Bible mentions NWO why do christains no accept our ideas ?

[Wendi]

The bible talks about the NWO.
During The Tribulation, Antichrist is going to rise to power, and there will be a one-world government, of which he will be the dictator. And in the middle of that Tribulation period, he is going to require everyone on the Earth, according to Revelation 13 to receive a mark on their right hand or forehead which will mean they acknowledge him, not only as their dictator, but as their god. Without that mark they will not be allowed to buy or sell anything for the remainder of the Tribulation period. And then, at the every end of that time, his world empire which he has built will began to crumble, and he is going to fight, literally, against Jesus Christ. He is going to call Christ down out of heaven. Jesus will come back at The Battle of Armageddon, and with His Word, is going to totally obliterate all of the forces of Antichrist and the Devil. We read about that in Revelation 19. Today we are studying Revelation 17. Chapters 17 and 18 go together to portray the destruction of the world empire of Antichrist. This is not the next thing on God's time table, but it is something we need to understand: that before this chapter can take place, a one-world government must emerge. We find here a beast, symbolizing one-world government, and we also find a woman riding on the beast who symbolizes religion that is not pleasing to God.

Why are we considered nuts when we mention that we are moving towards this. Should Paul point this out? Whether you believe in the bible or not someone understand human nature.

Because the vast majority of Christians are more comfortable ignoring the book of Revelation and listening to those feel-good preachers that say it doesn't matter because we'll be "rapured" out of this world before anything bad happens. This is also why so many of them think going to war in the middle east is a good thing - they're convinced we can bring on armageddon and God will "rapture" us sooner

And no, as tempting as it is, I don't think Paul pointing this out would do us much good in the voting booth

 

[Sematary]

The bible talks about the NWO.
During The Tribulation, Antichrist is going to rise to power, and there will be a one-world government, of which he will be the dictator. And in the middle of that Tribulation period, he is going to require everyone on the Earth, according to Revelation 13 to receive a mark on their right hand or forehead which will mean they acknowledge him, not only as their dictator, but as their god. Without that mark they will not be allowed to buy or sell anything for the remainder of the Tribulation period. And then, at the every end of that time, his world empire which he has built will began to crumble, and he is going to fight, literally, against Jesus Christ. He is going to call Christ down out of heaven. Jesus will come back at The Battle of Armageddon, and with His Word, is going to totally obliterate all of the forces of Antichrist and the Devil. We read about that in Revelation 19. Today we are studying Revelation 17. Chapters 17 and 18 go together to portray the destruction of the world empire of Antichrist. This is not the next thing on God's time table, but it is something we need to understand: that before this chapter can take place, a one-world government must emerge. We find here a beast, symbolizing one-world government, and we also find a woman riding on the beast who symbolizes religion that is not pleasing to God.

Why are we considered nuts when we mention that we are moving towards this. Should Paul point this out? Whether you believe in the bible or not someone understand human nature.

Being an atheist and someone who has actually read up on this specific section of the bible I have come to some conclusions. So here is what I think.

If you think about it - what is every Christian waiting for? They are waiting for the return of Christ to begin his reign of 1000 years. Correct? It is prophesied in the bible - they WANT it to happen. That would be tantamount to having all of your dreams come true. Correct? So WHY would they want to slow it down or stop it? If anything, as Huckleberry as shown, I would EXPECT them to PARTICIPATE in hastening the coming of a world government so that they day when they could reside in the kingdom would come as quickly as possible.
Just a thought.

 

[Ginobili]

I have to admit it... I was an ex-main stream christian :*(. Only 17, but w/e.
Most of the people at my church mainly go because they did it as a kid, its become a habit. I try to press Ron Paul there, but, from what i've seen, it only phases the young people. The older people (not all) simply seem to have been told lies by the goverment, and been fed christianity all their life, that, true or not, they are going to believe it. When your told the same thing for 30, 40, 50+ years, it becomes the "truth", true or not. And I think these people like being told what the truth is, what is good, whats bad, because they have never had to think for them selves.

In school, you rarely have to think for your self. In (modern) church, you rarely have to think for yourself. With the news, you let them think for you, and its become a habit to just accept what you hear with unquestioning loyalty. And when some one like Huckabee comes along, who is mislead just like you, he seems EXTREMELY appealing, much more so then this "Ron Paul guy..." who is out there thinking, using common sense, and not saying what every one else says.

