Ben Carson Thinks Joseph Built the Pyramids.... WTF?

[anaconda]

Carson was referring to the popular former TV game show:

 

[Ronin Truth]

How long did it take Joseph to build them, according to Ben?

 

[Philhelm]

If I recall correctly, building the Pyramid wonder in a Civ game confers a food production bonus. Perhaps Carson isn't so crazy after all?

 

[idiom]

When did the slavery of the Jews in Egypt begin .................................... supposedly?

Right after Joseph enslaved every single fucking person in Egypt. Genesis 47. It wasn't the Hebrews (the Jews were only one of the 13 tribes) that were slaves, it was everybody. And it was because of FUCKING JOSEPH.

 

[idiom]

Being slaves in Egypt isn't clearly supernatural. If you believe it isn't supported by actual evidence, why is that?

Now it's "the entire Hebrew race"? That's not what you said before. Nobody, including the Bible, ever said that the entire Hebrew race was ever enslaved in Egypt.

Have you read, like, any of the Bible?

And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father and thy brethren are come unto thee:

6 The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell;

Josephs entire family, the ancestors of the Hebrews moves to Egypt

Wherefore shall we die before thine eyes, both we and our land? buy us and our land for bread, and we and our land will be servants unto Pharaoh: and give us seed, that we may live, and not die, that the land be not desolate.

20 And Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh; for the Egyptians sold every man his field, because the famine prevailed over them: so the land became Pharaoh's.

21 And as for the people, he removed them to cities from one end of the borders of Egypt even to the other end thereof.

Joseph enslaves the fuck out of Egypt.

Ergo, Joseph set up the system that would lead to the Hebrews being slaves along with everyone else.


Anybody who references Joseph in any sort of good light needs to be kept the hell out of government.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Ergo, Joseph set up the system that would lead to the Hebrews being slaves along with everyone else.

Anybody who references Joseph in any sort of good light needs to be kept the hell out of government.

Actually, the Bible explains it was the forgetting or abandonment of the ways of Joseph by the next generation of rulers that led to the enslavement of the Israelites:

"Now a new king arose over Egypt, who did not know Joseph. He said to his people, "Behold, the people of the sons of Israel are more and mightier than we. "Come, let us deal wisely with them, or else they will multiply and in the event of war, they will also join themselves to those who hate us, and fight against us and depart from the land." So they appointed taskmasters over them to afflict them with hard labor..." Exodus 1:8-11

 

[erowe1]

Have you read, like, any of the Bible?



Josephs entire family, the ancestors of the Hebrews moves to Egypt



Joseph enslaves the fuck out of Egypt.

Ergo, Joseph set up the system that would lead to the Hebrews being slaves along with everyone else.


Anybody who references Joseph in any sort of good light needs to be kept the hell out of government.

Where did you get the idea that Joseph's family were the ancestors of the Hebrews? There were many other descendants of Eber in the world at the time that Jacob's family went down to Egypt.

Yes, Ive read the Bible.

Where do you get your ideas of morality that dictate that anyone who references Joseph in a good light should be kept out of government? And who here did that anyway?

And since when is buying someone's land the same as enslaving them? They sold the land voluntarily. And they benefited from doing so.

 

[idiom]

And since when is buying someone's land the same as enslaving them? They sold the land voluntarily. And they benefited from doing so.

They sold the land and themselves, to avoid starving to death, in exchange for food they had grown that Joseph had taken.

Voluntarily.

"buy us and our land for bread, and we and our land will be servants unto Pharaoh"

 

[idiom]

Actually, the Bible explains it was the forgetting or abandonment of the ways of Joseph by the next generation of rulers that led to the enslavement of the Israelites:

The Bible actually says they kept the ways of Joseph, they just forgot him. The systems he set up led to the enslavement of his family.

26 And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part, except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaoh's.

27 And Israel dwelt in the land of Egypt, in the country of Goshen; and they had possessions therein, and grew, and multiplied exceedingly.

So basically the descendants of Israel fell victim to the unintended consequences of the abuses of power by one of their patriarchs.

 

[YesI'mALiberal]

26 And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part, except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaoh's.

20-20-20!

 

[Peace&Freedom]

The Bible actually says they kept the ways of Joseph, they just forgot him. The systems he set up led to the enslavement of his family.

Joseph's instituting a law regarding the treatment of the land, is not the same thing as a later ruler instituting enslavement in his treatment of the people. Nor is it established in any way from the text that one led to the other. Ex 1:8-11 does not suggest land considerations led them to enslave---it was forgetting Joseph and fearing the people that did.

 

[TheNewYorker]

If I recall correctly, building the Pyramid wonder in a Civ game confers a food production bonus. Perhaps Carson isn't so crazy after all?

Pyramids: Tile improvement construction speed increased by 25% and 2 Workers appear near the City

 

[enhanced_deficit]

If I recall correctly, building the Pyramid wonder in a Civ game confers a food production bonus. Perhaps Carson isn't so crazy after all?

I know little about 7DA but skeptics could be underestimating divine truths that Dr. Ben Carson CEO MD may have access to.



Ben Carson has a painting of him with Jesus

November 8, 2015

Ben Carson has this painting of him with Jesus in his home in Upperco, Md.

 

[YesI'mALiberal]

BRODY: How is that conversation going with God about this potential presidential run? Has He grabbed you by the collar yet? I read an article about that.

CARSON: I feel fingers. But, um, it’s mostly me. I have to be sure. And I have a surgical personality which says always look before you leap, and don’t leap before you have to.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

BRODY: How is that conversation going with God about this potential presidential run? Has He grabbed you by the collar yet? I read an article about that.

CARSON: I feel fingers. But, um, it’s mostly me. I have to be sure. And I have a surgical personality which says always look before you leap, and don’t leap before you have to.

He has come a long way. Before he developed surgical personality, he used to have a younger personality that leaped to stab someone without looking at belt buckle.

 

[idiom]

Joseph's instituting a law regarding the treatment of the land, is not the same thing as a later ruler instituting enslavement in his treatment of the people. Nor is it established in any way from the text that one led to the other. Ex 1:8-11 does not suggest land considerations led them to enslave---it was forgetting Joseph and fearing the people that did.

Yeah the Egyptian people had absolutely no memory of who swindled them out of their land. They hated the children of Israel purely for being Jewish and were jealous of them.

 

[erowe1]

They sold the land and themselves, to avoid starving to death, in exchange for food they had grown that Joseph had taken.

Voluntarily.

Heaven forfend that somebody who risks starving to death should be allowed to sell their property in exchange for food.

 

[Bman]

You have a whole slew of morons who believe the big bang theory so why not?

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Yeah the Egyptian people had absolutely no memory of who swindled them out of their land. They hated the children of Israel purely for being Jewish and were jealous of them.

Since the text says Joseph had been forgotten (as the events of the Exodus were hundreds of years later), it means he had been forgotten, period. A transaction is not a swindle---one could counter argue that by accepting drought-ravaged, almost valueless land as payment, it was Joseph and the government who got the bad end of the bargain.

Compared to the purchase of Manhattan Island by the colonists, the Egyptian people got a better deal (enough life saving seeds to save the population in exchange for barren land, whereas the Native Americans got no where near the same value). As for bondage, I don't like the decision made by the Egyptians, but it was also part of the transaction. I thought the secular libertarian doctrine of some here was "I own myself." If that's true, what's wrong with selling yourself into slavery?

 

[Ronin Truth]

Was Ben taught that in church?