'Best Pollster in Politics' releases final Iowa poll tonight at 5:30.

[CPUd]

Some of you need to take a step back and stop caring about this polling data. If not for the polls, would you have any reason to doubt Rand's ability to do well in Iowa and New Hampshire? The caucus is in two days, the results will speak for themselves.

Sure, polling is usually somewhat accurate. This election cycle is an abnormal one in all regards. Celebrity has taken over. Do you really believe Trump will get 30% of the vote? I'll believe it when I see it. My guess is that it is more likely than not that his voters do not show up.

The poll showing that only 5% of those included voted for Ron Paul in 2012 proves that our polling is being under-reported. By how much, we won't know until Monday/Tuesday. In that poll it was by 20%.

You need to realize this is a caucus. 40% of people are still not firm in their choice of candidate. The vast majority of those caucusing are not like you and I. They do not have their mind set and do not know everything there is to know about every candidate. What matters is getting our people out and making sure they have compelling speeches to give in Rand's favor. The people in Iowa will be listening to their neighbors and then deciding their vote. It is still very fluid.

In my opinion, turning out thousands of young people with over 1,000 precinct captains with finely tuned speeches has the potential to sway many voters. Those showing up will respect that the younger generation is participating and it will have an effect.

We can only hope for the best. This poll changes nothing. We have 48 hours. Make some calls if you are worried.

QFT

 

[Jamesiv1]

Yeah whatever, I don't buy that shit.. Ron seemed to enjoy getting out and talking to young people. I would think this even more so when you got a socialist like sanders out here fooling all these young people. Especially given the fact it would be an opportunity to help his son achieve what he didn't.

You're right. You could tell he enjoyed seeing the light come on, especially in young people.

I can sure cut him some slack if he doesn't want to though. A few good reasons:

1. He's 80-years old
2. He's been in politics since 1976
3. He probably doesn't want to overshadow his son, the guy who is running for president.
4. I'm sure being in public life, and often mocked by the establishment takes a toll on one's family.
5. Politics stole a lot of time from his wife and grand-kids. If I were him, I would say "screw that shit" and cherish every moment I've got left.

He's still writing, and doing the weekly Ron Paul Report.

Let the man enjoy his autumn years, and ride that bicycle on familiar trails.

 

[rich34]

If he enjoyed it so much why doesn't he do it for himself? Ron doesn't need to campaign for Rand in order to give speeches.

I obviously can't speak for the man, but I can't imagine he'd so easily give the inroads he made with young people so easily. If he comes out and says so fine. I can deal with it, but if not well. Somebody fudged up or miscalculated.

 

[Patrick Henry]

Isn't Dr. Paul's daughter extremely ill? Maybe that is why as well. That would probably keep me from doing it.

 

[Rudeman]

I obviously can't speak for the man, but I can't imagine he'd so easily give the inroads he made with young people so easily. If he comes out and says so fine. I can deal with it, but if not well. Somebody fudged up or miscalculated.

All I'm saying is if he genuinely enjoyed doing it for himself there was no reason for him to stop. He doesn't need to be campaigning for himself or anyone else to do it. He may have enjoyed it while campaigning but it probably wasn't something he would go out of his way to do, especially at his current age.

Now writing books or doing his reports is something he has continued to do because it appears that is something he enjoys or at least isn't as taxing as traveling around the country giving speeches.

 

[helenpaul]

this is a pro establishment poll, from an establishment newspaper pushing rubio, so its probably worthless. regardless, Rand hass made huge mistakes by acting like rubio is a saint. if he doesnt finish ahead of rubio, he is history.

 

[francisco]

Some of you need to take a step back and stop caring about this polling data. If not for the polls, would you have any reason to doubt Rand's ability to do well in Iowa and New Hampshire? The caucus is in two days, the results will speak for themselves.

Sure, polling is usually somewhat accurate. This election cycle is an abnormal one in all regards. Celebrity has taken over. Do you really believe Trump will get 30% of the vote? I'll believe it when I see it. My guess is that it is more likely than not that his voters do not show up.

