Constitution Day Moneybomb, Sep 17th. Planning, promotion and more promotion thread.

[Monique]

The problem with this money bomb is it takes place over 14 days. Is that what people think they are signing up for? I am confused as can be. Clearly that is what the originators of this money bomb are planning. They are not just planning the 17th. The facebook page is set up so the event will take place over 14 days. And 1042 people have claimed they are "attending" the event.

So, if you have a 14 day money bomb, will that build momentum?

 

[parocks]

I like the schedule, I think the one on Sept 17th should be some kind of mini bomb that leads up to the super bomb. (I don't know what a pre bomb would be called) Because even people that haven't maxed out are still going to donate to the super bomb. Then oct 19th and the rest could be our main bombs. Overall looks good

the official campaign money bombs are much, much more important.

I would argue that SuperPacs shouldn't even spend their time on moneybombs.

Just contact the people who have maxed out.

 

[cero]

The problem with this money bomb is it takes place over 14 days. Is that what people think they are signing up for? I am confused as can be. Clearly that is what the originators of this money bomb are planning. They are not just planning the 17th. The facebook page is set up so the event will take place over 14 days. And 1042 people have claimed they are "attending" the event.

So, if you have a 14 day money bomb, will that build momentum?

you have a point there
Could someone PLS FIX THAT on the facebook webpage SITE
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166449466757113
should be Saturday, September 17 at 12:00am To Sunday September 18 at 12:00am

 

[Monique]

I don't know how to promote a 2 week money bomb. I am lost. Also, won't this interfere with the Oct. 19th money bomb?

 

[cero]

monique is a mistake, just promote it like all the rest, is a one day moneybomb.
someone made a mistake when putting that in.


Edit: all right, so push for people to donate on the 17? but encourage them to help out for the end of quarter push?

 

[Monique]

No Cero. I have corresponded with Gage. It is definitely not a mistake. He got really upset when I suggested that he change it to one day. What he is doing is different. He is doing a "this is the end of the month and we need to get some money before the month is over" push.

 

[parocks]

Perhaps I need to explain about how a money bomb works. 1st, you have a website up with a pledge counter. That gets people excited. They can see those numbers grow and grow. When the are excited they work harder to make the numbers grow bigger. They do more work when they are excited. People wrote articles, and had blogs, and sent out emails and the word got out.

As the word got out people got more excited and more excited.

Then, on THE day, we watched the ticker fly! Every hour we were posting more and more amazing totals. It was thrilling. People who hadn't planned on it, donated again and again. And so did others. And the money kept rolling in. We were cheering each other and the campaign and it was sooooooooooooo much fun!!!

Sure, the campaign needs money all the time. But we are here to promote a money bomb. We can do this people. Doesn't anyone else have any enthusiasm?

Biggest money bomb had real events in real life. We would argue that that day was the first tea party event.

1) The moneybomb websites need to be much more functional. I personally don't do pledges. No reason to. But of course the moneybomb.com should have them.
But it should have much more.

2) Each of these moneybombs should have many corresponding events. Meetups have nothing to do, really, in most states at this time. But they want to do something.
Have a moneybomb event. "Constitution Day Party". A real event in a real place. Where old Ron Paul supporters can hand computers to the new Ron Paul supporters
and show them exactly how to contribute.

The website 1) should have many details about these events 2).

 

[MJU1983]

It's a one-day money bomb followed by an end of quarter push. I'd promote the money bomb and hope everyone will continue to contribute through the end of the quarter.

Maybe I'm missing something, but this shouldn't be difficult to promote.

 

[Monique]

Promote what money bomb? When you sign up for it on facebook it shows it as being a two week event. When you go to the website it says in huge letters it is a 2 week event. And that is what they want. An end of month push. But there is no reason not to push it as an end of month push like they want. However, if you push it as a one day event, they won't get all the money they want. IMO this is a mistake, because you lose all those donations people never meant to make during one huge event, but that is just my opinion.

What I find confusing, is that website also says it is a one day event in the tiny print, but still wants money for all 14 days. I am too confused by it all to know what I would be promoting.

 

[lucky_bg]

No, I also don't think it's mistake. It is a little bit diferent kind of moneybomb. There is reason it is called moneybomb plus the end of the quarter push. So, as I see it, we will promote it exactly like every other moneybomb. We will promote 17th as a date of a moneybomb as hard as we can. And we will hopefully make a huge sum on that day, something like 4-5-6 mill's, and then we will have the end of the quarter push for the next 13 days, with the ticker up all the time, adding donations to already huge sum, which will get us at least some media atention, and energize other potential donators to also be part of something very big and very sucessfull, and will hopefully double sum that's made on 17th. People just like to be part of the winning tim.

 

[parocks]

afw,

We don't want people to donate on several days. We need a big total for one day. If they want to donate on other days, having a one day money bomb won't hurt that, but having a push for the 17th through the 30th will hurt the money bomb. The campaign can do a push for other fundraising for the end of the quarter. Let's us do something that has the most impact.

