Ben Carson Thinks Joseph Built the Pyramids.... WTF?

You don't need carbon dating to prove the Earth is more than a few thousand years old. Some knowledge of thermodynamics and plate tectonics will suffice... and just some casual observations of the world around us.
 
Seems some folks don't understand that the rate of passage of time is not constant. It changes as the universe expands.
What looks like it took millions of years to take place may have only taken a single day when it happened.
 
Based on Stargate, Pyrmids are alien space ships or landing pads

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Dr.3D said:
Seems some folks don't understand that the rate of passage of time is not constant. It changes as the universe expands.
What looks like it took millions of years to take place may have only taken a single day when it happened.
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It's interesting how you can take inconclusive metaphysical theories to be true yet reject even the most basic science and mathematics
 
Influenza said:
It's interesting how you can take inconclusive metaphysical theories to be true yet reject even the most basic science and mathematics
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Here, listen to a physicist explain it.
Genesis and the Big Bang Theory Segment 1


Genesis and the Big Bang Theory Segment 2


Genesis and the Big Bang Theory Segment 3


Genesis and the Big Bang Theory Segment 4


Genesis and the Big Bang Theory Segment 5


Segment 5 really gets to the brass tacks of things.
 
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If you want to know what the "elite" religious beliefs are, go to yt and check out all of William Cooper's Mystery Babylon Hour of the Time series from the 90's. More than likely what is contained in those videos is what Carson actually subscribes to.
 
2 out of 3 of these pyramids aren't even hollow. The one that is only has a tiny section carved out inside for a burial chamber, relatively small compared to the immensity of the structure. The other two have burial chambers located beneath them, in the ground. It's unclear what benefit an immense stone pyramid has on the effectiveness of an underground grain storage facility.
 
Dr.3D said:
Here, listen to a physicist explain it.
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So the first day was 8 billion years, the second day 4 billion years, the third 2 billion, the fourth 1 billion, and so on. The earth, complete with vegetation and fruit-bearing trees was created in that 2 billion year time-frame of the third day, before the sun shining upon the earth had been created on the fourth. Does that make sense?

Anyways, the purpose of his lecture was not to say the universe is 6000 years old. It stated that the universe, from our perspective is in fact just less than 14 billion years old (the math of his video was off by a couple billion years,) and that by 6 days, the Bible was actually referring to billions of years. He says that from the perspective of the point at which the Big Bang occurred until the time of Adam, 6 days had elapsed. This is due to the expansion of the universe.

Which makes statements like this:

What looks like it took millions of years to take place may have only taken a single day when it happened
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completely incorrect and shows a misunderstanding of the concepts presented in the videos. The events that happened on this earth such as geological formation and extinction/evolution of plants and animals, did take millions and millions of years, from our perspective. From the perspective of the point from which the big bang occurred, the "7th day" is taking place.
 
Influenza said:
So the first day was 8 billion years, the second day 4 billion years, the third 2 billion, the fourth 1 billion, and so on. The earth, complete with vegetation and fruit-bearing trees was created in that 2 billion year time-frame of the third day, before the sun shining upon the earth had been created on the fourth. Does that make sense?

Anyways, the purpose of his lecture was not to say the universe is 6000 years old. It stated that the universe, from our perspective is in fact just less than 14 billion years old (the math of his video was off by a couple billion years,) and that by 6 days, the Bible was actually referring to billions of years. He says that from the perspective of the point at which the Big Bang occurred until the time of Adam, 6 days had elapsed. This is due to the expansion of the universe.

Which makes statements like this:



completely incorrect and shows a misunderstanding of the concepts presented in the videos. The events that happened on this earth such as geological formation and extinction/evolution of plants and animals, did take millions and millions of years, from our perspective. From the perspective of the point from which the big bang occurred, the "7th day" is taking place.
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Look, I know a thing or two about physics, and the truth is, this is all very fuzzy. We don't even really understand how gravity works on a large scale. Many scientists have concocted bizarre theories about the universe being made up 99% of unobservable "dark matter" (no evidence) in order to explain why their models fail to accurately describe galaxy rotations. We've also observed that the expansion of the universe appears to be accelerating, leading scientists to throw another random variable into the mix: "dark energy". No one knows what it is, it's just something we throw into the mix to explain away these observations that don't fit into our understanding of the universe.

Our current level of science is really immature, we really don't have a consistent understanding of the world around us. Our laws of gravity are flawed. Quantum mechanics is all just bookkeeping, no one really understands what's actually going on. Particle physics isn't predictive (theory follows observation rather than the other way around). Condensed Matter Theory is basically engineering with unknowns.

