Gary Johnson polling at 16% in Iowa, 14% in NM, 16% in Utah, 19% in Alaska

CBS/NY times national poll from the other day had Gary at 12%

Kind of amazing that in most polls 20% will not vote Trump or Clinton.
 
CBS/NY times national poll from the other day had Gary at 12%

Kind of amazing that in most polls 20% will not vote Trump or Clinton.

Yep. The latest statewide Colorado poll had the two main candidates polling at just 65% combined. Even with every advantage the system and the media give them, the Rs and the Ds are still sliding into the hole there and throughout much of the West, New England, and parts of the Midwest.
 
2-way polling that has either of them over 40% should be looked at carefully. They are usually adding soft leaners after pushing.
 
2-way polling that has either of them over 40% should be looked at carefully. They are usually adding soft leaners after pushing.

That does seem to be the case. All the polls I've been a part of (three so far) have been like this Reuters poll, with two tiers of candidates: ClinTrump first, followed by a second follow-up question including Johnson (and sometimes Stein.) But even with a two-tiered candidate poll which clearly favors the main parties, Johnson is garnering big poll numbers in a large number of states. If Drew Carey's and Bill Weld's fundraisers raise a lot of money, the Republocrats may have some serious competition this fall.
 


He also says in the comments that there's a 70% chance no one gets a majority.
 
Indeed. And 538 didn't even include either of the two 13% polls Gary received. Even without those two polls counted, he's climbing.
 
If it is like in 2012.. I will vote for Gary Johnson... I guess =\.... I don't really like Gary Johnson too much, but its more like a protest vote ;s. It would be interesting to see if the LP can get higher than 1.5% this year.
 
lol...

Ron was a very rare politician/philosopher. Most philosophers have no inclination to run for office and it often goes against their principles. Hell, even Ron had to compromise on principles occasionally.

Johnson/Weld are politicians. I'm ok with that as politicians tend to do much better electorally and, while they are far from a Ron Paul, they do appear to place on the Libertarian side of the Nolan Chart.
Yes, because we all know the Nolan Chart is the best litmus test. :rolleyes:

I find these numbers encouraging. There are as many reasons to vote for X as there are voters. Some vote for, others against, and many don't even give a second thought beyond whatever leaned them in a direction in the first place. It is what it is.

The opportunity for freedom lovers is to reach these new eyeballs and bring them further into the tent...

Trump remains an authoritarian gas bag, without a clue on how government actually works, and I laugh any supporter of his talking about freedom like they actually care about it more than their particular pet peeve...
Oh yes, the Trans Pacific Partnership is such a liberty-based document, isn't it? And so is its international ruling body that will be yet another above our own Congress. So is bringing in more unvetted Middle-eastern and other "refugees" from countries who have a large number of people who wish us dead.

Personally, I think that has much more in common with Communism than liberty. But, to each their own.
 
Yes, because we all know the Nolan Chart is the best litmus test. :rolleyes:


Oh yes, the Trans Pacific Partnership is such a liberty-based document, isn't it? And so is its international ruling body that will be yet another above our own Congress. So is bringing in more unvetted Middle-eastern and other "refugees" from countries who have a large number of people who wish us dead.

Personally, I think that has much more in common with Communism than liberty. But, to each their own.

You keep acting like Johnson is a full throated proponent of TPP, yet ignore the "based on what I know" qualification of the answer he gave in the latest politico article, as well as his repetition that the free market is better and his references to crony capitalism...
 
Add Georgia to the list of states where Gary's polling at or above 10% now: Johnson's at 11% in the new Abt-SRBI poll, taken at the beginning of this month.
 
The highest poll nationally I have viewed is Gary Johnson at 14%. It seems the polling companies are never going to include Gary Johnson on the first question.
 
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