"Wikileaks are terrorists - we need to take them out!"

It will be fun to see how long Assange can stick around before a sudden car crash or imprisonment.
 
Or heart attack, or "random mugging", or something similar :(

But he's got them by the balls, doesn't he? If anything happens to him, the decryption key will go out. I bet the insurance document has something extremely damaging on it, possibly about 9/11, or something conspiracy theorists haven't even thought of yet. And besides, he's a key member, but he's not the be all end all. Wikileaks can probably survive without him.
 
But he's got them by the balls, doesn't he? If anything happens to him, the decryption key will go out. I bet the insurance document has something extremely damaging on it, possibly about 9/11, or something conspiracy theorists haven't even thought of yet. And besides, he's a key member, but he's not the be all end all. Wikileaks can probably survive without him.
What are you referring to? :confused:
 
Honestly there really isn't anything that damning that has been released. It's just showing the non-public dirty scene that is international politics.
 
Honestly there really isn't anything that damning that has been released. It's just showing the non-public dirty scene that is international politics.

qft. The big hub-ub about is rather silly, but the upside is that it brings attention to the criminal nature of the Regime.
 

That's exactly what it is. And given the utterly criminal nature of the government, you can bet they have a huge list of things that would be devastating to them if released. They won't have the guts to assassinate him. Of course there's a possibility he's bluffing. He might have nothing at all and the file is full of lolcats, but given the things the gpvernment wants to keep quiet, they can't take that chance.
 
That's exactly what it is. And given the utterly criminal nature of the government, you can bet they have a huge list of things that would be devastating to them if released. They won't have the guts to assassinate him. Of course there's a possibility he's bluffing. He might have nothing at all and the file is full of lolcats, but given the things the gpvernment wants to keep quiet, they can't take that chance.

If Wikileaks has something devastating why wouldn't they release it anyway, especially if it would be a bombshell relating to 9/11 or something equivalent? The insurance file is probably nothing surprising: The original leaked US documents without the redaction of names. I'd bet money on it that it's something along those lines.
 
My question is whether or not the NSA has decrypted the "insurance file" yet or not? :confused:

the encryption used on it is not conceptually impossible to crack, it is physically impossible (as in the amount of computing time necessary to crack it makes it unreasonable to possibly crack in a lifetime).
 
My question is whether or not the NSA has decrypted the "insurance file" yet or not? :confused:

Possibly, but if so it begs the question as to why Wikileaks guy is still alive. Either it's so immensely damaging they can't afford to have it released and are forced to allow him to continue publishing petty international gossip, or they haven't cracked it yet. Given the quality of the NSA hackers, supercomputers and code breakers, I'm actually more inclined to go with the former.
 
the encryption used on it is not conceptually impossible to crack, it is physically impossible (as in the amount of computing time necessary to crack it makes it unreasonable to possibly crack in a lifetime).
I don't believe that. If there is a lock, there is a key. And if there is a key there is a way to hack it. If not by brute force, but by other methods.

Not to mention that the NSA's capabilities are largely unknown.
 
I don't believe that. If there is a lock, there is a key. And if there is a key there is a way to hack it. If not by brute force, but by other methods.

Not always. See the lock Harry Houdini couldn't pick. The Cliff Notes version is this. Harry Houdini tried for hours to pick a lock that wasn't even locked. Someone could create a truly random noise file and the NSA could try to decrypt it forever. They could never be 100% certain if the file contained noise, or if they just hadn't been able to decrypt it yet. Even brute force for 1 million years wouldn't necessarily "work" if the NSA didn't know the encryption algorithm.

Not to mention that the NSA's capabilities are largely unknown.

And the imagination of the worlds most clever encryptor is also an unknown. Partially because nobody knows who that is. ;)
 
[h1]Congress Lashes Out at Wikileaks, Senators Say Leakers May Have "Blood on their Hands"[/h1]

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20023964-503544.htmlhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20023964-503544.html

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.),
chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, called the leak "nothing less than an attack on the national security of the United States."
"By disseminating these materials, Wikileaks is putting at risk the lives and the freedom of countless Americans and non-Americans around the world," he said in a statement. "It is an outrageous, reckless, and despicable action that will undermine the ability of our government and our partners to keep our people safe and to work together to defend our vital interests. Let there be no doubt: the individuals responsible are going to have blood on their hands."

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry (D-Mass.) called the release of more than 250,000 classified State Department documents a "reckless action which jeopardizes lives by exposing raw, contemporaneous intelligence."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/28/statement-press-secretary


The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
November 28, 2010


Statement by the Press Secretary
We anticipate the release of what are claimed to be several hundred thousand classified State department cables on Sunday night that detail private diplomatic discussions with foreign governments. By its very nature, field reporting to Washington is candid and often incomplete information. It is not an expression of policy, nor does it always shape final policy decisions. Nevertheless, these cables could compromise private discussions with foreign governments and opposition leaders, and when the substance of private conversations is printed on the front pages of newspapers across the world, it can deeply impact not only US foreign policy interests, but those of our allies and friends around the world. To be clear -- such disclosures put at risk our diplomats, intelligence professionals, and people around the world who come to the United States for assistance in promoting democracy and open government. These documents also may include named individuals who in many cases live and work under oppressive regimes and who are trying to create more open and free societies. President Obama supports responsible, accountable, and open government at home and around the world, but this reckless and dangerous action runs counter to that goal. By releasing stolen and classified documents, Wikileaks has put at risk not only the cause of human rights but also the lives and work of these individuals. We condemn in the strongest terms the unauthorized disclosure of classified documents and sensitive national security information.
YouTube - NIXON TAPES: Pentagon Papers (Henry Kissinger & John Mitchell)
 
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Or heart attack, or "random mugging", or something similar :(

I doubt it. Very little upside to that isn't it?

Let's say tomorrow Assange has a heart attack. Not saying real, not saying foul play. We don't know. But news comes out he has a heart attack.

Who benefits from that? Not the "wikileaks opponents" (for lack of a better term).

If anything they suffer more - more attention, more conspiracy theories etc...
 
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