My point is, that scientists say the universe is 14 billion years old, but expect that to change. It's probably going to change a LOT, if the entire paradigm doesn't shift away from Big Bang theory entirely
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
Look, I know a thing or two about physics, and the truth is, this is all very fuzzy. We don't even really understand how gravity works on a large scale. Many scientists have concocted bizarre theories about the universe being made up 99% of unobservable "dark matter" (no evidence) in order to explain why their models fail to accurately describe galaxy rotations. We've also observed that the expansion of the universe appears to be accelerating, leading scientists to throw another random variable into the mix: "dark energy". No one knows what it is, it's just something we throw into the mix to explain away these observations that don't fit into our understanding of the universe.

Our current level of science is really immature, we really don't have a consistent understanding of the world around us. Our laws of gravity are flawed. Quantum mechanics is all just bookkeeping, no one really understands what's actually going on. Particle physics isn't predictive (theory follows observation rather than the other way around). Condensed Matter Theory is basically engineering with unknowns.

My point is, that scientists say the universe is 14 billion years old, but expect that to change. It's probably going to change a LOT, if the entire paradigm doesn't shift away from Big Bang theory entirely
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What developments are you anticipating?

What to replace the BBT?

...disclaimer: I know essentially nothing of physics, so stick figures and puppets would be appreciated
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
Look, I know a thing or two about physics, and the truth is, this is all very fuzzy. We don't even really understand how gravity works on a large scale. Many scientists have concocted bizarre theories about the universe being made up 99% of unobservable "dark matter" (no evidence) in order to explain why their models fail to accurately describe galaxy rotations. We've also observed that the expansion of the universe appears to be accelerating, leading scientists to throw another random variable into the mix: "dark energy". No one knows what it is, it's just something we throw into the mix to explain away these observations that don't fit into our understanding of the universe.

Our current level of science is really immature, we really don't have a consistent understanding of the world around us. Our laws of gravity are flawed. Quantum mechanics is all just bookkeeping, no one really understands what's actually going on. Particle physics isn't predictive (theory follows observation rather than the other way around). Condensed Matter Theory is basically engineering with unknowns.

My point is, that scientists say the universe is 14 billion years old, but expect that to change. It's probably going to change a LOT, if the entire paradigm doesn't shift away from Big Bang theory entirely
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I don't claim to know how the universe works and exactly how old it is. It's not something that can be known with 100% certainty. Dr.3D simply made a statement and attempted to support it with a series of videos that did not support his beliefs, which I explained. However, my sensibilities tell me that the earth, and thus the universe, is much older than a few thousand years. May God strike me dead if scientists shift their estimate of the universe's age down to thousands of years.
 
r3volution 3.0 said:
What developments are you anticipating?

What to replace the BBT?

...disclaimer: I know essentially nothing of physics, so stick figures and puppets would be appreciated
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I don't know, how could I? But remember how back before Einstein, physicists believed everything in the universe traveled with respect to a fixed reference frame. The "luminiferous ether" that carried the transmission of light waves through seemingly empty space. Scientists had all sorts of theories and models for how the Earth moved through the Ether as it revolved around the Sun.

After the famous Michelson-Morley experiment which demonstrated that light travels roughly the same speed in any direction, scientists had to explain why the Ether seemed to be fixed on Earth, even while it was rotating the sun. All sorts of bizarre theories and rationalizations were constructed to explain this. The Ether "clung" to the Earth somehow, or maybe the Earth made eddies in the Ether, or maybe the Earth was producing the Ether.

Suddenly Einstein came along, and shattered our perception of reality entirely. He said, there IS NO ETHER!!! Everything is relative, there is no fixed background reference frame. There is no universal yardstick. Light can travel in a vacuum without a medium. All of a sudden, space and time became interchangeable concepts, as did mass and energy. Our entire paradigm shifted drastically, the precise geometric Newtonian worldview was replaced.

That same kind of world shattering discovery is on the cusp of happening in Astrophysics right now. We have all sorts of crazy theories about 99% of the universe made of unobservable particles, or there is some mysterious force being generated to accelerate galaxies apart. Or maybe it's other dimensions inflicting on our own. Or maybe it's string theory....no one knows. Scientists are treading water with all these crazy ideas, just waiting for a spectacular insight that will change everything.
 
Grain.. I doubt it.. I also doubt the Egyptian pyramids were built by the Egyptians. But at least Carson isnt swallowing the tired old line of tombs
 
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