Why isn't this moneybomb doing better?

[justatrey]

I just don't understand why we can only get 15,000 to donate when we have millions of supporters. The size of donations isn't as important as the # of donations.

I almost had to beg my coworker to get him to give $5 or $10, and I know for a fact that he makes a good $80k/year +. Hell, he spends like $10 on lunch every day. We spend more than $5 routinely on 2 gallons of gas. I would think 90% of supporters have $5 to spare, or they'd all be dropping dead left and right from starvation.

Sorry if I'm whining. I'm just really trying to understand what we're doing wrong. If we can get just 100,000 (which is still a very small % of supporters) we'd have massive money bombs.

 

[kylejack]

$800K is nothing to sneeze at. We're doing great, keep it up.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

Honestly we just have too many moneybombs.

Additionally, this one wasn't very well advertised. I'm on here all the time and I forgot about it until a few days ago

 

[Crickett]

I'm not going to poo poo at > 11,000 people shelling out > $600,000. Great success with limited promotion. Plus RevPac is bombing in 2 days. Plus theres a ton of big events simultaneously happening.

Me either. These bombs cost nothing and raise tons of money. We are doing FINE, and all the foreigners can donate to the PAC. We should get individual donors from all over the world!

 

[devil21]

They all can't be millions. I do think some of the older 2007/08 participants are jaded. How can you feel satisfied when you've seen a $6 million day? It'll work itself out. It's not like Paul supporters switch to Romney and donate to him.

 

[truthsaga]

I drove from San Jose for LPAC and tapped me to a smaller contribution this moneybomb, plus I have Revolution PAC in the back of my head. Will donate another 20 before I tap out.

 

[Paul4Prez]

800K+ is nothing to sneeze at. Ready Ames Fire was a modest total too, but the birthday bomb did very well the next month. Maybe the October bomb will show we still have it. Of course, donating before 9/30 would be better....

 

[Cabal]

Unfortunately RP supporters aren't the Fed, so we can't just print money to donate constantly. We generated a pretty good amount here--nothing to be ashamed of, and there's more where it came from. This is a win in my book.

 

[TheTexan]

Honestly we just have too many moneybombs.

Additionally, this one wasn't very well advertised. I'm on here all the time and I forgot about it until a few days ago

About three weeks ago I was looking for a money bomb to donate to and couldn't find one. Took quite a bit of digging, in fact thats how I joined this forum in the first place.

Fortunately googling "ron paul moneybomb" takes you to the right spot now, but 3 weeks ago it was all garbage. SEO please

 

[TexMac]

We need a clear page for pledges. This moneybomb had pages all over the place and 2 FB pages as well. That's confusing to people and it doesn't have the impact of a pledge counter.

 

[Ex Post Facto]

I'm broke. In 2008 I was chalk full of cash. Today, I am jobless, and my saving is drained. Yay freedom in the land of poor, low paying jobs and increasingly rising prices. Yay free markets. Yay rich tilting laws in their favor destroying the middle class. Yay corruption in Washington. The only way I manage to get by is through government handouts something most Ron Paul supporters would stone me for. So stone me unless you want to be charitable. Didn't think so. Charity is easier said then done when many of us have nothing left to give. So Ron Paul gets no money from me this year. Wish things were different.

 

[Monique]

Unless I am seriously mistaken, the average amount donated today was about the same as the one where we got $6 million dollars. The difference is the number of people that donate. On this site all I see are that people are split all over the place working on different things. We only had one money bomb at a time last time and had no plans for future ones, so we ALL worked together on each one.

This time, I see people saying they are working on this money bomb or that one...For this one, people made suggestions and were told to get lost. I know. I was one of those people, so...I got lost. So did a lot of others.

For a long time, this moneybomb was promoted as an end of quarter push and the date on facebook was 2 weeks long. People had no idea what day they were supposed to donate.

It isn't about the economy. It is about organization, and help. I don't know if traffic is down on this site, but it sure feels like it. I remember when threads were gone off the front page in a matter of seconds. I also see people talking about food recipes on the chat room rather than doing anything to help Ron. Not making any judgments, but it seems to me that is taking focus from the hard work.

