Ben Carson Thinks Joseph Built the Pyramids.... WTF?

[Brian4Liberty]

It's all about evolution. Eventually, there will only be Brawndo...

 

[devil21]

Now people are starting to catch on....

 

[jonhowe]

And he didn't win. You're proving jllundqu's point!



EDIT: Everyone here knows/agrees the Hebrews were never enslaved in Egypt, right? It's literally made up.

 

[erowe1]

The eye at the top.

 

[erowe1]

EDIT: Everyone here knows/agrees the Hebrews were never enslaved in Egypt, right? It's literally made up.

Why do you believe that?

 

[hells_unicorn]

Why do you believe that?

Because the blowup doll of Richard Dawkins that he sleeps with every night tells him so. If you actually parse what these modern "materialists" think, it's about as ridiculous as what Carson said about the pyramids.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Not a fan of Carson but did not expect to see such headlines on a pro Obama media outlet.

Mainstream media finally begins referring to Ben Carson as mentally ill

Last week I wrote an op-ed piece pointing out what most Americans have been quietly thinking: Ben Carson is almost certainly suffering from a mental illness in a way which goes beyond mere politics or left vs right battles. The article was largely well received, with a some of his conservative supporters being predictably unhappy. But there were a few liberals who pushed back as well. The gist of their counter argument: “Sure we all know he’s crazy, but you don’t see other new outlets talking about him like that.” And I understood their point. But as I glance around at the latest Ben Carson headlines today, what a difference a week makes.

This week major mainstream news outlets are running headlines calling Ben Carson everything from “crazy” to “disturbed” to “crackpot” to “lost his mind.” While a few are being flippant, most of them are taking the same stance that I did: this is a once-brilliant man who has dissolved into the kind of mental incompetence that you’d normally get from a guy on a street corner, not from a guy who’s in second place in his party’s race for President.

Ben Carson admits he made up the names of the people he supposedly attacked violently

Just hours after several people from Ben Carson’s past confirmed that none of his claims about his own youth are true, Carson is responding by changing his story and admitting he made up the names of the people he claims to have attacked violently. The Presidential candidate got into hot water when he claimed to have committed several acts of violence in his youth, which sent researchers digging into his past and researching his life. It turns out none of his claims could be verified by anyone who knew him. And now we know why his supposed victims can’t be found: he’s finally admitting they don’t exist.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion...eferring-to-ben-carson-as-mentally-ill/22808/

 

[juleswin]

Because the blowup doll of Richard Dawkins that he sleeps with every night tells him so. If you actually parse what these modern "materialists" think, it's about as ridiculous as what Carson said about the pyramids.

Maybe its because it is written in a book filled with fairy tale believes and there is no historical evidence that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt except for assertions from the bible itself. Richard Dawkins be damned but I don't believe anything from the bible for which the only evidence or historical reference comes from the bible itself.

 

[juleswin]

Not a fan of Carson but did not expect to see such headlines on a pro Obama media outlet.

Mainstream media finally begins referring to Ben Carson as mentally ill

By Bill Palmer | October 13, 2015

Last week I wrote an op-ed piece pointing out what most Americans have been quietly thinking: Ben Carson is almost certainly suffering from a mental illness in a way which goes beyond mere politics or left vs right battles. The article was largely well received, with a some of his conservative supporters being predictably unhappy. But there were a few liberals who pushed back as well. The gist of their counter argument: “Sure we all know he’s crazy, but you don’t see other new outlets talking about him like that.” And I understood their point. But as I glance around at the latest Ben Carson headlines today, what a difference a week makes.


This week major mainstream news outlets are running headlines calling Ben Carson everything from “crazy” to “disturbed” to “crackpot” to “lost his mind.” While a few are being flippant, most of them are taking the same stance that I did: this is a once-brilliant man who has dissolved into the kind of mental incompetence that you’d normally get from a guy on a street corner, not from a guy who’s in second place in his party’s race for President.

Ben Carson admits he made up the names of the people he supposedly attacked violently

Just hours after several people from Ben Carson’s past confirmed that none of his claims about his own youth are true, Carson is responding by changing his story and admitting he made up the names of the people he claims to have attacked violently. The Presidential candidate got into hot water when he claimed to have committed several acts of violence in his youth, which sent researchers digging into his past and researching his life. It turns out none of his claims could be verified by anyone who knew him. And now we know why his supposed victims can’t be found: he’s finally admitting they don’t exist.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion...eferring-to-ben-carson-as-mentally-ill/22808/

Nobody lies all the time even the devil and some "good" guys can find themselves in a bigger hole trying to tunnel themselves out of a small lie. So try not to shot the messages just because you are displeased with the message.

