Bible mentions NWO why do christains no accept our ideas ?

[Redcard]

There are benefits to the living. If there was NO benefit it wouldn't be. I don't pretend to know what the benefits are but one just for example would be hope or faith. When you think and feel those positive things there are real physical benefits to it.

I just don't understand why people don't educate themselves and seem so unconcerned with facts and truth. There are other ways of being positive and having those feelings than just believing in some god because that's what you were taught to do.

Religion seems to thrive on ignorance and brainwashing. What if nobody ever told you Santa Clause wasn't real? Knowing there's no such thing, you find it ridiculous. You probably didn't when you were young ignorant and brainwashed though...

You're missing my point. I'm agreeing with you. I love life. I live to the fullest. The problem is, many christian churches out there teach that Christ's salvation is the MOST IMPORTANT THING BAR NONE. Forget Mission work (Unless you can get souls, too, which happens a lot now.. convert to Jesus and you get to eat.. convert to Jesus and your family gets a place to sleep.. convert to Jesus, and we'll give you security so your daughter doesn't get raped on the way to school.) Now, it's all about the Rapture, the end times, and the lake of fire.

So when I say that it is a death cult, understand that if I take two equal people, and set one on a path of doing good deeds, feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, healing the sick, protecting the innocent, and strengthening the weak.. and I set the other into a path of jealous American consumerism.. then you'd think the first person was the more holy person.

BUT.. if I said the first person was an atheist, and the second person said the Sinner's Prayer at the McMegaChurch.. then the people in the McMegaChurch, the ones who are voting for Huckabee and the Republican party, would tell you that all the things that the first person did are for naught. Only the second person gets the Kingdom of Jesus, and his own personal Mansion.

That's right. I've been to these churches. Some of the sunday school things they did involve telling children to "Design their Mansion In Heaven"

 

[tommy7154]

Yah I understand...any christians going to answer my first question?

 

[moostraks]

I try not to get upset at these religious posts and I try to keep my mouth shut but please try and understand how hard it can be for an atheist.

For example, say I made a post about a purple sky fairy that predicted a bunch of stuff and it talked to me. You would all think I was batshit crazy, correct? Or am I wrong? Why would I be considered a lunatic for praying and talking to this fairy and preaching it's word when other religions are so acceptable? Simply because there are more of you that believe in the Christian God YOU are right and I am insane?

Somebody explain this to me please....logically, if possible.

I really don't mean to be an ass, it just baffles me.

The same way I do not go out and say all thoseatheists. I know some people worship trees and nature...If it floats their boat...I relate to them on some teaching philosophy so we talk on that level. Now if they were to say something deragatory about myreligion I would defend myrightand mylogicfor mybeliefs.

My issue has been with the reasoning by some that they have to have everything coached in their frame of reference and this in a thread on end times Bible views. Not just that but quite apparently now some individuals believe we should be analyzing which sects fall under which umbrella terms.

I think we should target the purple sky fairy worshippers too, if they have something in common with our candidates views and would consider voting. If I posted something on purple sky fairy worshippers and they posted back I would expect others to utilize what they could and not call their veracity into question. This helps Dr.Paul how???Nor would I go to great lengths trying to qualify what a purple sky fairy worshipper is or is not depending on the particular churchs view of the fairy.

 

[Kade]

Like I said earlier, Kade.

Christianity is a death cult.

Its leader died.

It offers no benefit for the living, but promises everything to the dead.

Its followers want the end of the world because they then get the reign of Jesus.

It goes beyond that... I could go for hours on this subject.

Let's not forget that the cult itself removes itself from any actions that society and the moral zeitgeist have disapproved of, even though their holy book promotes the activities.

Burning witches, Selling daughters into slavery, raping and pillaging defeated tribes, slavery....etc

There is no greater a slavery than to live your life guided by the belief that you are deserving of some imaginary gift for servitude to an imaginary slavemaster. It is with the promise of things one cannot see or touch, bartering on the greatest fiat known to man, for the corruption of the concept of purpose. Hardwork and effort are poured into it, a blackhole, devoid of real tangible substance, and these people receive a promise of goods that they will never receive.

It is the greatest scam ever conceived by man.

 

[moostraks]

It goes beyond that... I could go for hours on this subject.

Let's not forget that the cult itself removes itself from any actions that society and the moral zeitgeist have disapproved of, even though their holy book promotes the activities.

