Dial 911 and die - You will NOT believe this story.

[tggroo7]

I agree that this is absolutely horrible, but I think there is a little excessive speculation with this article saying that the officers tried to cover it up. The one officer asking the other where the victim's gun was is a weak argument for "commencing a cover up." What evidence was there of a cover-up other than the one guy saying "I got your back?" "I got your back" was probably just the one officer trying to calm down the other officer for the time being...I'd assume the officer that shot Tony was freaking out (hence the "Fuck" comment) and therefore, the other other guy just wanted to keep him calm. I can't say I wouldn't say the same thing after witnessing someone shoot a guy in the back and realize he's probably going to be in jail for a long time...I know I sure as hell wouldn't go apeshit on him, who knows what he would do or what was going through his mind.

Of course, the officers did majory fuck up in several different aspects, but calling it a cover up is a bold accusation with little evidence. If they were trying to cover it up, I would think their would be statements much more incriminating than just the two quoted in the article.

 

[BuddyRey]

What a horrifying story.

There is definitely a lesson here; the police are not always your friends, and bringing them into an active, unsolved conflict often does more harm than good.

 

[phill4paul]

 

[messana]

And he was cleared for it too.

A Phoenix police officer who mistakenly shot an armed homeowner during a search for an intruder was cleared of wrongdoing this week by a committee that reviews such shootings.

The ruling by the Phoenix Use of Force Board determined Officer Brian Lilly acted within police policy in the incident, in which he fired six shots at the homeowner amid the confusion of a home invasion last September.

The shooting hospitalized homeowner Tony Arambula, who earlier this year sought a $5.75 million settlement in the case.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2009/09/25/20090925phxarambula0925.html#

 

[SimpleName]

The Arambulas say the officers later dragged Anthony onto gravel, then put him on top of the hot hood of a squad car, and "drove the squad car down the street with Tony lying on top, writing in pain."

HOLY GOD! Can someone explain to me what the hell THAT is about? It is so outrage, it sounds like a joke. I don't even know if I can explain what I'm thinking. It sounds...just...what the hell? Threw him on the hood and drove down the road? When? The family didn't stop them? And for what goddamn reason?

 

[hvac ak47]

I agree that this is absolutely horrible, but I think there is a little excessive speculation with this article saying that the officers tried to cover it up. The one officer asking the other where the victim's gun was is a weak argument for "commencing a cover up." What evidence was there of a cover-up other than the one guy saying "I got your back?" "I got your back" was probably just the one officer trying to calm down the other officer for the time being...I'd assume the officer that shot Tony was freaking out (hence the "Fuck" comment) and therefore, the other other guy just wanted to keep him calm. I can't say I wouldn't say the same thing after witnessing someone shoot a guy in the back and realize he's probably going to be in jail for a long time...I know I sure as hell wouldn't go apeshit on him, who knows what he would do or what was going through his mind.

Of course, the officers did majory fuck up in several different aspects, but calling it a cover up is a bold accusation with little evidence. If they were trying to cover it up, I would think their would be statements much more incriminating than just the two quoted in the article.

"Sgt. Coutts was quick to commence the cover-up of their terrible mistake. Sgt. Coutts asked Office Lilly where Tony's gun was at the time Officer Lilly had opened fire on Tony. Officer Lilly admitted that he did not know where Tony's gun was: 'I don't know. I heard screaming and I fired.'"

Lilly later told a police internal affairs investigator that Anthony had pointed his gun in his direction, "in the 'ready' position,"

Keep in mind the pigs didnt know there was a recording and tryed to say the homeowner pointed the gun at them.

 

[pcosmar]

And he was cleared for it too.




http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2009/09/25/20090925phxarambula0925.html#

Wow,
The first story pissed me off,, but this,

A Phoenix police officer who mistakenly shot an armed homeowner during a search for an intruder was cleared of wrongdoing this week by a committee that reviews such shootings.

The ruling by the Phoenix Use of Force Board determined Officer Brian Lilly acted within police policy in the incident, in which he fired six shots at the homeowner amid the confusion of a home invasion last September.