 

[jonhowe]

Because the blowup doll of Richard Dawkins that he sleeps with every night tells him so. If you actually parse what these modern "materialists" think, it's about as ridiculous as what Carson said about the pyramids.

Not blowup, it's plush.

Why do you believe that?

Why do you believe they were there? Other than your anthology of mythological stories from the middle east?

My ancestors' mythology teaches me there is a city filled with gods on top of Mt Olympus. Let's go see if we can find it, eh?

 

[erowe1]

Why do you believe they were there? Other than your anthology of mythological stories from the middle east?

Why would you exclude evidence like that when studying history? Does the fact that Christians regard an ancient book as scripture mean that nothing that book mentions ever happened? If only nobody believed 1 Kings were inspired by God, then it would be of some use to historians, but since some people do, now it can't be? You made a positive claim that the Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt. You didn't say that it's uncertain whether they were or not, but that they certainly weren't. Do you have no reason behind that assertion at all?

As a matter of fact, the documents that Christians today count as the Old Testament do contain important evidence for this historicity of the Hebrews' enslavement in Egypt. Archaeology and Egyptian records corroborate this. Of course, those Egyptian records were also written by people who believed in gods you don't believe in, just like every other premodern text that we have.

My ancestors' mythology teaches me there is a city filled with gods on top of Mt Olympus. Let's go see if we can find it, eh?

The very same mythology that talks about the gods on Mt. Olympus also talks about lots of things that human beings did in actual places and times in this world, many of which most historians believe to be historical. Do you rule them all out too just because an ancient text that mentions them also mentions gods that you don't believe in?

 

[jonhowe]

Why would you exclude evidence like that when studying history? Did nothing the Bible talks about really happen? You made a positive claim that the Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt. You didn't say that it's uncertain whether they were or not, but that they certainly weren't. Do you have no reason behind that assertion at all?



The very same mythology that talks about the gods on Mt. Olympus also talks about lots of things that human beings did in actual places and times in this world, many of which most historians believe to be historical. Do you rule them all out too just because an ancient text that mentions them also mentions gods that you don't believe in?

No. I rule out the clearly supernatural ones, as well as the ones unsupported by actual evidence. Like the Jews in egypt. Or Medusa.

There probably was a Trojan war. There certainly was not a giant cyclops that ate people. Just as the entire Hebrew race of was almost certainly not enslaved in Egypt.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

 

[erowe1]

No. I rule out the clearly supernatural ones, as well as the ones unsupported by actual evidence. Like the Jews in egypt. Or Medusa.

There probably was a Trojan war. There certainly was not a giant cyclops that ate people. Just as the entire Hebrew race of was almost certainly not enslaved in Egypt.

Being slaves in Egypt isn't clearly supernatural. If you believe it isn't supported by actual evidence, why is that?

Now it's "the entire Hebrew race"? That's not what you said before. Nobody, including the Bible, ever said that the entire Hebrew race was ever enslaved in Egypt.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Everyone here knows/agrees the Hebrews were never enslaved in Egypt, right? It's literally made up.

It's a common view among academics that Jews may have served as mercenaries for the Egyptian state during the Bronze Age.

From this, it's not hard to imagine how the biblical story may have evolved. Think Visigoths in the late Roman Empire.

 

[anaconda]

Stalin DID NOT build the pyramids. What is Ben Carson thinking?

 

[Crashland]

Well, if Joseph didn't build the pyramids, then who did? Aliens?

Stalin DID NOT build the pyramids. What is Ben Carson thinking?

Bernie Madoff built the pyramids.

 

[TheNewYorker]

Stalin DID NOT build the pyramids. What is Ben Carson thinking?

Of course not, he would have made them of steel, not huge bricks.

 

[robert9712000]

While Joseph may not have built the pyramids, there is a compelling documentary on Netflix that shows some pretty definitive evidence that the Jews were in Egypt and then Joseph was real. It even shows artifacts that support a Exodus. If you are into all history i think you will find the documentary "Patterns of evidence: Exodus" fascinating.

 

[erowe1]

While Joseph may not have built the pyramids, there is a compelling documentary on Netflix that shows some pretty definitive evidence that the Jews were in Egypt and then Joseph was real. It even shows artifacts that support a Exodus. If you are into all history i think you will find the documentary "Patterns of evidence: Exodus" fascinating.

Is that really on Netflix now? I've been wanting to see it since it came out in theaters awhile back.

ETA: Sure enough. I just checked and it's up there. Thanks for the tip.

@johnhowe, Before you spout off any more about a subject you've never studied, you might want to look into it. This documentary is a good place to start.