Burning witches, Selling daughters into slavery, raping and pillaging defeated tribes, slavery....etc

There is no greater a slavery than to live your life guided by the belief that you are deserving of some imaginary gift for servitude to an imaginary slavemaster. It is with the promise of things one cannot see or touch, bartering on the greatest fiat known to man, for the corruption of the concept of purpose. Hardwork and effort are poured into it, a blackhole, devoid of real tangible substance, and these people receive a promise of goods that they will never receive.

It is the greatest scam ever conceived by man.

Wow...sad that this is how you view it...Misuse has been done by most of the great religions. Guess it is easier when you are an atheist because you only have your own history to account for...As a Christian you are automatically lumped with every hateful act that has been committed in the name of your religion....

 

[moostraks]

Yah I understand...any christians going to answer my first question?

I think I did....

 

[Redcard]

Wow...sad that this is how you view it...Misuse has been done by most of the great religions. Guess it is easier when you are an atheist because you only have your own history to account for...As a Christian you are automatically lumped with every hateful act that has been committed in the name of your religion....

Yeah.

It sucks having to defend yourself against what the people you associate do, doesn't it? But, hell, you're still taking shit from your own God for Eve eating the stupid apple.

And yes, when you're an atheist, you DO have ONLY your own history to account for. Isn't that more freedom? I mean, instead of getting blamed for a one-ribbed woman who ate an apple that a talking snake convinced her to eat thousands of years ago, you actually only get blamed for what you did?

 

[moostraks]

You're missing my point. I'm agreeing with you. I love life. I live to the fullest. The problem is, many christian churches out there teach that Christ's salvation is the MOST IMPORTANT THING BAR NONE. Forget Mission work (Unless you can get souls, too, which happens a lot now.. convert to Jesus and you get to eat.. convert to Jesus and your family gets a place to sleep.. convert to Jesus, and we'll give you security so your daughter doesn't get raped on the way to school.) Now, it's all about the Rapture, the end times, and the lake of fire.

So when I say that it is a death cult, understand that if I take two equal people, and set one on a path of doing good deeds, feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, healing the sick, protecting the innocent, and strengthening the weak.. and I set the other into a path of jealous American consumerism.. then you'd think the first person was the more holy person.

BUT.. if I said the first person was an atheist, and the second person said the Sinner's Prayer at the McMegaChurch.. then the people in the McMegaChurch, the ones who are voting for Huckabee and the Republican party, would tell you that all the things that the first person did are for naught. Only the second person gets the Kingdom of Jesus, and his own personal Mansion.

That's right. I've been to these churches. Some of the sunday school things they did involve telling children to "Design their Mansion In Heaven"

We agree more than disagree I believe, but I am Christian. I do not think it is for me to judge anothers salvation.(Quite frankly why would this issue even matter to an Atheist? I thought they just had this existence.) Christianity is only a death cult if you preceive it that way. Really it is a glass full, glass empty argument you have. If what you worship is end time prophecy then you really missed the boat (not you personnally , those who do). They really are just signs on the road map that we are missing the mark and need to reevaluate the course we are on,imho. I think we should exemplify good character and avoid compromising situations, the rest is extraineous and puts your motivation on the wrong track.

I think we are held accountable for our actions if we do nothing to change the current state of affairs, this is my opinion. If an atheist reads this then they should say ,"Great, now I know an avenue how to approach this issue, but who or where are these beliefs prevalent?" Not spending countless hours trying to prove why they are superior to others who have this belief...This is not exactly the character of an atheist who is doing the magnanimous actions you are portraying, but rather one who has a low self esteem and must restore themselves at the cost of others...Unfortunately, Atheistis like Christians, usually the loudest mouths are the worst examples...

 

[moostraks]

Yeah.

It sucks having to defend yourself against what the people you associate do, doesn't it? But, hell, you're still taking shit from your own God for Eve eating the stupid apple.

And yes, when you're an atheist, you DO have ONLY your own history to account for. Isn't that more freedom? I mean, instead of getting blamed for a one-ribbed woman who ate an apple that a talking snake convinced her to eat thousands of years ago, you actually only get blamed for what you did?

