Rand one-ups Ben Carson on the pyramids (joke)

[jkob]

I know some of you guys have your own personal beliefs but most people think this pyramid grain silo idea is pure nuttery and that narrative should be ran with against Carson who is building quite a record of weird ass comments and half-baked beliefs. I don't care what the pyramids were used for or who built them, aliens are probably a better answer than grain silo but whatever all I care about is beating Ben Carson. Carson isn't going to drop out, he's dominating the polls and money so lets not worry about an endorsement that will never come. I think Carson probably expects Rand to endorse him when he drops out not the other way around.

 

[jmdrake]

I know some of you guys have your own personal beliefs but most people think this pyramid grain silo idea is pure nuttery and that narrative should be ran with against Carson who is building quite a record of weird ass comments and half-baked beliefs. I don't care what the pyramids were used for or who built them, aliens are probably a better answer than grain silo but whatever all I care about is beating Ben Carson. Carson isn't going to drop out, he's dominating the polls and money so lets not worry about an endorsement that will never come. I think Carson probably expects Rand to endorse him when he drops out not the other way around.

Any why do you think the great pyramid was built? Are you one of those stupid idiots like on morning Joe that thinks it was a tomb?

 

[William Tell]

Any why do you think the great pyramid was built? Are you one of those stupid idiots like on morning Joe that thinks it was a tomb?

Lets go with whatever the government schools say. The government/education/scientific complex is always right. They love us.

 

[Jan2017]

You know, I think mocking people is a bad strategy

I like humor in a campaign . . . this is a pretty safe topic for Rand to get a dig in / pile on . . .
SNL skit forthcoming to be sure. Everyone kinda throwin' Ben under the bus now.

Rand needs to focus on crop circles. Try and get Carson to engage.

Carson should focus on WTC 7.

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[William Tell]

There is as much mystery as fact surrounding the cereal grain known as Kamut.

“The origin of Kamut is thought to have occurred contemporary with the free threshing tetraploid wheats, and is considered to be an ancient relative of modern durum wheats (R. Quinn pers. commun. 1995). The identification of Kamut has been confusing, at least two scientists identify it as Triticum turgidum, ssp. polonicum another as Triticum turgidum, ssp. turanicum. More recently, taxonomists specializing in wheat from the U.S. and Russia have identified Kamut as T. turgidum, ssp. durum, genomic constitution AABB (Table 1), or similar to an Egyptian cultivar `Egiptianka’. The inflorescence is somewhat less dense than wheat. The spikelet lemmas have strong long black awns and the glumes have a distinct black acuminate beak. The stem immediately below the inflorescence is characterized by a distinctive wavy morphological trait (Fig. 2). Kamut kernels are twice the size of wheat kernels and are characterized by a distinctive hump shape.”
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The story of Kamuts discovery in modern times seems fairly well documented; the story of its ancient roots however remains elusive.​

Sources agree that Kamut grain was found in a pyramid in Egypt (probably Dahshur or Saqqara). Some kernels were given, sold or maybe just found by a US airman who sent them to his father who was a wheat farmer in Montana. This first introduction was somewhere around 1940 and sad to say not a real success.

https://ancientfoods.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/kamut-ancient-grain-or-modern-find/

 

[ds21089]

I know some of you guys have your own personal beliefs but most people think this pyramid grain silo idea is pure nuttery and that narrative should be ran with against Carson who is building quite a record of weird ass comments and half-baked beliefs. I don't care what the pyramids were used for or who built them, aliens are probably a better answer than grain silo but whatever all I care about is beating Ben Carson. Carson isn't going to drop out, he's dominating the polls and money so lets not worry about an endorsement that will never come. I think Carson probably expects Rand to endorse him when he drops out not the other way around.

I still cant believe his favorability ratings are so high when he's attempted to stab somebody and has changed the story of how it happened at least 3 times.

