Chris Christie signs bill banning gay conversion therapy

Wow that works out great for Christie. He can pass it off as saying that he is not one of those crazy homophobic republicans in the general, while saying that it had nothing to do with supporting gay marriage because it was just about protecting children during the primaries. Also that banning of the assault rifle should have the same effect.
 
If teenagers willingly want to go through this therapy, then he has no right to say they can't.
 
It seems to me that what this stops is parents from forcing their kids to undergo the "therapy," which I believe is straight up quackery. Parents shouldn't be allowed to force any child into such a heavily discredited practice.

Why do you feel that you have the right to raise someone elses child?
 
It seems to me that what this stops is parents from forcing their kids to undergo the "therapy," which I believe is straight up quackery. Parents shouldn't be allowed to force any child into such a heavily discredited practice.

Another authoritarian viewpoint.
 
It seems to me that what this stops is parents from forcing their kids to undergo the "therapy," which I believe is straight up quackery. Parents shouldn't be allowed to force any child into such a heavily discredited practice.

So, you think the state should raise the children. Think about it, because that is what you really are saying.
 
I feel people who identify as homosexual shouldn't be forced by parents to visit a quack against their own will. That's aggression against an individual.

Who says that they're "forced to?" Some of these kids, particularly teenagers, may want to get involved in this program.
 
Anyone who agrees with this is an authoritarian. Lets see how many atheists are going to be consistent on this.
 
I feel people who identify as homosexual shouldn't be forced by parents to visit a quack against their own will. That's aggression against an individual.

Actually, you are using the state to impose your personal beliefs on someone else. Isn't that called statism?

Parents should be raising their children; not the government.
 
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Who says that they're "forced to?" Some of these kids, particularly teenagers, may want to get involved in this program.

Are they still not allowed to seek this out if it's by their own will? If that's not the case, then I will back down from my position and disagree with Christie. I'm under the impression that it simply prohibits parents from forcing their children into it.
 
Are they still not allowed to seek this out if it's by their own will? If that's not the case, then I will back down from my position and disagree with Christie. I'm under the impression that it simply prohibits parents from forcing their children into it.

The bill bans gay conversion therapy for all "children."
 
Does this even work at all? If not, is Christie stopping what is basically fraud?

I mean, is it an infringement of our rights if the government stops a "Snake Oil" salesman or anyone else confirmed to be selling a bullshit product?
 
The bill bans gay conversion therapy for all "children."

All people should have the right to do or not do something, whether it's in their best interest or not, if they think it's what's best for them. I take back what I said, this is pretty authoritarian. It'd be one thing if it prevented parents from forcing children to get potentially harmful therapy against their own will, it's another thing to just ban everyone from doing it, even if it's their own decision.
 
It's a complete farce, but I still don't support banning it. If parents wish to subject their kids to what equates to child abuse, they can learn the hard way.
 
Does this even work at all? If not, is Christie stopping what is basically fraud?

I mean, is it an infringement of our rights if the government stops a "Snake Oil" salesman or anyone else confirmed to be selling a bullshit product?

It's not an infringment of your rights for someone else to send their child to a therapist to talk about their sexuality. Perhaps you should support Chris Christie for President in 2016.
 
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