Once again...short sighted vision...You really are a pleasant person to converse with....You have all the freedom in the world, so do I. I can make any choices I want to...Like you I will reap the rewards and consequences, we just come at life through two different angles. I have a source of strength that I can draw on other than my own reserves when things don't go well. My existence really is not the pathetic one you seem to believe I dwell in.

 

[Kade]

Wow...sad that this is how you view it...Misuse has been done by most of the great religions. Guess it is easier when you are an atheist because you only have your own history to account for...As a Christian you are automatically lumped with every hateful act that has been committed in the name of your religion....

No offense my friend. I don't want to lump you into a group. If you believe in "live and let live" then I have no problem with you or what you believe...

I have no problem or issue with Christians who are tolerant, loving, kind, and just. I don't know many though. I do believe the world is big enough for all of us... I'm pointing my anger towards those that would pursue their inherent insanity to the ends of earth, and smother anyone who comes in the way...

 

[moostraks]

No offense my friend. I don't want to lump you into a group. If you believe in "live and let live" then I have no problem with you or what you believe...

I have no problem or issue with Christians who are tolerant, loving, kind, and just. I don't know many though. I do believe the world is big enough for all of us... I'm pointing my anger towards those that would pursue their inherent insanity to the ends of earth, and smother anyone who comes in the way...

Thank you!!! I have the Coexist sticker on the back of my van. It would probably anger a lot of "thumpers". I was once Wiccan, so I probably have more tolerance towards other views than most born, raised and always Christians. I do not say this to pat myself on the back, just to acknowledge that I personnally reasoned my way to where I am at and can understand that everyone follows their own path in life....

FWIW I am angry with the doomsday cult too....

 

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Lol!!! No I don't worship Nostrodamus...I can't discuss why someone believes Christianity without using some text to back it up. If some one does not like it they can ignore it, it really is not directed to them. Live and let live, you know??? Seems in real poor taste to be disrespecting peoples religion if your goal is to get the good doctor elected. Save it for the anti-whatever forums and spread the love there..

If the average Christians and Muslims were to wake up and realize they are being played against each other like a bunch of suckers in the bogus war on terror, the goal of getting the good doctor elected would be immensely easier to achieve. People are dying and our freedoms are being destroyed because the followers of these manmade religions have been led to believe their actions are justified by God.

Religions are tools of social and political control, nothing else. No one knows the true nature of God. Anyone who claims to be speaking or writing His words is yanking your chain for their own benefit. Critical thinkers who have any inkling of knowledge about the immense and deep corruption that has existed in our governments for centuries and millenia should realize that a religious system of beliefs created by men is just another corrupt tool of control. How could anyone possibly think that world religions are not part of the NWO plan? Do you really think that the plan for world domination that has been in the works for centuries would not include spiritual enslavement alongside economic and political enslavement?

Do you believe that the mainstream media is part of the what's happening regarding the NWO, or do you think the mainstream media is completely objective and neutral politically? If you think TV is part of the problem, and under the control of the NWO, do you really think that out of the kindness of their hearts they would call a timeout for several hours every Sunday morning for the last seven or so decades and broadcast the truth into our living rooms? Why do you think movies like the Ten Commandments and guys like Billy Graham get primetime slots on TV?

I'm not trying to disrespect anyone. I know what you believe and understand how powerful it is. I've totally been there. However, the only way the rEVOLution is successful is if we take it all the way. Religions are corrupt at the core. God is awesome. Relgions just capitalize on people's instinctual belief in Him. Religions convince people to believe in the religion and equate that with believing in God. And if you don't accept that particular religion as the true path, you are a non-believer and destined to be shut out of the good life after you die. It's an extremely powerful tool. The more centuries that pass, the more entrenched it becomes and people are conditioned from cradle to grave.

 

[moostraks]

If the average Christians and Muslims were to wake up and realize they are being played against each other like a bunch of suckers in the bogus war on terror, the goal of getting the good doctor elected would be immensely easier to achieve. People are dying and our freedoms are being destroyed because the followers of these manmade religions have been led to believe their actions are justified by God.

Religions are tools of social and political control, nothing else. No one knows the true nature of God. Anyone who claims to be speaking or writing His words is yanking your chain for their own benefit. Critical thinkers who have any inkling of knowledge about the immense and deep corruption that has existed in our governments for centuries and millenia should realize that a religious system of beliefs created by men is just another corrupt tool of control. How could anyone possibly think that world religions are not part of the NWO plan? Do you really think that the plan for world domination that has been in the works for centuries would not include spiritual enslavement alongside economic and political enslavement?