War is Peace.
Ignorance is Freedom.
(what was the third one agian?)

 

[SovereignMN]

I am a born-again evangelical Christian. People need to realize that Christians are no different than ALL other groups of people in this country...we are human and we are not perfect. Thus, like ALL other groups in this country (atheists, blacks, whites, jews, etc) we are easily led astray by the lies and deceits of this world.

 

[hopeforthefuture]

I'm a Christian - I think that I have the answer that you're looking for.
If you're a Christian I'm sure that you know the answer too:

Almost every Christian that I know goes to Fox exclusively for their news. Nothing else.

We have to change this or we all know what is going to happen.

SO TRUE! I even had a pastor say from the pulpit that he only watches Fox! It's supposedly the "conservative" news channel. Sometimes I feel like jumping up in church and just start telling everyone how deceived they are.

 

[Give me liberty]

Because Christians believe that the real antichirst is in the middle east
Which has been proven fasle

They even thought that saddam was mabus and he was the Antichrist lol

 

[moostraks]

Being an atheist and someone who has actually read up on this specific section of the bible I have come to some conclusions. So here is what I think.

If you think about it - what is every Christian waiting for? They are waiting for the return of Christ to begin his reign of 1000 years. Correct? It is prophesied in the bible - they WANT it to happen. That would be tantamount to having all of your dreams come true. Correct? So WHY would they want to slow it down or stop it? If anything, as Huckleberry as shown, I would EXPECT them to PARTICIPATE in hastening the coming of a world government so that they day when they could reside in the kingdom would come as quickly as possible.
Just a thought.

Wow...okay major misinterpretation on your part here. I am a Christian and the last place I want to be or want my children to be is here when the stuff hits the fan as Jesus promised would occur.

 

[minitri97]

um....ok, lets see
Noahs Ark
Water into wine
parting the red sea
oh, yeah, and dieing on the cross and then magically rising to heaven.

Thats why I have problem with what the bible says.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

I am under the impression that christians welcome the end times, they seek the second comming of jesus, and thats why they are trying to establish a new world order, and all the fighting in the holyland.

 

[moostraks]

I see a good deal of broad brush painting being done of Christians on this forum. We are not all Huckabee supporters. Most of those are duped by their feel good McChurches to believe that G*d has ordained minister Huckabee. That is why he singlehandly creeps me OUT!! You could not make a B movie which reads any cheesier than his forum does sometimes(and yes I know the difference from the spoof one!!) These are the Christians you will never be able to draw in. They think that Paul is all about whore houses and pro-abortion. You would explain states rights until you're blue in the face and they would still not get it....FOX owns them. They forgot (or never learned) that Jesus sat with the sinners and the whores and never gave a whits worth of care what others thought. He gave people a choice, and told you the consequences of each choice, but he let you choose...

For the atheist sceptics, take a read of the book of Revelations. Might rock your world just how much things are coming together. The writing is on the wall, all we can do is postpone things. This is why real Christians hear Dr.Paul speak and are in love. The man walks the talk.

The road is hard and no one likes to sacrifice anything. I can't understand why they think that G*d of the Bible promises personal prosperity and ease in our earthly body. I am tired of a bunch of individuals thinking they have a right to promise the blood of my children to fight their Holy War. This is not how we as Christians are called to react to others.

Many of the Christians you could get to relate to Dr.Paul dropped out of society or never joined. They are the members of the Peace churchs. It would be hard to get them past the level of distrust they have for the government and anyone who seeks office...

 

[cageybee]

The bible talks about the NWO.
During The Tribulation, Antichrist is going to rise to power, and there will be a one-world government, of which he will be the dictator. And in the middle of that Tribulation period, he is going to require everyone on the Earth, according to Revelation 13 to receive a mark on their right hand or forehead which will mean they acknowledge him, not only as their dictator, but as their god. Without that mark they will not be allowed to buy or sell anything for the remainder of the Tribulation period. And then, at the every end of that time, his world empire which he has built will began to crumble, and he is going to fight, literally, against Jesus Christ. He is going to call Christ down out of heaven. Jesus will come back at The Battle of Armageddon, and with His Word, is going to totally obliterate all of the forces of Antichrist and the Devil. We read about that in Revelation 19. Today we are studying Revelation 17. Chapters 17 and 18 go together to portray the destruction of the world empire of Antichrist. This is not the next thing on God's time table, but it is something we need to understand: that before this chapter can take place, a one-world government must emerge. We find here a beast, symbolizing one-world government, and we also find a woman riding on the beast who symbolizes religion that is not pleasing to God.