I think we need to really work together to make the Black this Out moneybomb THE BIG ONE. We need one million people to donate, not 10,000. We need to ALL work on that moneybomb and that one only. If others are working on one in November, then we won't be able to do what needs to be done.

We need thread after thread about how to get more people to pledge to donate. We need to have folks share ideas about where they are posting this moneybomb and how effective their strategy is. When I work 9 hours straight and send out as many messages as I can on Facebook, I see around 60 or so click attend each day. When I take a day off, I see two or three added to the total.

However, I can't do this alone. One person getting 60 people a day is not very effective. One thousand people getting 60 people a day is. How about we just try to get one hundred people all working to get 60 people a day to join up?

If we don't get Ron a ton of money and very soon, he might be out of funds and the race by November. If we can really work hard to make a difference on the BTO bomb, we might get others to join in the help.

And one last thing...I know I will get blasted to hell for this...but this forum needs focus. I have seen so many people run off of this place because of the things in Hot Topics, or things that get sent to Hot topics. We need to be attracting people to this site so we can get workers. And the bashing each other, or anything, or any group has to stop. We are being destroyed by it. I don't like to be here because people seem like it is ok to attack people and they love to attack me for saying what needs to be said. Well, I am human and I don't like to sit here with my heart pounding, filled with feelings of dread. Being told I should just leave if I don't like the way it is. If we can't speak up and say what needs to be said, we have no chance.

 

[Monique]

P.S. We will never do very well if people are satisfied with 800k. We need to be PISSED about that! We need to get passionate and DO SOMETHING!!! 800k? That is what someone like Huckabee draws in Not RON PAUL!! WE don't accept piddling little figures like that!! We get mad and we get to work!!!! Forget that!! Let's all work TOGETHER on one money bomb and one only!!! Black This Out...October 19th! If you are broke this year, then just work harder to find more friends to donate. And you need to be very scared, because Ron can't possibly win unless we get him a lot more money.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

1.advertising
2.unemployment rate is worse compared to 2007's campaign
3.people spent a lot on vacation and back to school materials or school tuitions
4.moneybombs are more frequent than they were in 2007

 

[angelatc]

If people put donating to the RevPac over the campaign, we might as well hang it all up.

I don't disagree. But while I don't think that will happen, if it does - it means there's a problem with the campaign. But they are doing all the things we wanted them to do last time, and the Iowa finish shows that it's working.

Half of me wants to say that I think the money bombs are turning out to be a bad idea for the campaign. The grassroots did them better with them when the donors were motivated by something in the news cycle. But the other half of me sees them raising a lot of money today, which certainly doesn't seem to support that assessment.

 

[Cabal]

I think the major difference is spontaneous, unplanned moneybombs vs. month-to-month planned in advance moneybombs. There's also the inclusion of the SuperPAC moneybombs to consider. And like it or not, we've been dealing with another 4 years of recession since the last campaign which certainly doesn't help many of us.

In any case, I think the lack of spontaneity may potentially take away from some of the effectiveness. I could be wrong, but there seems to be a greater sense of urgency and motivation when the moneybombs are just out of the blue. Everyone's efforts are all concentrated in a very short window of time, instead of being spread thin almost a month in advance--urgency declines, people forget, procrastination, etc. In theory more time should mean more donations, but is this the case?

How many total donators were that for a moneybomb from a previous campaign in comparison to this one?

 

[anaconda]

Imagine if the 500,000 Facebook likes each gave $10 per month...

 

[angelatc]

Me either. These bombs cost nothing and raise tons of money. We are doing FINE, and all the foreigners can donate to the PAC. We should get individual donors from all over the world!

No, foreigners cannot donate to the PAC.

 

[Cabal]

I suppose the main question we need to answer is do we prefer less frequent 'burst' moneybombs, or more frequent sustained moneybombs. And more importantly, aside from potential media recognition, does choosing one method or the other affect the bottom line, or does the net income remain fairly identical?

 

[Jake Ralston]

I'm sorry but a measley 15,000 donators is pathetic. I'm still pissed about that right now.

Guess it brings about the age-old question, do Americans deserve Ron Paul?