Do you believe that the mainstream media is part of the what's happening regarding the NWO, or do you think the mainstream media is completely objective and neutral politically? If you think TV is part of the problem, and under the control of the NWO, do you really think that out of the kindness of their hearts they would call a timeout for several hours every Sunday morning for the last seven or so decades and broadcast the truth into our living rooms? Why do you think movies like the Ten Commandments and guys like Billy Graham get primetime slots on TV?

I'm not trying to disrespect anyone. I know what you believe and understand how powerful it is. I've totally been there. However, the only way the rEVOLution is successful is if we take it all the way. Religions are corrupt at the core. God is awesome. Relgions just capitalize on people's instinctual belief in Him. Religions convince people to believe in the religion and equate that with believing in God. And if you don't accept that particular religion as the true path, you are a non-believer and destined to be shut out of the good life after you die. It's an extremely powerful tool. The more centuries that pass, the more entrenched it becomes and people are conditioned from cradle to grave.

So after my posts do I really come across as the televangelist follower?? FWIW You need to understand my relationship with Christianity is not what seems to be coming across. I am deeply spiritual,but do not attend church. I believe in the Bible for instruction, but I also believe revelation is still available to those who chose to avail themselves to it. The government says I claim to be Christian because I do not go to church.(Yes this is actually true, so believers like me tread lightly...) I do not believe religion lies within the church but the individual and their relation to divine guidance and their fellow man.

That said I believe that Christ was the divine come to earth as man. I also believe that the Bible provides signposts to the people of earth to realize how far we have fallen from the right path of the golden rule. Like Noah's flood this belief is a core belief in most religions. I do not worship the cross, I try to emulate the being who gave a tremendous sacrifice to show people that even when you are persecuted, nailed to a cross for an offence you did not commit, you still do not retaliate. I think some concepts about the cross don't sit well with me, but I have a charred fanny from atheists I don't need Christians to be flaming me...

I am perpelexed why when I state that a true Christian is what Dr.Paul is, seems to bring out the most vindictiveness in Atheist/non-theists. You all do know he is a Christian right? Why in the world you would want to vote for someone who is so ignorant in your view as to misunderstand what you see as core life concepts perplexes me. Unless you understand, in your being, that what he is fighting for rings true to your humanity. This is the divine knowledge you personnally posess. Dr.Paul could call himself the purple people eater cult member but his past reflects one that real Christians attempt to emulate...freedom for all...harm none.

I do not trust the media, and nor do I agree with most organized religion. However, everyone has their place in life and has lived a different past than my own. It is not for me to judge. There is way too much cooperation taking place now openly between religion and government. Now homeland security will use the pulpit to disperse information to keep the sheep calm. That is creepy in more ways than one. The churchs have sold out...I still think there a few good ones left but they are few and far between.

I think that the viciousness of the religious community to be G*d's favorite child has led to a geat deal of grief. You need to target your frustration towards opening the eyes of people who do not value peace over profit. This mess we are in is because of profiteers, and they are willing to use any method available. The Atheist and Non-Theist community is not immune.

 

[Redcard]

You'll have to forgive us, Moostraks.

Your religion is nothing like what Christ taught , now. So when you say you're a Christian, you do yourself more harm than not. Saying you're a true Christian like Dr. Paul is somewhat meaningless to people who are atheist and agnostic. We've heard people call themselves true christians and do nasty things.

Now, that aside, the original question is , why do Christians not(sic) accept our ideas?

The answer is, because Christians who vote, Christians who get Bush elected, Christians who drive the anti-abortion argument and the anti-gay argument and the anti-agenda argument .. those Christians who now represent your religion.. they WANT the NWO. Because the NWO means they are about to suffer the Tribulation.. which means they're about to get their Mansions in Heaven with a wide screen TV in every room.

They don't CARE what they have to go through on this earth, because their rewards are in the next.

So please understand that when you say you're a "True Christian", that's meaningless. Your religion has been co-opted so badly that the name "Christian" is now nearly a curse word.

Show us who you are by your actions, and your works. Tell us what you believe. (And yes, you just did.. thanks!)

