hope that Ron Paul republicans are there to pick up the peices with the man Ron Paul himself leading those in congress.

Obamas going to lose.
 
The way I look at it if I vote indy/libertarian/3p it's -1 vote against republicans.... if I vote dem it's -2 votes for republicans. I'd rather punish the repubs double. The dems will win in a landslide, this is unstoppable.

And when Obama/Clinton take away all our guns, increase taxes, force mediocre health care on us and force us more to the center in socialist programs and tax us to death.... and when they stop the war in Iraq and it becomes a non-issue for republicans, they will all cry for a conservative and a ron paul republican will emerge as our next president in 2012.

I do believe in Libertarian Billionaires and 3rd Party Runs, I do, I do...

I do believe in Libertarian Billionaires and 3rd Party Runs, I do, I do...

I do believe in Libertarian Billionaires and 3rd Party Runs, I do, I do...

I do believe in Libertarian Billionaires and 3rd Party Runs, I do, I do...

I do believe in Libertarian Billionaires and 3rd Party Runs, I do, I do...




Ahhh, nah I don't... grew out of that and all other childish "Santa Claus" type fantasies LONG ago.


I believe it's time to stay ABOVE GROUND with Ron Paul, and get to work on TRUE revolution work, prepping the ground for the future.
 
Or what happens if there is a brokered convention and he threatens to run 3rd party, hence taking away a good percentage of the Republican vote? This isn't over by any means.

I hope everyone will be standing with me tomorrow!


I'm with ya on this. THE GOP NEEDS our MILLIONS of votes total after the primaries, and we will ONLY be voting for a conservative.

Dr. Paul needs to make demands, I certainly will decline my vote for the GOP unless it is as CONSERVATIVE movement in 2008 for November.
 
im in till the end.


its true though, he needed the GOP for the debates

but he still has a convention to attend.
 
how the hell you going to say the campaign hastn started?
its super F******* tuesday, even if it were a brokered convention, WE NEED TO WIN 5 STATES to participate! so i hear. gawd im so frustrated.....




ill still be here till the end though....
 
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There shouldn't be any party system. It's all a crock a' shit. Also, all the primaries should be held on the same day to eliminate the Media's contrivance-factor. Just vote for the smartest dude....all the way till November, even if Ron runs as Muckrakin' Democrat. Who gives a shit. Tomorrow is the beginning of the end for MSM's invisibility. We will destroy them from the Intestines out(they have no heart or soul).
 
I don't know, if he's not the president, I still want to have at least one voice of reason in Congress.

I'm torn.
 
I do not agree with a 3rd party run. And maybe I don't because I haven't seen or heard all sides of it. BUT, If Dr. Paul decides he wants to run on a 3rd party ticket...I will support him. I've always admired Dr. Paul for how intelligent he is. He knows what he's doing. Can't say the same for HQ though...but that's another thread.:)
 
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