Why are we considered nuts when we mention that we are moving towards this. Should Paul point this out? Whether you believe in the bible or not someone understand human nature.

Ron Paul is Jesus?

 

[moostraks]

um....ok, lets see
Noahs Ark
Water into wine
parting the red sea
oh, yeah, and dieing on the cross and then magically rising to heaven.

Thats why I have problem with what the bible says.

What about a premonition that 2000+ years in the future you would get a mark on the hand or forrehead to be able to trade and having them invent a microchip that is being used right now that does this very thing???

 

[minitri97]

What about a premonition that 2000+ years in the future you would get a mark on the hand or forrehead to be able to trade and having them invent a microchip that is being used right now that does this very thing???

LOL, tell ya what, I'm gonna make 5000 statements that I think will happen in the next 2000 years....you think I will find people in 2000 years that will skew them to be true?

 

[minitri97]

And by the way, I have no mark on the hand or microchip.

 

[bomybomy]

I'm a Christian - I think that I have the answer that you're looking for.
If you're a Christian I'm sure that you know the answer too:

Almost every Christian that I know goes to Fox exclusively for their news. Nothing else.

We have to change this or we all know what is going to happen.

This is accurate, with the older "been in church all my life" types. I deal with it a lot.

 

[liberty_Forever]

I am a Christian, and no, I don't want a theocracy. I just want to live in peace.

Personally, I do not take the Bible *literally*, however there are mythical features which appear to be coming true. These myths warn Christians on how to take care of ourselves and others. I do believe the NWO is real and we must resist those who do violence and evil upon mankind. The whole details, the "Bible-debunkers" miss the point because Christianity is about the message of forgiveness and compassion, like all true human religions.

Of course I do not believe the Earth is 4000 years old. . . I just want to live in a world of positive human values such as kindness.

I respect Athiests, Muslims, Jews, etc ,and I enjoy sharing the world with others, but I do not respect those (the NWO) who wish to manipulate the world for their own selfish evil purposes.

 

[zr4]

um....ok, lets see
Noahs Ark
Water into wine
parting the red sea
oh, yeah, and dieing on the cross and then magically rising to heaven.

Thats why I have problem with what the bible says.[/QUOTE

An interesting fact is there have been chariot wheels found at the sight that are from the time period of the parting of the Red Sea.

 

[DarkLaw]

The so-called 'Mark of the Beast - which will be displayed in the people's RIGHT hand...

is the national REAL ID. What hand do you hand your driver's license to someone with?

Duh.


And I'm sooooo not religious. But wanted to make a point.

 

[moostraks]

And by the way, I have no mark on the hand or microchip.

Did not say you did...Just said that one is to uncanny for me. Don't see how you can get any other view on it.

Revelation 13:17 (New International Version)
17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name
The technology is being used. Now why in the world other than true revelation would an old man on an island 2000 years ago forsee this technology??

Furthermore:Revelation 16:2 (New International Version)
2The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly and painful sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.

Guess what- the nifty little biochip causes cancer and rejection reactions because it is a foreign synthetic material.

They are wanting to use it for prisoners and the military, they are already using it on Alzheimers patients, and they will sell it to new parents on the same fear factor as this Holy War. You wouldn't want little Johnny to be kidnapped because you did not protect him, right? First they force it on those who can't refuse, then they sell you on what a great improvement it will be to your life, then you will have no choice. We are in phase 1-2.No, I don't think people are reading into these scriptures any tea leaf prophecies, but do as you chose. Just like voting for Paul, I will do my best to provide my children with a safe and secure future and leave the rest to G*d's will....

 

[bkreigh]

um....ok, lets see
Noahs Ark
Water into wine
parting the red sea
oh, yeah, and dieing on the cross and then magically rising to heaven.

Thats why I have problem with what the bible says.[/QUOTE

An interesting fact is there have been chariot wheels found at the sight that are from the time period of the parting of the Red Sea.

I havent heard of that. Is there any documentation? Im not saying that you are not telling the truth i just havent heard of it.

What about the others problems minitri has problems with? These are also questions i have with bible along with others. I am an atheist but am open to learn. I honestly cant get out of the first book before i start calling shenanigans on the bible.