Now, as it stands, Dr Paul is against the seperation of church and state.. if his voting record is to be believed. I understand that you don't want government and religion mixing, but I think it's fair that Dr Paul doesn't share that opinion, and he wants it left up to the states.

In the end though, the religion you identify with is a death cult.

 

[Kade]

You'll have to forgive us, Moostraks.

Your religion is nothing like what Christ taught , now. So when you say you're a Christian, you do yourself more harm than not. Saying you're a true Christian like Dr. Paul is somewhat meaningless to people who are atheist and agnostic. We've heard people call themselves true christians and do nasty things.

Now, that aside, the original question is , why do Christians not(sic) accept our ideas?

The answer is, because Christians who vote, Christians who get Bush elected, Christians who drive the anti-abortion argument and the anti-gay argument and the anti-agenda argument .. those Christians who now represent your religion.. they WANT the NWO. Because the NWO means they are about to suffer the Tribulation.. which means they're about to get their Mansions in Heaven with a wide screen TV in every room.

They don't CARE what they have to go through on this earth, because their rewards are in the next.

So please understand that when you say you're a "True Christian", that's meaningless. Your religion has been co-opted so badly that the name "Christian" is now nearly a curse word.

Show us who you are by your actions, and your works. Tell us what you believe. (And yes, you just did.. thanks!)

Now, as it stands, Dr Paul is against the seperation of church and state.. if his voting record is to be believed. I understand that you don't want government and religion mixing, but I think it's fair that Dr Paul doesn't share that opinion, and he wants it left up to the states.

In the end though, the religion you identify with is a death cult.

+10

Flawless. The "True Scotsman" fallacy is still alive and well. Whoever easiest explains to others in the most barbed memetic way, wields a powerful sword.

People's beliefs are vastly complicated. If I poke into any evangelicals beliefs, before the third sentence, they are exposed as absurd.

Example:

"True" Christian: Jesus is the only way to salvation.

Rationalist: What do you mean by salvation?


TC: Saving someone from the torments of hell, gaining life through fellowship with Christ and an eternity in Heaven.

Rationalist: That's interesting. Where exactly do these places exist?

TC: *points* up and down. (Very common response)

Rationalist: That's interesting. You do know that the representative space above in "up" and below us in "down" change as the Earth rotates... Does Heaven exist in the thin layer between the troposphere and sub-orbit?

TC: You're going to hell.

The common Christianity, and the Christians know damn well who they are... they are a death cult. They are the 52% who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old. They are the large majority who believe in a Hell as an eternal torment. If God is somehow personified in this whitebearded virgin molesting essence, with a hippie -like son who rose from the dead...the ones who either attack the Pope or worship the Pope, depending on their version of the insanity, Protestant or Catholic.

Again they know who they are, because they are the ones most offended with a challenge to their "faith".

Let us all rejoice in how tolerant we must be to those that are willing to reject empirical evidence, reason, and rational discourse, in place of faith, the very process of unthinking.

 

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So after my posts do I really come across as the televangelist follower??

Nah, but those are the people I'm talking about. You obviously have a clue. I don't care what people believe spiritually, if they're true Patriots. You seem to be.

This mess we are in is because of profiteers, and they are willing to use any method available. The Atheist and Non-Theist community is not immune.

This mess we are in is not because of the profiteers, it's because the average Christian sheeple are gullible and believe & trust the profiteers who are in control of their governments and religious institutions. The profiteers include those who lead Christians to believe that they can sit by and do nothing because Jesus is going to save them. The Christians who sit by idly waiting for the rapture are as much of an obstacle to the rEVOLution as atheists who support socialism.

 

[Dave Pedersen]

I can understand your analogy , however...

I dont go around trying to turn others against God. I dont go around trying to get other people to do dangerous things. I dont molest other people. I dont murder other people. I'm quite respectful of everyones religions and beliefs***. I don't hate God. I believe there is some kind of God or creator but I am not part of any religion. I dont worship or pray to a God. I actually believe that its probable that Jesus existed - Im quite open minded . I just dont think I believe in the Bible.

So this means I am going to be destroyed or be sent to hell forever right? I think that is a little harsh LOL .

I once had a conversation with a vicar and he said that someone who all his life murdered people , molested and tortured children etc but suddenly belived in God on his deathbed would get into heaven yet someone who lived their lives helping others ,living as a saint really, didn't particularly believe the bible would go straight to hell for eternity . When he said that i couldn't believe it. He basically told me that Heaven could very well have millions of child molester's and murders floating around (or whatever you do in heaven )and hell could have millions of really nice people in there being tortured etc . Kind of made me sad and not like God too much .