 

[jmdrake]

The story of Kamuts discovery in modern times seems fairly well documented; the story of its ancient roots however remains elusive.
Sources agree that Kamut grain was found in a pyramid in Egypt (probably Dahshur or Saqqara). Some kernels were given, sold or maybe just found by a US airman who sent them to his father who was a wheat farmer in Montana. This first introduction was somewhere around 1940 and sad to say not a real success.

https://ancientfoods.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/kamut-ancient-grain-or-modern-find/

You mean that the documentation is that Carson is at least partially right? You don't say? Oh...but don't let that get in the way of a little political jealousy hate on whoever is in front of our guy fest.

 

[jllundqu]

^This. The main reason people here hate on Carson is because he's ahead of Rand Paul in the primary. If Rand was at 20% and Ben was at 2 - 5% nobody would care and most would see him as a natural ally.

DOOD....... the campaign needs to take that snip and put it into a campaign video....

 

[jmdrake]

I still cant believe his favorability ratings are so high when he's stabbed somebody and has changed the story of how it happened at least 3 times.

Ummm...he didn't stab anyone. He attempted to stab someone. It's part of his personal biography from years ago and nobody has thought negatively about it until now and the negativity seems 100% politically motivated. Up until 2015 everyone who's ever heard the story, and his book Gifted Hands[/i] is a national best seller, has taken the "Isn't this a wonderful story of a life transformed from inner city violent young black man to renowned pediatric neurosurgeon" position on the story. Really, I'm surprised at your surprise. This ain't the "Ron Paul newsletters" Ron had to distance himself from. This is Carson's personal narrative that he has long embraced. You want to drive his negatives up, talk about his flip flop on gun control. Why is nobody going after him on that?

 

[ds21089]

Ummm...he didn't stab anyone. He attempted to stab someone. It's part of his personal biography from years ago and nobody has thought negatively about it until now and the negativity seems 100% politically motivated. Up until 2015 everyone who's ever heard the story, and his book Gifted Hands[/i] is a national best seller, has taken the "Isn't this a wonderful story of a life transformed from inner city violent young black man to renowned pediatric neurosurgeon" position on the story. Really, I'm surprised at your surprise. This ain't the "Ron Paul newsletters" Ron had to distance himself from. This is Carson's personal narrative that he has long embraced. You want to drive his negatives up, talk about his flip flop on gun control. Why is nobody going after him on that?

Fair point. I only brought up the story of the stabbing because I saw an article that showed a Trump tweet about it and was wondering if he was gonna hit Carson on it at the debate. I do agree, the gun control issue should be thrown in his face. That should (hopefully) hurt his support a bit.

 

[Jan2017]

Surprise! Egyptologists Say Ben Carson Has No Idea What He's Talking About

World-famous pediatric neurosurgeon and Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson may be a leading authority on the separation of conjoined twins, but after doubling down on comments he made 17 years ago asserting that the Egyptian pyramids were constructed to store grain, Egyptologists want him to leave the speculation to the experts.

"The pyramids in Egypt were not created to store grain, nor were they ever used to store grain, as far as we know," Laurel D. Bestock, an assistant professor of archaeology and Egyptology at Brown University, told Mic through laughter. "They could not be used to store grain. While the structures themselves are very large, they're also basically solid. The amount of empty space inside the pyramid is very small. It's appropriate for a king's burial, which is what was there, but not even a ton of stuff could be put inside a pyramid. There are a couple of small rooms and passageways. You cannot store grain in large quantities in the space available."

http://news.yahoo.com/surprise-egyptologists-ben-carson-no-184627426.html
(yahoo news I'll acknowledge, but take note that the first link to display in a simple google search)

 

[jkob]

Any why do you think the great pyramid was built? Are you one of those stupid idiots like on morning Joe that thinks it was a tomb?

It wasn't as a grain silo and it wasn't built by Joseph to withstand a '7 year famine' or whatever, even if there was evidence of the pyramids were hollow and could store grain which they're not it would make zero sense to spend 20+ years and thousands of lives to build for a famine decades in the future. It is just a dumb idea,a I am more open to the aliens dude. As for it being a tomb to a leader? Who else would have the hubris and access to manpower and wealth to do it? Occam's razor.