The poll showing that only 5% of those included voted for Ron Paul in 2012 proves that our polling is being under-reported. By how much, we won't know until Monday/Tuesday. In that poll it was by 20%.

You need to realize this is a caucus. 40% of people are still not firm in their choice of candidate. The vast majority of those caucusing are not like you and I. They do not have their mind set and do not know everything there is to know about every candidate. What matters is getting our people out and making sure they have compelling speeches to give in Rand's favor. The people in Iowa will be listening to their neighbors and then deciding their vote. It is still very fluid.

In my opinion, turning out thousands of young people with over 1,000 precinct captains with finely tuned speeches has the potential to sway many voters. Those showing up will respect that the younger generation is participating and it will have an effect.

We can only hope for the best. This poll changes nothing. We have 48 hours. Make some calls if you are worried.

QFT, +rep

 

[01000110]

this is a pro establishment poll, from an establishment newspaper pushing rubio, so its probably worthless. regardless, Rand hass made huge mistakes by acting like rubio is a saint. if he doesnt finish ahead of rubio, he is history.

He's blasted Rubio on immigration and defense spending in every single debate.

 

[simon1911]

IMHO, Rand must finish top 3 to stay in the fight. If he doesn't, this country doesn't deserve the Paul's. Liberty requires virtuous people and it was clear back in 08 then reminded in 12 and possibly now that we no longer value the things that has made us exceptional.

 

[01000110]

IMHO, Rand must finish top 3 to stay in the fight. If he doesn't, this country doesn't deserve the Paul's. Liberty requires virtuous people and it was clear back in 08 then reminded in 12 and possibly now that we no longer value the things that has made us exceptional.

Problem is terrorism is the #1 issue (according to the media)... and the people who are scared shitless want someone who will carpet bomb the middle east into oblivion.

Rand isn't that guy... people are brainwashed, unfortunately.

 

[helenpaul]

He's blasted Rubio on immigration and defense spending in every single debate.

Not nearly enough. every time he mentioned trump or cruz he wasted time, money, and votes.

 

[01000110]

Not nearly enough. every time he mentioned trump or cruz he wasted time, money, and votes.

Ugh. No, I cannot agree. Rand has called Trump and Cruz out for what they are... it's not his fault people are brain dead.

 

[RonPaulRules]

Sadly if Rand finishes below 2, his campaign will most likely be over.

 

[CPUd]

Sadly if Rand finishes below 2, his campaign will most likely be over.

 

[CPUd]

 

[simon1911]

Problem is terrorism is the #1 issue (according to the media)... and the people who are scared shitless want someone who will carpet bomb the middle east into oblivion.

Rand isn't that guy... people are brainwashed, unfortunately.

I agree. And yet we are leaving the border unsecured while convincing the masses to give up their rights with warrantless surveillance, indefinite detention, CISA, etc. Then of course, the empire building, or dare I say imperialism around the world. Nothing good will come out of all this.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

Sadly if Rand finishes below 2, his campaign will most likely be over.

His campaign was supposed to be likely over when he didn't qualify for or participate on the Fox Business debate. Or meant to be over if he didn't raise as much, or if he didn't vote certain ways on key issues, and so on and so forth. And yet, here he is.

 

[65fastback2+2]

Isn't Dr. Paul's daughter extremely ill? Maybe that is why as well. That would probably keep me from doing it.

yes, and I would heavily think so

 

[69360]

I think this poll will prove to be about right. I think Rand will finish 5th but with a bit more than 5%. Maybe 7% or so. Maybe, just maybe he could squeak out a 4th place, Carson is sinking fast.

 

[nikcers]

I think this poll will prove to be about right. I think Rand will finish 5th but with a bit more than 5%. Maybe 7% or so. Maybe, just maybe he could squeak out a 4th place, Carson is sinking fast.

LOL even fox says that Rand will finish higher then he is polling.