*** I wouldnt normally be part of this discussion, out of respect for other people's beliefs , but I am sincerely interested in this aspect of God and religion. Im not trying to undermine your religion.

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There is so very much false teaching about Christianity it is pathetic. I recommend you study with the Shepherd's Chapel for at least six months and then a lot of the normal and reasonable objections to Christianity will be washed away by sound teaching. Everyone goes to heaven. No one is destroyed until the end of the millennium. So then there is much work to do to understand the sentiments and intentions of our Father.

www.shepherdschapel.com

Wash away the lies and know the truth and the truth will set you free.

 

[Kade]

There is so very much false teaching about Christianity it is pathetic. I recommend you study with the Shepherd's Chapel for at least six months and then a lot of the normal and reasonable objections to Christianity will be washed away by sound teaching. Everyone goes to heaven. No one is destroyed until the end of the millennium. So then there is much work to do to understand the sentiments and intentions of our Father.

www.shepherdschapel.com

Wash away the lies and know the truth and the truth will set you free.

If it were not for the concept of hell, I never would have questioned my faith in the first place. I would probably still be a believer, having never looked at the facts.

 

[Dave Pedersen]

If it were not for the concept of hell, I never would have questioned my faith in the first place. I would probably still be a believer, having never looked at the facts.

Hell is badly misunderstood by most Christians and they spread terrible lies about our Father due to their misapprehension of hell and judgment.


The lake of fire is the place of final and total and permanent destruction of the soul. It is the place where those who deliberately and willfully reject God go AT THE END OF THE MILLENNIUM.

The important point which is so often missed is the fact that during the millennium we are not in flesh bodies. We are not subject to the limited temporary flawed situation of the flesh. We will be in perfect incorruptible bodies for one thousand years under the just rule of Christ. So then those who still after such an opportunity refuse love and life and honor and decency and the principles of freedom and justice will DIE the second death. No constant conscious torment or torture, simply annihilation.

This is the death of the soul and many will be destroyed at that time because they love to destroy. Father did not make this wonderful universe and His wonderful children to live among rabid evil destroyers. No.. He will ultimately have to destroy some of His own children so that you and I can live in peace throughout all time.

 

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+10

Flawless. The "True Scotsman" fallacy is still alive and well. Whoever easiest explains to others in the most barbed memetic way, wields a powerful sword.

People's beliefs are vastly complicated. If I poke into any evangelicals beliefs, before the third sentence, they are exposed as absurd.

Example:

"True" Christian: Jesus is the only way to salvation.

Rationalist: What do you mean by salvation?


TC: Saving someone from the torments of hell, gaining life through fellowship with Christ and an eternity in Heaven.

Rationalist: That's interesting. Where exactly do these places exist?

TC: *points* up and down. (Very common response)

Rationalist: That's interesting. You do know that the representative space above in "up" and below us in "down" change as the Earth rotates... Does Heaven exist in the thin layer between the troposphere and sub-orbit?

TC: You're going to hell.

The common Christianity, and the Christians know damn well who they are... they are a death cult. They are the 52% who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old. They are the large majority who believe in a Hell as an eternal torment. If God is somehow personified in this whitebearded virgin molesting essence, with a hippie -like son who rose from the dead...the ones who either attack the Pope or worship the Pope, depending on their version of the insanity, Protestant or Catholic.

Again they know who they are, because they are the ones most offended with a challenge to their "faith".

Let us all rejoice in how tolerant we must be to those that are willing to reject empirical evidence, reason, and rational discourse, in place of faith, the very process of unthinking.

My biggest problem is the idea of an immensely powerful and all knowing God that needs his ego stroked continuosly, and you will suffer for eternity and be punished if you don't stroke it. It's absurd. That's not what God is all about.

Q: How do you get people to follow you, live their lives in a manner you decree, tithe 10% of their incomes to you, spread the belief to as many others on the planet as possible, and ensure your (and your descendants) grip on them lasts in perpetuity by making them believe they will suffer beyond imagination after they die if they don't do as you say?

A: Write a manual for them to follow that outlines those things and say it's God's words.