Is incomprehensible.

Added to the list.
These people are my enemy, and will be considered as such.
No pity
No mercy
No remorse

 

[Anti Federalist]

There is definitely a lesson here; the police are not always your friends, and bringing them into an active, unsolved conflict often does more harm than good.

^^^That +1776

I can't stress that enough, you bring a bunch of trigger happy cops into a "hot" situation, and you or your family stand a good chance of being the ones who end up dead.

Do not call the cops, do not talk to the cops; they are not your friends, they are not there to help.

If you haven't already, watch this!!

YouTube - Dont Talk to Police

 

[Freedom 4 all]

Wow,
The first story pissed me off,, but this,

Is incomprehensible.

Added to the list.
These people are my enemy, and will be considered as such.
No pity
No mercy
No remorse

I think some strongly worded letters may be in order.

 

[mport1]

This type of stuff happens all the time. I'm not surprised at how these criminals acted. Usually we don't get a recording of it though.

 

[haaaylee]

another good reason to never hang up the phone after dialing 911 . . .

 

[amy31416]

another good reason to never hang up the phone after dialing 911 . . .

Or to not call 911 in the first place.

 

[Deborah K]

"Sgt. Coutts was quick to commence the cover-up of their terrible mistake. Sgt. Coutts asked Office Lilly where Tony's gun was at the time Officer Lilly had opened fire on Tony. Officer Lilly admitted that he did not know where Tony's gun was: 'I don't know. I heard screaming and I fired.'"

Lilly later told a police internal affairs investigator that Anthony had pointed his gun in his direction, "in the 'ready' position,"

Keep in mind the pigs didnt know there was a recording and tryed to say the homeowner pointed the gun at them.

How was that cop cleared? How was he cleared? How is that possible?

 

[pcosmar]

How was that cop cleared? How was he cleared? How is that possible?

You have to ask??

 

[Deborah K]

You have to ask??

Of course I have to ask! Isn't there a lawsuit pending? How can the police department justify clearing him when it's all on tape? The vic's attn'y will surely expose all of this. What in the hell are they thinking? Those cops should be suspended w/out pay and forced to do restitution on TOP of having the sh&t sued out of them.

 

[phill4paul]

WTF? The cop claims that the homeowner pointed the weapon at him in a ready position, yet he shot the man 6 times in the back?

I mean WTF????.

 

[Freedom 4 all]

Of course I have to ask! Isn't there a lawsuit pending? How can the police department justify clearing him when it's all on tape? The vic's attn'y will surely expose all of this. What in the hell are they thinking? Those cops should be suspended w/out pay and forced to do retribution on TOP of having the sh&t sued out of them.

In a perfect world that's exactly what would happen. In the real world police seeking justice for offenses committed by their own is about as likely as having the Crips return your wallet with a letter of apology. The only way police ever see justice is if WTP fight tooth and nail for it, and even then it's always some half assed punishment like 4 months in minimum security for outright murder.

 

[mport1]

Or to not call 911 in the first place.

Yes, calling the police should always be your last resort. There are countless people who have called the police for help who have ended up being harmed by them when they arrive.

Don't open the door for them, call them, or interact with them unless you really need to. They are often dangerous to your safety and really aren't concerned with helping you and they have no obligation to do so.

 

[Deborah K]

Yes, calling the police should always be your last resort. There are countless people who have called the police for help who have ended up being harmed by them when they arrive.

Don't open the door for them, call them, or interact with them unless you really need to. They are often dangerous to your safety and really aren't concerned with helping you and they have no obligation to do so.

I don't agree with this. The cops in my area are okay. Our experiences with them have been good ones. NOT saying we haven't had a few run-ins with them in the past. But that wasn't around here. They seem friendly and helpful around here. Which will be good when shtf.

I don't think it's a good idea for people to be encouraging a negative attitude toward ALL cops.

 

[squarepusher]

the cops are trained pitbulls, sure they are going to bite a childs head off once in a while. The high ups need the cops to be insane and the public scared, so of course they wouldn't actually make one take responsibility so they would think about their actions.