We need a 9 million dollar day. We can do it.

This time around, we understand that money now is better than money later.

Money bombs are good, they give people something to do.

 

[MJU1983]

Promote what money bomb? When you sign up for it on facebook it shows it as being a two week event. When you go to the website it says in huge letters it is a 2 week event. And that is what they want. An end of month push. But there is no reason not to push it as an end of month push like they want. However, if you push it as a one day event, they won't get all the money they want. IMO this is a mistake, because you lose all those donations people never meant to make during one huge event, but that is just my opinion.

What I find confusing, is that website also says it is a one day event in the tiny print, but still wants money for all 14 days. I am too confused by it all to know what I would be promoting.

Everything I see points to Sept 17th. This is all I see to the end of month: "Following the moneybomb, an "End of Quarter Push" will be held from September 18-30"

Promote September 17th.

 

[parocks]

No, I also don't think it's mistake. It is a little bit diferent kind of moneybomb. There is reason it is called moneybomb plus the end of the quarter push. So, as I see it, we will promote it exactly like every other moneybomb. We will promote 17th as a date of a moneybomb as hard as we can. And we will hopefully make a huge sum on that day, something like 4-5-6 mill's, and then we will have the end of the quarter push for the next 13 days, with the ticker up all the time, adding donations to already huge sum, which will get us at least some media atention, and energize other potential donators to also be part of something very big and very sucessfull, and will hopefully double sum that's made on 17th. People just like to be part of the winning tim.

I like that idea too. It would work the same, but just keep the ticker up for 2 weeks.

And there should be constitution day events. Saturday Sept 17.

 

[Monique]

I have already sent out that website link to people and they don't get it. If they don't get it, it is too hard for me to try to explain that the website doesn't mean what it says, that facebook doesn't mean what it says, and they should ignore it all and do what I say.

I don't know how to push a 2 week event. That's ok. I will just go work on the October 19th Blackout one.

I am sure I am dead wrong and have no idea what I am talking about.

 

[lucky_bg]

It is true that last time's moneybombs came too late. We gave the campaign 4 million in November and 6 million in mid-December. The primaries happened in January. We were wrong to think that the campaign could somehow change the entire political landscape in less than 2 months. If the campaign could have that kind of cash right NOW, they could really get the momentum building. To tell you the truth, we're actually behind IMO. For a campaign that's not getting much media attention, we need a ton more cash to compete with the media anointed "top tier" candidates.

Also, we've found moneybombs to be the most effective way of raising funds for Dr. Paul. When we tell people to "just donate," they rarely do so. Moneybombs encourage them to pitch in.

Exactly my thoughts. I just wanted to hear it from someone else, because there are many confusing posts here. Bottom line, we don't need to question things that were working great last time, we need to keep doing them and to try to improve other aspects of the campaign.

 

[Monique]

Lucky, I agree the campaign needs money sooner rather than later. But how do we promote an "event" where we ask people to donate sometime between the 17th and the 30th? As Phoenix says, people don't really donate when we tell them to just donate.

Or is this a Sept. 17th money bomb, but hey, we need lots of money so try to donate on other days too if you can? I don't see that will do much better than the "just donate" concept.


Heck, if WE are confused, how will other people not be?

 

[lucky_bg]

I have already sent out that website link to people and they don't get it. If they don't get it, it is too hard for me to try to explain that the website doesn't mean what it says, that facebook doesn't mean what it says, and they should ignore it all and do what I say.

I don't know how to push a 2 week event. That's ok. I will just go work on the October 19th Blackout one.

I am sure I am dead wrong and have no idea what I am talking about.

What exactly you don't understand? The title of the event is 'Ron Paul's Constitution Day Money Bomb & End of Quarter Push'. So it is one day moneybomb plus additional 13 days donation push for the end of the quarter. If anyone don't understand, I think it is quite easyly to explain. Or just tell them to donate as much as they can on 17th. And this sort of arangment is also sort of answer to many people here asking for donation counter to be up all the time as mean of improving donations.

Edit Here is link to official event page on FB. 1046 people are already attending, which I think is great for short period of time. If they are 'attending' there is no reason to think they are confused in any way. We just need to get as many as we can 'attending' before 17th, and that is all we need to worry about.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166449466757113

 

[Monique]

If you think that is effective, great. I think people get excited when they see the ticker fly by in a matter of seconds. When you are getting 2 grand a minute or more it galvanizes people to donate more than they could. You don't have that if it comes trickling in.

But I was here last time and that is what worked then. What do I know?

 

[davidt!]

Lucky, I agree the campaign needs money sooner rather than later. But how do we promote an "event" where we ask people to donate sometime between the 17th and the 30th? As Phoenix says, people don't really donate when we tell them to just donate.

Or is this a Sept. 17th money bomb, but hey, we need lots of money so try to donate on other days too if you can? I don't see that will do much better than the "just donate" concept.


Heck, if WE are confused, how will other people not be?

It's not rocket science guys

 

[lucky_bg]

It's not rocket science guys

Amen!