BREAKING: mass shooting at elementary school

[bolil]

wheres your source? pochy? and answer my question now.

 

[James Madison]

Why are there lower rates of violence in Japan and other countries that banned guns?

The rate of violence is almost purely cultural in these cases.

Japan has a long history of isolation from the outside world, being an island nation. With few natural resources, Japanese culture adopted a highly collectivist mindset, whereby the individual is always second to the group as a whole. People learned to 'fall in line' because self-indulgence and individual expression could jeopardize the entire community. It's not just gun violence that's rare in Japan, it's all violence. Crime is virtually unheard of because of long-standing cultural taboos against selfishness, pridefullness, and greed. This is why Japanese people are so humble and polite and why they look negatively on people who are boastful, loud, and brash. It's great at times, but it comes at the cost of being an individual.

This is the exact opposite of America. With tons of resources and even more space, we're free to be who we choose to (not so much any more. whatever). With a culture of extreme individualism comes more crime, but it also leads to wealth, prosperity, and freedom. The Japanese never enjoyed freedom until recent decades, certainly never to the extent we used to have.

Switzerland has a low crime rate, as well. This is largely because they have a small, most homogenous population with many values in common. They've also chosen to abstain from every major war of the 20th and 21st Century. No war = no blood-lust. Again, it's cultural.

 

[Odin]

I need the source.

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You didn't provide one for your Japan assertion.

It is fairly common knowledge that the UK has higher rate of violent crime.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Why are there lower rates of violence in Japan and other countries that banned guns?

Japan is a weird culture. They pack people in at a density that drives all other animals, including humans, insane. If you put down a bag of groceries on the sidewalk and walk away, it will still be there in an hour. Guns are actually legal in Japan, but the legal BS to own one is incredible!

Compare this with, say, Jamaica, where guns were banned and confiscated - house to house style. And GASP! The firearms murder rate actually went down! - YEAH GUN CONTROL!!! ... Oh wait a min.. The actual violent crime rate, the murder rate - and hell crime in general, increased! How could that be? Well, people are adaptive, and with a populous unable to defend itself, the machete became the weapon of choice. Would you rather be murdered by being shot or hacked to death? Decisions, decisions... John Lott has written about this and I'm writing based on what I remember reading of him.

-t

 

[jkob]

I can't bring myself to watch the disaster porn

 

[XTreat]

Celebrities weigh in. Brace yourselves before you read this:

http://www.eonline.com/news/371720/...ooting-gun-control-demands-outrage-toward-nra

Jesus Christ. I just lost cognitive thought for 15 seconds.

 

[XTreat]

Why are there lower rates of violence in Japan and other countries that banned guns?

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I am in Korea where guns are banned, I have no evidence of this, but my Korean friends swear that people do indeed own guns and use them. They say the reports of non-violent society in the east is a fake creation of media and government.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I can't bring myself to watch the disaster porn

Jesus Christ. I just lost cognitive thought for 15 seconds.

Mommie got you hun. Just lean over and let me cradle your head. Let all that bad stuff out. Sing to the porcelain god!

I know what you mean - I'd rather be Rick Rolled!

Please post stronger warnings next time....

-t

 

[UWDude]

Crime is virtually unheard of because of long-standing cultural taboos against selfishness, pridefullness, and greed. This is why Japanese people are so humble and polite and why they look negatively on people who are boastful, loud, and brash. It's great at times, but it comes at the cost of being an individual.

Sounds neat, but false.
Ever hear of the Yakuza?

 

[James Madison]

Sounds neat, but false.
Ever hear of the Yakuza?

I've heard of the video game...

And, yes, I'm sure there's been some crime in Japan's centuries of existence.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Sounds neat, but false.
Ever hear of the Yakuza?

Population is higher than I would have thought.

Yakuza, 102,400 members
Pop of JP: 127,817,277

so 1 in every 1.25 Thousand citizens are a member. I've also read that they wear distinctive tattoos that the general population recognizes and stays the hell away from!

But then again, on the Internet, no one really knows you are a dog.

-t

 

[Natural Citizen]

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[A_Silent_Majority_Member]

you awake hands bound in the back of a van with a cell phone to your ear.
"we have your family." a strange voice says.. you hear your mothers sobs on the other end.
the strange voice then instructs you to do a task or your family will pay the price. you hesitate only to hear the bang and your mothers cries of agony.
you contemplate taking your own life as sacrifice but are informed any attempt to do so will result in dire consequences for your mother and any remaining family.

what would you do?

the strange voice continues to give you further instructions.. a set of pistols is offered to you.. you contemplate taking matters into your own hands to maybe shoot your way out but are assured that just as attempting to take your own life would result in your families deaths, this action to will have the same consequence.

what would you do?

you are informed that one of your captors will accompany you in this venture and upon completion you and your family will be set free.

what would you do?

the task at hand is revealed to be of such atrocity, how can anyone do this? yet your hesitation has now just costed a family members life and a countdown begins for the next in line.

what would you do?

... breaking news... shots fired, many dead.. shooter dead..second gunman(who always later vanishes).. how could this happen? why? more laws to be enacted soon after as usual.

stranger than fiction indeed.

 

[XTreat]

Sounds neat, but false.
Ever hear of the Yakuza?

You should go to the Korean or Japaneses war museums. You think ours is a bloody history? A culture of non-violence? Hardly.

 

[A_Silent_Majority_Member]

another thought on US gun crime statistics.. gangs...guns.... drugs.... drug war..... hmmmm.

 

[papitosabe]

The government doesn't go around causing these horrible things.

gov't doesn't allow chemicals in ours and our kids food to ingest?, they don't allow fluoride in our drinking water?, gov't doesn't allow our kids to be put on prescription? drugs at an early age?, gov't doesn't allow mercury fillings in our teeth?.... all those issues affect brain function and cause mental issues... GOV'T studies may say its safe, but we all know its bullshit...it affects some more than others....we all know someone close to us with mental issues...the gov't makes money on our mental issues... could other problems have caused this person to go off like this, most likely, but to say the govt's hands are clean I would say is a blind belief..

 

[UWDude]

Population is higher than I would have thought.

Yakuza, 102,400 members
Pop of JP: 127,817,277

so 1 in every 1.25 Thousand citizens are a member. I've also read that they wear distinctive tattoos that the general population recognizes and stays the hell away from!

But then again, on the Internet, no one really knows you are a dog.

-t

Next look up "Hells Angels" membership. I think they only have like 4000 members.
The four major biker gangs combined probably only have 8-9000 members.
MS-13, the most notorious Mexican gang, IIRC, "only" has 24,000 members.

 

[UWDude]

I've heard of the video game...

And, yes, I'm sure there's been some crime in Japan's centuries of existence.

Japan has crime. Japan has lots of crime. Both violent and white collar. Drugs and prostitution.
EVERYWHERE has crime.

 

[papitosabe]

""

I am in Korea where guns are banned, I have no evidence of this, but my Korean friends swear that people do indeed own guns and use them. They say the reports of non-violent society in the east is a fake creation of media and government.

RUN, now! or that will probably the last post of your life....

 

[anaconda]

Celebrities weigh in. Brace yourselves before you read this:

http://www.eonline.com/news/371720/...ooting-gun-control-demands-outrage-toward-nra

Celebrities simply must be government operatives.