BlackTerrel
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I don't think you are bonkers. But you have absolutely no understanding of the American judicial system or Florida Law in particular. We do not conditionally arrest people because we think it is possible at some future time we may have reason to believe they commit a crime. That is the way Authoritarian States without rule of law operate. The only way, I repeat, the only way the police could have arrested Zimmerman is if after their initial investigation, they had probable cause to believe he had committed a crime.
How could there not be? He shot an unarmed man? Is that not probable cause?
Now, let's look at the facts and the law before us. We seem to have indisputable evidence that a fight occurred. Zimmerman, the only eyewitness to the shooting, says Martin started the fight. The only witness who saw any part of what happened that evening reports Martin on top of Zimmerman pummeling him. Zimmerman has wounds consistent with being beaten on the front and stains consistent with being on his back. Zimmerman is the one who called the police in the first place and has been neighborhood watching quite avidly without ever attacking anyone before. If Zimmerman's account of the incident struck them as reasonable, and there was no physical evidence or witness testimony to contradict it, then there is no justification to arrest Zimmerman as under Florida Law defining justifiable killings, there was no crime.
I have no problem with you saying, let's continue to investigate this case to see if any evidence pops up that suggests a crime. That is completely fair and reasonable. But to suggest that Zimmerman should be arrested on the basis of some future evidence that may or may not be forthcoming is an affront to the very essence of our legal system.
Ok you understand the law better than me. Explain to me how this works:
1. Let's say Zimmerman started the fight. Trayvon happened to be a better fighter and seized the upperhand. Is Zimmerman legally allowed to shoot him and claim self defense.
2. Let's even go further. Say Trayvon started the fight. Is Zimmerman allowed to shoot an unarmed man over a fistfight?
Here's the thing: I've been in many fist fights in my life. More so in my youth when I was hyperactive and dumb. In none of the fights did anyone sustain injury that didn't heal in 30 days and in none of the fights were police involved. Are you saying that if during the fistfight I was involved in whoever I was fighting could have used a gun to shoot and kill me and that would have been acceptable since we were in a fight?
This is mind boggling to me. The ONLY defense of Zimmerman (if true) is that he was losing a fistfight? Is that justification to shoot and kill an unarmed man?
You tell me - you seem to know the law better than I do.