I'm kind of interested in what Ben Carson's theories about dinosaurs are now...

 

[jmdrake]

Fair point. I only brought up the story of the stabbing because I saw an article that showed a Trump tweet about it and was wondering if he was gonna hit Carson on it at the debate. I do agree, the gun control issue should be thrown in his face. That should (hopefully) hurt his support a bit.

I heard about that. Trump is a schoolyard bully. Rand once pointed that out in a debate. Rand should let Trump be Trump. Trump took out Jeb Bush. (Jeb is a political dead man walking). If Trump takes on Carson and Rand stays out of the fray that's good for us. People can get disillusioned with Carson, be pissed at Trump at the same time, and need some other anti-establishment candidate to turn to. Rand should hit each of them on where there are bad on policy, Carson on the gun control flip flop and Trump on taxes and imminent domain.

 

[sparebulb]

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My suggestion for Rand would be to do the old Reagan "there you go again, Ben, sticking up for a bloated government spending project that was sold to the people for being for the public good, when in reality, it was simply an egotistic monument for the ruling elite."

That would be a good zinger at the "debates".

 

[JK/SEA]

'if you give a man enough rope, he will eventually hang himself'...so..sit back..make some popcorn, and enjoy the show.

 

[jmdrake]

Surprise! Egyptologists Say Ben Carson Has No Idea What He's Talking About


http://news.yahoo.com/surprise-egyptologists-ben-carson-no-184627426.html
(yahoo news I'll acknowledge, but take note that the first link to display in a simple google search)

And supposedly all "climatologists" agree with Al Gore. Do you? Any Egyptologist that thinks that all of the pyramids were tombs should have his credentials stripped. The great pyramid of Giza was most certainly not a tomb. Again, no hieroglyphs.

 

[limequat]

The hubris is incredible.

"Egyptologists want him to leave the speculation to the experts.

"The pyramids in Egypt were not created to store grain, nor were they ever used to store grain, as far as we know," Laurel D. Bestock, an assistant professor of archaeology and Egyptology at Brown University, told Mic through laughter. "

jmdrake is right. This type of argument is the exact same thing we got about climate change. Us peons are not allowed question the experts or even form our own theories.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Surprise! Egyptologists Say Ben Carson Has No Idea What He's Talking About


http://news.yahoo.com/surprise-egyptologists-ben-carson-no-184627426.html
(yahoo news I'll acknowledge, but take note that the first link to display in a simple google search)

The pyramids in Egypt were not created to store grain, nor were they ever used to store grain, as far as we know," Laurel D. Bestock, an assistant professor of archaeology and Egyptology at Brown University, told Mic through laughter. "They could not be used to store grain. While the structures themselves are very large, they're also basically solid. The amount of empty space inside the pyramid is very small. It's appropriate for a king's burial, which is what was there, but not even a ton of stuff could be put inside a pyramid. There are a couple of small rooms and passageways. You cannot store grain in large quantities in the space available."

No, and no. once again egyptology reveals it doesnt know the history of egypt before it was egypt

 

[Jan2017]

I'm kind of interested in what Ben Carson's theories about dinosaurs are now...

I think he'll unfold as a not plausible candidate now.

Hope we get this question asked again . . . to clarify the candidates position at the Tuesday debate.
Maybe Huck won't be the only one hugging on to the book of Genesis so tight again.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

The hubris is incredible.

"Egyptologists want him to leave the speculation to the experts.

"The pyramids in Egypt were not created to store grain, nor were they ever used to store grain, as far as we know," Laurel D. Bestock, an assistant professor of archaeology and Egyptology at Brown University, told Mic through laughter. "

jmdrake is right. This type of argument is the exact same thing we got about climate change. Us peons are not allowed question the experts or even form our own theories.

ever see that video of hawi zahiris (sp?) egypt's top guy on history freak out over guys like robert bauval or graham hancock? I posted them awhile back... truly no different than people questioning Bush on WMDs in Iraq